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Reply #45 - Sep 15^th, 2021 at 9:55am

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 11:07pm:

rhino wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 10:57pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 10:21pm:

By the way, it takes up to three years before you can be free of diabetes, if you do a proper diet and exercise every day.

Bullsh1t. Diabetes is a disease of high insulin, it starts to reverse as soon as you lower your insulin.

So, it is bullshit that 3 years of proper diet and exercise can lead type 2 diabetics to be free of diabetes?

Low carb diet typically reverses type 2 diabetes within 3 months, some people are reporting being cured in a few weeks.

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Reply #46 - Sep 15^th, 2021 at 10:58am

rhino wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 9:51am:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 8:44am:

rhino wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 10:57pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 14^th, 2021 at 10:21pm:

By the way, it takes up to three years before you can be free of diabetes, if you do a proper diet and exercise every day.

Bullsh1t. Diabetes is a disease of high insulin, it starts to reverse as soon as you lower your insulin.

To be pedantic, type 1 diabetes mellitus is due to no insulin. Type 2 Diabetes mellitus is due to poor receptor response to insulin.

In this context , type 2. And yes, poor receptor response because of too much insulin. My point is valid, less refine carbs wont spike insulin as much.

Again not necessarily too much insulin. Free fatty acids interfere with insulin signalling, but your point still stands about carbs.

We both agree, just being a bit pedantic. Your point stands about diet.

Want to increase insulin sensitivity? Diet and exercise first. Drinking ACV is a lazy way to go about the problem.

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Reply #47 - Sep 15^th, 2021 at 2:53pm

rhino wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 9:55am:

Low carb diet typically reverses type 2 diabetes within 3 months, some people are reporting being cured in a few weeks.

That would have meant that my very healthy diet and exercise regime of 10 months back in 2014/2015 would have meant that I was not diabetic. I lost a lot of weight. But I was still diabetic. I would trust my doctor's advice over yours.

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Reply #48 - Sep 15^th, 2021 at 2:58pm

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 10:58am:

Want to increase insulin sensitivity? Diet and exercise first. Drinking ACV is a lazy way to go about the problem.

Do all three. Diet well. Train hard. Go to bed an hour after drinking acv. A fourth way to have better sleep. Spend the first few minutes holding your breath for a minute. Recover and then keep repeating that until you feel drowsy enough to sleep. Better night's rest. Your circulation improves for a more restful night.

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Reply #49 - Sep 15^th, 2021 at 2:59pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 2:53pm:

rhino wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 9:55am:

Low carb diet typically reverses type 2 diabetes within 3 months, some people are reporting being cured in a few weeks.

That would have meant that my very healthy diet and exercise regime of 10 months back in 2014/2015 would have meant that I was not diabetic. I lost a lot of weight. But I was still diabetic. I would trust my doctor's advice over yours.

Bullsh1t. You are completely ignorant of what constitutes a healthy diet, you have been eating the wrong foods all along. You have never had a healthy diet otherwise you wouldnt have diabetes you fool. diabetes type 2 can be cured in weeks, stay stupid, you are the one with the disease. Wink

keep doing what you are doing. Grin

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Reply #50 - Sep 15^th, 2021 at 3:06pm

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 8:43am:

No, they should change their diet and exercise. Seriously how smacking hard is it.

You need to trigger something to get into shape. In your case, fat-shaming. Either yourself or someone else. And because I have seen you fat-shame yourself into getting into shape, you know it works. For me, it was the thought of becoming that fat old guy who no longer looked 25 years old. I don't want to Bragg about it, but some acv inside a big glass of water is a real boost for the next day. And a trigger to keep doing the healthier diets. Elevated exercise intensity comes later.

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Reply #51 - Sep 15^th, 2021 at 3:13pm

rhino wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 2:59pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 2:53pm:

rhino wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 9:55am:

Low carb diet typically reverses type 2 diabetes within 3 months, some people are reporting being cured in a few weeks.

That would have meant that my very healthy diet and exercise regime of 10 months back in 2014/2015 would have meant that I was not diabetic. I lost a lot of weight. But I was still diabetic. I would trust my doctor's advice over yours.

Bullsh1t. You are completely ignorant of what constitutes a healthy diet, you have been eating the wrong foods all along. You have never had a healthy diet otherwise you wouldnt have diabetes you fool. diabetes type 2 can be cured in weeks, stay stupid, you are the one with the disease. Wink

keep doing what you are doing. Grin

See John? rhino's doing his drill instructor thing to fat shame me. Last night's grocery shopping was near completely healthy. Perhaps only the fruit juice being the unhealthy option. But I bet that is preferable to the refrigerated Coca Cola bottles I take with me to the cinema.

Well, seeing that you think diabetes can be cured in weeks, a month long health commitment should see me off medication by November. But, I doubt that. It took 20 years for me to become diabetic. I doubt it gets cured inside a few weeks.

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Reply #52 - Sep 15^th, 2021 at 3:29pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 3:06pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 8:43am:

No, they should change their diet and exercise. Seriously how smacking hard is it.

You need to trigger something to get into shape. In your case, fat-shaming. Either yourself or someone else. And because I have seen you fat-shame yourself into getting into shape, you know it works. For me, it was the thought of becoming that fat old guy who no longer looked 25 years old. I don't want to Bragg about it, but some acv inside a big glass of water is a real boost for the next day. And a trigger to keep doing the healthier diets. Elevated exercise intensity comes later.

Elevated exercise should be first.

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Reply #53 - Sep 15^th, 2021 at 3:39pm

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 3:29pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 3:06pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 8:43am:

No, they should change their diet and exercise. Seriously how smacking hard is it.

You need to trigger something to get into shape. In your case, fat-shaming. Either yourself or someone else. And because I have seen you fat-shame yourself into getting into shape, you know it works. For me, it was the thought of becoming that fat old guy who no longer looked 25 years old. I don't want to Bragg about it, but some acv inside a big glass of water is a real boost for the next day. And a trigger to keep doing the healthier diets. Elevated exercise intensity comes later.

Elevated exercise should be first.

Not straight away. Improved diet first. Let the body adjust to better nutrition. Mild exercise. Then the elevated intensity for the exercise comes into fruition. Fat Alberts that hit the gym and benchpress a lot or go out and run 5km in their first week of trying to turn things around will only do themselves injuries and possibly give up too soon.

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Reply #54 - Sep 15^th, 2021 at 3:53pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 2:53pm:

rhino wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 9:55am:

Low carb diet typically reverses type 2 diabetes within 3 months, some people are reporting being cured in a few weeks.

That would have meant that my very healthy diet and exercise regime of 10 months back in 2014/2015 would have meant that I was not diabetic. I lost a lot of weight. But I was still diabetic. I would trust my doctor's advice over yours.

did you limit your KFC to twice a week?

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Reply #55 - Sep 15^th, 2021 at 3:55pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 3:39pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 3:29pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 3:06pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 8:43am:

No, they should change their diet and exercise. Seriously how smacking hard is it.

You need to trigger something to get into shape. In your case, fat-shaming. Either yourself or someone else. And because I have seen you fat-shame yourself into getting into shape, you know it works. For me, it was the thought of becoming that fat old guy who no longer looked 25 years old. I don't want to Bragg about it, but some acv inside a big glass of water is a real boost for the next day. And a trigger to keep doing the healthier diets. Elevated exercise intensity comes later.

Elevated exercise should be first.

Not straight away. Improved diet first. Let the body adjust to better nutrition. Mild exercise. Then the elevated intensity for the exercise comes into fruition. Fat Alberts that hit the gym and benchpress a lot or go out and run 5km in their first week of trying to turn things around will only do themselves injuries and possibly give up too soon.

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Reply #56 - Sep 15^th, 2021 at 3:57pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 3:39pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 3:29pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 3:06pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 8:43am:

No, they should change their diet and exercise. Seriously how smacking hard is it.

You need to trigger something to get into shape. In your case, fat-shaming. Either yourself or someone else. And because I have seen you fat-shame yourself into getting into shape, you know it works. For me, it was the thought of becoming that fat old guy who no longer looked 25 years old. I don't want to Bragg about it, but some acv inside a big glass of water is a real boost for the next day. And a trigger to keep doing the healthier diets. Elevated exercise intensity comes later.

Elevated exercise should be first.

Not straight away. Improved diet first. Let the body adjust to better nutrition. Mild exercise. Then the elevated intensity for the exercise comes into fruition. Fat Alberts that hit the gym and benchpress a lot or go out and run 5km in their first week of trying to turn things around will only do themselves injuries and possibly give up too soon.

Sure, but the ramp up should be a few months, not years Wink

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Reply #58 - Sep 15^th, 2021 at 4:30pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 3:53pm:

did you limit your KFC to twice a week?

KFC sent out a missing person report when I had not shown up in over a month. The police just do a quick drive around to see if I am home or out walking in the suburb. And the neighbours get concerned if they do not hear snoring from my place at 9am. When they did not see me get in my car to go to work for a week, the lady had to knock on my front door to make sure I was not dead.

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Reply #59 - Sep 15^th, 2021 at 4:34pm

rhino wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 4:14pm:

20 years so far, longest run up in history.

Bad diet started around 15 years of age. Got worse in adulthood. Other than a few healthy years in my early 20s, the diets have been modest to poor. Are you seriously trying to tell me that you can undo, say 10 years of prediabetes and 7 years of diabetes in a few weeks? Because the doctors will tell you otherwise.

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