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Reply #15 - Sep 14^th, 2021 at 9:08am

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 1:46am:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 13^th, 2021 at 5:15pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 13^th, 2021 at 5:00pm:

I have been watching Dr Berg's videos for the last 2 years. He has been doing me some good with his advice. I would be 15kg heavier if not for him.

So thats where you got that apple cider vinegar BS from

Given that you claim to be fit, I do not know how my urging you to try apple cider vinegar for yourself would make any benefit. But, having drunk diluted apple cider vinegar in the hour before bed, I sleep so much better through the night. I cannot see how a drink like that would be harmful to the body if you drink the right ratio of acv to water.

NOt harmful, but not beneficial.

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Reply #16 - Sep 14^th, 2021 at 9:32am

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 9:08am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 1:46am:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 13^th, 2021 at 5:15pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 13^th, 2021 at 5:00pm:

I have been watching Dr Berg's videos for the last 2 years. He has been doing me some good with his advice. I would be 15kg heavier if not for him.

So thats where you got that apple cider vinegar BS from

Given that you claim to be fit, I do not know how my urging you to try apple cider vinegar for yourself would make any benefit. But, having drunk diluted apple cider vinegar in the hour before bed, I sleep so much better through the night. I cannot see how a drink like that would be harmful to the body if you drink the right ratio of acv to water.

NOt harmful, but not beneficial.

It has some effect on blood sugar and for weight loss, but nowhere near enough to be a get out of jail card for people doing the wrong thing.

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25019 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: Sleep Apnea is a Nutritional Deficency Reply #17 - Sep 14^th, 2021 at 3:39pm John Dillermand wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 9:08am: NOt harmful, but not beneficial. If you knew someone with type 2 diabetes, you could recommend acv to them to help them undo insulin resistance.
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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Sleep Apnea is a Nutritional Deficency Reply #18 - Sep 14^th, 2021 at 3:41pm UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 3:39pm: John Dillermand wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 9:08am: NOt harmful, but not beneficial. If you knew someone with type 2 diabetes, you could recommend acv to them to help them undo insulin resistance. or stop eating refined carbs.
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Reply #19 - Sep 14^th, 2021 at 3:42pm

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 9:08am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 7:04am:

I didnt see any reference to Apple Cider Vinegar in the video, where did that come from?

I looked at the guys video list, its the usual collection of woo.

Analyse some of his "woo" instead of dismissing it out of hand without even knowing what it is about. Guys cured a lot of people with his "woo".

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Gordon Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20776 Gordon Gender:	Re: Sleep Apnea is a Nutritional Deficency Reply #20 - Sep 14^th, 2021 at 3:56pm UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 3:39pm: John Dillermand wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 9:08am: NOt harmful, but not beneficial. If you knew someone with type 2 diabetes, you could recommend acv to them to help them undo insulin resistance. ACV should be the cherry on the cake. Stop eating the cake.
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Reply #21 - Sep 14^th, 2021 at 4:02pm

Gordon wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 9:32am:

It has some effect on blood sugar and for weight loss, but nowhere near enough to be a get out of jail card for people doing the wrong thing.

Initially, the use of apple cider vinegar for me was an alternative to using lemon juice to cure my common cold. But having not had a serious cold for about 4 years, I looked online to find out what kind of health benefits acv has for the body. Because the acv does help with righting the insulin sensitivity, it improves conditions for those with type 2 diabetes. The weight comes off faster.

Sleep apnea for me is a condition where I would get 10 minutes of sleep before I would wake up from snoring. It took a matter of realising that I would roll over in the night onto my side or front before I figured that I was supposed to be falling asleep that way.

The other problem being that if I had something to eat that had a moderate glycemic index or greater, falling asleep was not a problem. But getting an effective sleep was a problem. The body would have to kick in its own way of countering the hyperinsulinemia, unless I popped a metformin before falling asleep.

Thanks to Gordon and his suggestion of "rucking" that I managed to overcome some weight issues and sleep better. The added resistance training has helped me lose the weight quicker. But it takes not eating any junk food to really undo sleep apnea.

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Reply #22 - Sep 14^th, 2021 at 4:09pm

rhino wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 3:41pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 3:39pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 9:08am:

NOt harmful, but not beneficial.

If you knew someone with type 2 diabetes, you could recommend acv to them to help them undo insulin resistance.

or stop eating refined carbs.

You and Gordon have both said that same thing. You two are both right. But once I ween myself off of junk food, there is nothing wrong with continuing having apple cider vinegar to improve insulin sensitivity.

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Reply #23 - Sep 14^th, 2021 at 4:44pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 4:09pm:

rhino wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 3:41pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 3:39pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 9:08am:

NOt harmful, but not beneficial.

If you knew someone with type 2 diabetes, you could recommend acv to them to help them undo insulin resistance.

or stop eating refined carbs.

You and Gordon have both said that same thing. You two are both right. But once I ween myself off of junk food, there is nothing wrong with continuing having apple cider vinegar to improve insulin sensitivity.

Sure. It's been used for centuries.

I'd be rinsing my mouth out with water afterwards, though.

I don't think ACV would be too good for your teeth.

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Reply #24 - Sep 14^th, 2021 at 5:05pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 4:09pm:

rhino wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 3:41pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 3:39pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 9:08am:

NOt harmful, but not beneficial.

If you knew someone with type 2 diabetes, you could recommend acv to them to help them undo insulin resistance.

or stop eating refined carbs.

You and Gordon have both said that same thing. You two are both right. But once I ween myself off of junk food, there is nothing wrong with continuing having apple cider vinegar to improve insulin sensitivity.

I always have a laugh when I hear terminology like "wean yourself off junk food", never going to happen mate, you either eat sh1t or you dont. Junk food does not appear miraculously in your fridge and cupboard, you need to first make the decision to go and buy it, then you have to buy it, then you have to eat it, these are all pre planned decisions. Heres the thing, if you dont eat all those refined carbs your insulin sensitivity automatically improves, if thats your sole reason for consuming ACV then you are completely wasting your time on the wrong track and I dont think you are understanding Dr Berg very well on this subject.

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Reply #25 - Sep 14^th, 2021 at 5:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 4:44pm:

Sure. It's been used for centuries.

I'd be rinsing my mouth out with water afterwards, though.

I don't think ACV would be too good for your teeth.

Why bother using acv for a mouthwash? Use baking soda. Just use a little amount and hold the baking soda in your mouth until it melts in your mouth. Then you swish it around your mouth for 2 minutes and expel. I do this before I have a shower in pre-work preparation. So, I guess 4 times a week -- haha!

You can rinse your mouth out, then brush with your usual toothpaste. As it is not only just an effective teeth cleaner, baking soda is an effective breath freshener. For someone like myself with bad breath, the usual use of baking soda very much ended my bad breath. You just do not want to be holding baking soda in your mouth for longer than 5 minutes as it will damage your mouth.

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Reply #26 - Sep 14^th, 2021 at 5:49pm

rhino wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 5:05pm:

I always have a laugh when I hear terminology like "wean yourself off junk food", never going to happen mate, you either eat sh1t or you dont. Junk food does not appear miraculously in your fridge and cupboard, you need to first make the decision to go and buy it, then you have to buy it, then you have to eat it, these are all pre planned decisions. Heres the thing, if you dont eat all those refined carbs your insulin sensitivity automatically improves, if thats your sole reason for consuming ACV then you are completely wasting your time on the wrong track and I dont think you are understanding Dr Berg very well on this subject.

You can laugh all you want. But when was the last time you went a week without consuming something that others consider junk food? Even if I had some kind of epiphany and just ditched any fast food outlet of any kind, there is always going to be something in my fridge that someone will consider junk food. The only deal I have to make with myself is to go sober and avoid anything junk food and high sugar content.

Certainly, if I spent my last 25 years not eating any junk food, I would probably be 25kg lighter, have a different personality, and not be posting to ozpolitic.com. But, -- get ready to laugh your arse off -- junk food is still a form of food. And it is not like I am eating junk food 3 times a day, 7 days a week. Probably once or twice a week at most. It is not like junk food cannot be metabolised to the point that I am having a KFC bowel movement.

Give it a moment to sink in that I am not suggesting drinking acv as an excuse to go out and eat and drink more rubbish food and drink. You drink apple cider vinegar with water to help improve your sleep through reducing blood glucose levels.

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Reply #27 - Sep 14^th, 2021 at 5:51pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 3:39pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 9:08am:

NOt harmful, but not beneficial.

If you knew someone with type 2 diabetes, you could recommend acv to them to help them undo insulin resistance.

I'd actually just advise a healthy diet and exercise to increase insulin sensitivity first.

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Reply #28 - Sep 14^th, 2021 at 6:03pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 5:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 4:44pm:

Sure. It's been used for centuries.

I'd be rinsing my mouth out with water afterwards, though.

I don't think ACV would be too good for your teeth.

Why bother using acv for a mouthwash?

Um, I think you misunderstood me.

I'm saying that after you've had ACV, you should then rinse your mouth out with ordinary water (from the tap).

ACV can't be good for your teeth, so washing out your mouth with just ordinary water afterwards will hopefully rinse off most of the acid from your teeth.

I would never advocate using ACV as a mouthwash - that's just asking for cavities, or at the very least extremely sensitive teeth.

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Reply #29 - Sep 14^th, 2021 at 6:46pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 5:49pm:

rhino wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 5:05pm:

I always have a laugh when I hear terminology like "wean yourself off junk food", never going to happen mate, you either eat sh1t or you dont. Junk food does not appear miraculously in your fridge and cupboard, you need to first make the decision to go and buy it, then you have to buy it, then you have to eat it, these are all pre planned decisions. Heres the thing, if you dont eat all those refined carbs your insulin sensitivity automatically improves, if thats your sole reason for consuming ACV then you are completely wasting your time on the wrong track and I dont think you are understanding Dr Berg very well on this subject.

You can laugh all you want. But when was the last time you went a week without consuming something that others consider junk food?

I dont eat junk food, never ever. The closest I get to it is chips with my salad and ribs about once a month.

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Even if I had some kind of epiphany and just ditched any fast food outlet of any kind, there is always going to be something in my fridge that someone will consider junk food. The only deal I have to make with myself is to go sober and avoid anything junk food and high sugar content.

Certainly, if I spent my last 25 years not eating any junk food, I would probably be 25kg lighter, have a different personality, and not be posting to ozpolitic.com. But, -- get ready to laugh your arse off -- junk food is still a form of food. And it is not like I am eating junk food 3 times a day, 7 days a week. Probably once or twice a week at most. It is not like junk food cannot be metabolised to the point that I am having a KFC bowel movement.

Give it a moment to sink in that I am not suggesting drinking acv as an excuse to go out and eat and drink more rubbish food and drink. You drink apple cider vinegar with water to help improve your sleep through reducing blood glucose levels.

You know why I laugh? Because of the absolute sh1t you just posted. If what you were doing was working then you wouldnt have diabetes. Not eating reduces blood glucose levels. You think your remote ancestors ate 6 meals a day and then ACV to balance it out somehow?

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