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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10766 Gender:	Mass Psychosis = Mentacide = Killing of the Mind Sep 12^th, 2021 at 2:10am I can't get this educational video to post here so I'm posting just the URL .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4M We need to break free of those who feed us dilutions before we go completely mad. The video provides a solution
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Re: Mass Psychosis = Mentacide = Killing of the Mind
Reply #1 - Sep 12^th, 2021 at 6:27am

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2021 at 2:10am:

I can't get this educational video to post here so I'm posting just the URL ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4M

We need to break free of those who feed us dilutions before we go completely mad. The video provides a solution

Could you give us a precis of this in your own words please?

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Reply #2 - Sep 12^th, 2021 at 9:02am

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2021 at 2:10am:

I can't get this educational video to post here so I'm posting just the URL ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4M

We need to break free of those who feed us dilutions before we go completely mad. The video provides a solution

A solution that ignores our genetic disposition to collective delusions of religion, ideology, nationalism - - - - - - - -. The only clear elucidation of the problem that’s about to remove our species from the planet is outlined in Arthur Koester’s “The Ghost in The Machine”.

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Reply #3 - Sep 12^th, 2021 at 12:01pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12^th, 2021 at 6:27am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2021 at 2:10am:

I can't get this educational video to post here so I'm posting just the URL ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4M

We need to break free of those who feed us dilutions before we go completely mad. The video provides a solution

Could you give us a precis of this in your own words please?

I just did - albeit briefly

But perhaps you are one of those who feels no pain from being driven mad.

The mind has a natural way of dealing with overbearing oppression. It departs from reality and starts producing it's own dilutions and goes into a dream like state then becomes conditioned to it, making it even more vulnerable to what was making us mad in the first place

It takes a strong person to ward off this "dilutional dream like" state, and to get back to the reality of their independent mind, still within the "collective" if you like, but dealing with your own mind is a personal task. However, if you are surrounded by people who think of nothing else but the "collective", then that personal task is made much more difficult, and you're likely to be viewed as an alien rebel if you even try it

To gain strength, the "alien rebels" need to join forces and resist the oppressors. The oppressors being those who continually behave in a way that says you are "below" them, and not of equal "mind" to them

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Reply #4 - Sep 12^th, 2021 at 2:37pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Sep 12^th, 2021 at 9:02am:

A solution that ignores our genetic disposition to collective delusions of religion, ideology, nationalism

We don't want them "rammed down our throats" - isn't that how we think about them? Might be best if we maintain that attitude

A problem arises when leaders of those groups become oppressive to the rest of society. In the past we've been able to deal with them (in Australia) by simply dismissing their views without worrying about adverse consequences. But now, that's not the case .... violence can and does ensue from those groups. Violence then ensures more laws for the collective, and more laws for the collective means more oppression inflicted upon the collective ... but the laws are only a deterrent and the tendency to be violent is not dealt with in a psychological sense. So what do we do now?, we just dismiss the violence as being part of everyday life, which only adds to the mass psychosis

Ayn Marx wrote on Sep 12^th, 2021 at 9:02am:

The only clear elucidation of the problem that’s about to remove our species from the planet is outlined in Arthur Koester’s “The Ghost in The Machine”.

I read an overview, it's interesting, I'm taken in by this bit ....

" ..... For humans, those tendencies lead to an error in development: we create collective units that are based on the oppression of some individuals and on the inflated egos of others. ....."

Note the term: "error in development" ... He's on the ball this guy

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Reply #5 - Sep 12^th, 2021 at 6:55pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2021 at 2:10am:

I can't get this educational video to post here so I'm posting just the URL ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4M

We need to break free of those who feed us dilutions before we go completely mad. The video provides a solution

Bias,

I watched it all, 22 min of it.

It makes a lot of sense.

But in the world, in 2021, imo, the 'mass psychosis' psyche is winning, and the moral/rational individual is losing [and is continually being assailed].

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Jesus explicitly warned his followers to reject a hierarchical system [of power].

The hierarchical political system....is the way of the world. [....and of all christian churches ?!! ]

The hierarchical political system....is , i believe, what our own [individual] psyche 'seeks', in order to surrender to it [....as per the theme of, the source of our mental sickness and un-soundness, in the YT]. ???

Matthew 20:25
But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.
26 But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
27 And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:

Matthew 7:12
.....whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

The world [this world] is a [psychic] distraction to us, imo.

Its 'attractions' take us far away from a meditative mind.

The world [this world] overcomes us, and defeats us.....it will defeat us ! .....if we allow it to do that !

1 John 2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

DO NOT BE DESTROYED [as an individual], BY THIS WORLD,
BY THE MONSTROUS AND EVIL HIERARCHICAL SYSTEMS OF THIS WORLD.

Ecclesiastes 12:13
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

Those who seek the mind of God [and do not follow men!], will find peace, ....AND NOT THE CONFUSION.

Because confusion and mental despair is the 'reward', for those who follow this world [and the direction of men].

Maybe you cannot believe that ?

Psalms 118:8
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
9 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.

Psalms 119:165
Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #6 - Sep 13^th, 2021 at 12:08am

Yadda wrote on Sep 12^th, 2021 at 6:55pm:

But in the world, in 2021, imo, the 'mass psychosis' psyche is winning, and the moral/rational individual is losing [and is continually being assailed].

You've stated the obvious there Yadda, it's what the topic is about, and, IMO we need to get down to specifics, not of religion, not of politics as such, but of the overbearing influence that unGodly institutions and organizations have over our politicians, and therefore upon us as well

But the politicians seem to be willing to follow the directives of undemocratic foreign chiefs, parallel to, and contrary to what many of us believe they should be doing ... being servants to all of their constituents, and without taking orders, happily or otherwise, from foreign hierarchies. "Foreign", in this case, can mean within a country and/or coming in from outside a country

The video provides a solution, and that is to purge our minds of the influences that drive the mass psychosis. In other words, adopt a mindset free of the unGodly and amoral influences that are driving many of us around the bend

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Reply #7 - Sep 13^th, 2021 at 8:41am

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 13^th, 2021 at 12:08am:

The video provides a solution, and that is to purge our minds of the influences that drive the mass psychosis. In other words, adopt a mindset free of the unGodly and amoral influences that are driving many of us around the bend

Are you suggesting that without religion we lose our way?

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Reply #8 - Sep 13^th, 2021 at 9:19am

Ayn Marx wrote on Sep 13^th, 2021 at 8:41am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 13^th, 2021 at 12:08am:

The video provides a solution, and that is to purge our minds of the influences that drive the mass psychosis.

In other words, adopt a mindset free of the unGodly and amoral influences that are driving many of us around the bend

Are you suggesting that without religion we lose our way?

Ayn Marx,

You seem to dislike or reject precepts for living if/because they are promoted 'in some old book'....

Ayn Marx,

As an atheist, what has religion got to do with anything !!?

Ayn Marx,

Do you believe that it would be beneficial to a society, if its individuals respected those, who have nurtured you [if they have indeed nurtured you] ?

Do you believe that it would be beneficial to a society, if its individuals did not murder [each other] ?

Do you believe that it would be beneficial to a society, if its individuals did not engage in adultery
[i.e. seek to cause another person to break a solemn covenant] ?

Do you believe that it would be beneficial to a society, if its individuals did not steal from each other ?

Do you believe that it would be beneficial to a society, if its individuals, tried to always be honest with each other ?

Do you believe that it would be beneficial to a society, if its individuals did not constantly envy [wish for], the possessions which another person has ?

Q.
If you do agree with the arguments which those precepts encourage, why shouldn't you respect those precepts....
FOR THE GOOD [in man] WHICH THEY ENCOURAGE ?

Exodus 20:12
Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
13 Thou shalt not kill.
14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15 Thou shalt not steal.
16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

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Reply #9 - Sep 13^th, 2021 at 10:39am

Yadda wrote on Sep 13^th, 2021 at 9:19am:

Ayn Marx wrote on Sep 13^th, 2021 at 8:41am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 13^th, 2021 at 12:08am:

The video provides a solution, and that is to purge our minds of the influences that drive the mass psychosis.

In other words, adopt a mindset free of the unGodly and amoral influences that are driving many of us around the bend

Are you suggesting that without religion we lose our way?

Ayn Marx,

You seem to dislike or reject precepts for living if/because they are promoted 'in some old book'....

Ayn Marx,

As an atheist, what has religion got to do with anything !!?

Ayn Marx,

Do you believe that it would be beneficial to a society, if its individuals respected those, who have nurtured you [if they have indeed nurtured you] ?

Do you believe that it would be beneficial to a society, if its individuals did not murder [each other] ?

Do you believe that it would be beneficial to a society, if its individuals did not engage in adultery
[i.e. seek to cause another person to break a solemn covenant] ?

Do you believe that it would be beneficial to a society, if its individuals did not steal from each other ?

Do you believe that it would be beneficial to a society, if its individuals, tried to always be honest with each other ?

Do you believe that it would be beneficial to a society, if its individuals did not constantly envy [wish for], the possessions which another person has ?

Q.
If you do agree with the arguments which those precepts encourage, why shouldn't you respect those precepts....
FOR THE GOOD [in man] WHICH THEY ENCOURAGE ?

Exodus 20:12
Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
13 Thou shalt not kill.
14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15 Thou shalt not steal.
16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s.

You can throw chapter and verse at me until your imaginary hell freezes over. You should have learnt by now I’m more than familiar with the contents of your so called holy book. Do you actually imagine you’re teaching me something new ? You really have swallowed Acts: Ch.10 : V. 42, undigested.

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Reply #10 - Sep 13^th, 2021 at 9:18pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Sep 13^th, 2021 at 8:41am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 13^th, 2021 at 12:08am:

The video provides a solution, and that is to purge our minds of the influences that drive the mass psychosis. In other words, adopt a mindset free of the unGodly and amoral influences that are driving many of us around the bend

Are you suggesting that without religion we lose our way?

What made you mention religion?

Are you unwittingly steering the thread off on a tangent?

I'm agreeing with the solution in the video that we could free ourselves of foreign amoral and undemocratic influences by stepping back from them and not paying attention to them any longer, just place more importance on building our own psyches rather than letting outside influences build them for us

"Foreign influence" means anyone/group, or anything that is so overbearing on our psyches, that it prevents us from being autonomous within our own minds. It's happening subconsciously most of the time, so we have a bit of purging to do IMO

Here's another video, a shorter one, that could be viewed in conjunction with the one in the Opening Post. I wish I was thinking like this when I was much younger. I chased money, and I regret not doing more of things that I really loved doing and which appealed to me. I live a comfortable retirement, but my life before my retirement wasn't so comfortable, when I should have made it so. I messed up somewhat, and this video tells me what I should have done, instead of just chasing money

There are spots in the vid where you'll think you have to turn the volume up ... you don't have to, just let the vid roll along. Watch at least the first 3/4 of it

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Reply #12 - Sep 19^th, 2021 at 11:18am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12^th, 2021 at 6:27am:

Could you give us a precis of this in your own words please?

Agreed
It always amuses me when threads are created by just posting a 20 minute (or longer) youtube video and expecting everyone to watch it. And then they wonder why no one responds.

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2021 at 2:10am:

We need to break free of those who feed us dilutions before we go completely mad. The video provides a solution

The problem is that everybody thinks that it's everyone else who is suffering the mass psychosis.

I'm quite convinced that yadda, Bias (and half the members on this forum) suffer from a conspiracy theory mass psychosis. Anyone who disagrees with them is part of the the conspiracy (or part of the mass psychosis). Yes I'm sure that they believe that it is the other way round.

This "mass psychosis" theory is really just an easy justification that extremists or mentally ill people use to justify their aberrant beliefs.

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Reply #13 - Sep 19^th, 2021 at 12:15pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 19^th, 2021 at 11:18am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12^th, 2021 at 6:27am:

Could you give us a precis of this in your own words please?

Agreed
It always amuses me when threads are created by just posting a 20 minute (or longer) youtube video and expecting everyone to watch it. And then they wonder why no one responds.

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2021 at 2:10am:

We need to break free of those who feed us dilutions before we go completely mad. The video provides a solution

The problem is that everybody thinks that it's everyone else who is suffering the mass psychosis.

I'm quite convinced that yadda, Bias (and half the members on this forum) suffer from a conspiracy theory mass psychosis. Anyone who disagrees with them is part of the the conspiracy (or part of the mass psychosis). Yes I'm sure that they believe that it is the other way round.

This "mass psychosis" theory is really just an easy justification that extremists or mentally ill people use to justify their aberrant beliefs.

There's a "Feedback" board for making complaints .... or you can bitch to freediver directly via PM

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Reply #14 - Sep 20^th, 2021 at 9:01am

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 19^th, 2021 at 11:18am:

The problem is that everybody thinks that it's everyone else who is suffering the mass psychosis.

No, I’m as subject to the influences of mass delusion as most. Being aware our species is prone to mindless groupthink does however put a brake on completely losing the plot if not providing complete immunity.
You need also to ponder what you’re saying in using contradictory terms in such discussion.
‘Everybody thinks’ & ‘everyone else’ implies the delusions of individuals. ‘Mass psychosis’ refers to lock-step delusions held by and reinforced by tribal idiocy, be it religion, ideology or web induced reinforcement of groupthink to the exclusion of anything like alternative views.

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