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Reply #30 - Sep 14th, 2021 at 6:49pm
 
Why do lazy people always try and make out everyone else is as lazy as them?
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Reply #31 - Sep 14th, 2021 at 7:03pm
 

The junk food/fast food thing amazes me.

I know people who brag about not eating much fast food at all: "Maybe once or twice a week, maximum".

Holy crap!

At the absolute most, I might have fast food once or twice a year.

Maybe KFC once a year with my dear old Dad, coz he loves that poo and I get it for him on his birthday, and maybe one burger from Hungry Jack's a year after a boozy night with a mate who works up north in the mines.

That's it.

And even then I feel bad.  Physically sick, actually, after one of those fast food burgers.

But there are people who think nothing of having a Big Mac every day for lunch - with fries!

Every day!  FFS!

And still they say: "That's not much - it's not like I'm eating it twice a day or anything".

It really saddens me that poison like Macca's and HJ's has become "normal" food.

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Reply #32 - Sep 14th, 2021 at 8:07pm
 
The 3 biggest money spinners for the pharmaceutical industry are cholesterol medication, blood pressure meds and diabetes meds. All 100 percent diet and lifestyle related except for Diabetes type 1. What aggravates me is the strain put on medical resources by these obese gluttons. The stupidity behind it is that the cholesterol meds have been shown to have no benefit and actually may decrease lifespan, people have high blood pressure because they dont exercise and are on cr2p diets and diabetes type 2 is prescribed insulin which makes the illness chronic. No wonder a lot of people dont trust medical practitioners, most of what they tell us is absolute BS.
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Reply #33 - Sep 14th, 2021 at 8:34pm
 

The way GPs push anti-cholesterol medication is almost criminal.

Lipitor is a poo drug with horrible side-effects, and does nothing positive for 99% of the people who take it.

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Reply #34 - Sep 14th, 2021 at 8:52pm
 
rhino wrote on Sep 14th, 2021 at 8:07pm:
The 3 biggest money spinners for the pharmaceutical industry are cholesterol medication, blood pressure meds and diabetes meds. All 100 percent diet and lifestyle related except for Diabetes type 1. What aggravates me is the strain put on medical resources by these obese gluttons. The stupidity behind it is that the cholesterol meds have been shown to have no benefit and actually may decrease lifespan, people have high blood pressure because they dont exercise and are on cr2p diets and diabetes type 2 is prescribed insulin which makes the illness chronic. No wonder a lot of people dont trust medical practitioners, most of what they tell us is absolute BS.


I went to my local McMedical centre yesterday to get my kids immunisation record sorted out, and saw about 5 morbidly obese people with swollen bandaged dying legs.
Give them a year or so and they'll be an amputee in a lard cart, in 5 years, a double amputee. One was near enough that I caught the pong of dying flesh.
All self-inflicted.

On statins, yeah I read there is a very small group of people who really need them, all the people on them for lifestyle issues shouldn't be.
 
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Reply #35 - Sep 14th, 2021 at 9:50pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14th, 2021 at 6:03pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14th, 2021 at 5:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14th, 2021 at 4:44pm:
Sure.  It's been used for centuries.

I'd be rinsing my mouth out with water afterwards, though.

I don't think ACV would be too good for your teeth.


Why bother using acv for a mouthwash?



Um, I think you misunderstood me.

I'm saying that after you've had ACV, you should then rinse your mouth out with ordinary water (from the tap).

ACV can't be good for your teeth, so washing out your mouth with just ordinary water afterwards will hopefully rinse off most of the acid from your teeth.

I would never advocate using ACV as a mouthwash - that's just asking for cavities, or at the very least extremely sensitive teeth.


I think I did misunderstand you. I did not suggest that you should not brush your teeth sometime after having a glass of diluted acv. You might as well have another half glass of water after having the acv. Brushing your teeth should be the last thing you do before you go to bed.
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Reply #36 - Sep 14th, 2021 at 9:55pm
 
John Dillermand wrote on Sep 14th, 2021 at 5:51pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14th, 2021 at 3:39pm:
John Dillermand wrote on Sep 14th, 2021 at 9:08am:
NOt harmful, but not beneficial.


If you knew someone with type 2 diabetes, you could recommend acv to them to help them undo insulin resistance.


I'd actually just advise a healthy diet and exercise to increase insulin sensitivity first.


And for those people that are obese through poor diet and poor exercise but want to increase their insulin sensitivity, they should not use acv to help with correcting the problem? I mean, in terms of a performance enhancer, acv could be the drink that helps motivate someone to exercise more.
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Reply #37 - Sep 14th, 2021 at 10:21pm
 
rhino wrote on Sep 14th, 2021 at 6:46pm:
I dont eat junk food, never ever. The closest I get to it is chips with my salad and ribs about once a month.


You don't eat junk food, never have. But then you go to say that you have chips with ribs once a month. I was going to say that I would find it highly unlikely that anyone would avoid junk food throughout their life. But perhaps you meant in the last 20 or 30 years you had an obsession with eating healthy and only consider side orders of chips a technicality to a healthy meal. So, you have not a clue what burgers, fried chicken, Maccas, soft drink, ice cream, pie and alcohol taste like?

rhino wrote on Sep 14th, 2021 at 6:46pm:
You know why I laugh? Because of the absolute sh1t you just posted. If what you were doing was working then you wouldnt have diabetes. Not eating reduces blood glucose levels. You think your remote ancestors ate 6 meals a day and then ACV to balance it out somehow?


I did not touch apple cider vinegar until about 4 years after being diagnosed with diabetes. Like I said, the discovery of the benefits of acv was not until I was using it as an alternative to using lime or lemon juice. If you can help promote your digestion and increase the insulin sensitivity, you will get better sleep. Better sleep, the more energy you have by the next day. You lose the weight and then sleep better. And then this goes on and on until you reach near optimal health and fitness levels.

By the way, it takes up to three years before you can be free of diabetes, if you do a proper diet and exercise every day.
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Reply #38 - Sep 14th, 2021 at 10:35pm
 
rhino wrote on Sep 14th, 2021 at 6:49pm:
Why do lazy people always try and make out everyone else is as lazy as them?


I do not claim that other people are as lazy as me. I do claim that other people should not belittle my own advice just because I do have lazy weeks.
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Reply #39 - Sep 14th, 2021 at 10:45pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14th, 2021 at 7:03pm:
The junk food/fast food thing amazes me.

I know people who brag about not eating much fast food at all: "Maybe once or twice a week, maximum".

Holy crap!


We had a fast food outlet open up across the road from where I went to high school. Our senior years were rife with accusations of sneaking out of the school yard to get some fast food from the 'restaurant'. The restaurant had to put a ban on school children being served between 9am and 3pm on a school day.

And then university was pretty bad for the cafeteria hosting decent meals, but at high prices. You could either have a $12 meal and drink. Or you could hold out and ride down to Maccas for a $5 burger fries and drink meal. The bad eating habits very much start in high school. But, as long as you keep moving around, the weight does come off. Because 90% of your meals are usually nutritious.
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Reply #40 - Sep 14th, 2021 at 10:57pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14th, 2021 at 10:21pm:

By the way, it takes up to three years before you can be free of diabetes, if you do a proper diet and exercise every day.
Bullsh1t. Diabetes is a disease of high insulin, it starts to reverse as soon as you lower your insulin.
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Reply #41 - Sep 14th, 2021 at 11:07pm
 
rhino wrote on Sep 14th, 2021 at 10:57pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14th, 2021 at 10:21pm:

By the way, it takes up to three years before you can be free of diabetes, if you do a proper diet and exercise every day.
Bullsh1t. Diabetes is a disease of high insulin, it starts to reverse as soon as you lower your insulin.


So, it is bullshit that 3 years of proper diet and exercise can lead type 2 diabetics to be free of diabetes?

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Reply #42 - Sep 15th, 2021 at 8:43am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14th, 2021 at 9:55pm:
John Dillermand wrote on Sep 14th, 2021 at 5:51pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14th, 2021 at 3:39pm:
John Dillermand wrote on Sep 14th, 2021 at 9:08am:
NOt harmful, but not beneficial.


If you knew someone with type 2 diabetes, you could recommend acv to them to help them undo insulin resistance.


I'd actually just advise a healthy diet and exercise to increase insulin sensitivity first.


And for those people that are obese through poor diet and poor exercise but want to increase their insulin sensitivity, they should not use acv to help with correcting the problem? I mean, in terms of a performance enhancer, acv could be the drink that helps motivate someone to exercise more.



No, they should change their diet and exercise.


Seriously how smacking hard is it.
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Reply #43 - Sep 15th, 2021 at 8:44am
 
rhino wrote on Sep 14th, 2021 at 10:57pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14th, 2021 at 10:21pm:

By the way, it takes up to three years before you can be free of diabetes, if you do a proper diet and exercise every day.
Bullsh1t. Diabetes is a disease of high insulin, it starts to reverse as soon as you lower your insulin.



To be pedantic, type 1 diabetes mellitus is due to no insulin. Type 2 Diabetes mellitus is due to poor receptor response to insulin.

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Reply #44 - Sep 15th, 2021 at 9:51am
 
John Dillermand wrote on Sep 15th, 2021 at 8:44am:
rhino wrote on Sep 14th, 2021 at 10:57pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14th, 2021 at 10:21pm:

By the way, it takes up to three years before you can be free of diabetes, if you do a proper diet and exercise every day.
Bullsh1t. Diabetes is a disease of high insulin, it starts to reverse as soon as you lower your insulin.



To be pedantic, type 1 diabetes mellitus is due to no insulin. Type 2 Diabetes mellitus is due to poor receptor response to insulin.

In this context , type 2. And yes, poor receptor response because of too much insulin. My point is valid, less refine carbs wont spike insulin as much.
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