Gordon wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 3:57pm:


Back when I was 130kg and decided enough was enough, I cut out all the alcohol, all the sugar, all the junkfood. I took to walking 4km a night every night. Inside 2 weeks, I had lost 5kg. Very much easy to do since there was a lot of weight to lose. The jogging began after that. I could jog my 125kg as far as I could and then walk the rest. If I started running the entire route at 130kg, or even 125kg, I would do some damage with injuries that would have to lead me to hold off exercise for weeks.

I ran with a 25kg backpack for 100 metres until I found it ill-advisable. Walked the remaining 5km. Home I went and got stuck into some apple cider vinegar:

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 4:34pm:



So becuase you don't see quick effects why bother?

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 15^th, 2021 at 4:56pm:


I made the argument, based on my doctor's advice, that type 2 diabetes can be cured in about 3 years. I actually did ask my doctor if I could be off medication inside 6 months if I ate healthy and exercised regularly. She scoffed and said that my health would be much improved, but it would take around 3 years to be completely free of diabetes.

You can only lose about 2kg per week at most for the greatest rate of healthy weightloss. I would not expect anyone, other than very obese people to lose more than 15 kg of excess weight inside 2 months. You may improve your insulin sensitivity in that time. But, you are not going to cure yourself of diabetes in 2 months.

I would be willing to guess that a year of dedicated healthy living would have a diabetic go back to prediabetes levels. But they would need another 2 years of healthy living to be free of diabetes (and not need medication).

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2021 at 7:58pm:


The doctors have a line up of people that need greater attention than some 42 year old with diabetes. I have to go to the doctors every 6 months to renew a prescription for diabetes medication. That costs me $27.50 per visit. $55 a year. I would not see a doctor ever again in relation to diabetes if I did not drink alcohol. So, that "vested interest" would be null and void if I did the right thing 10 years ago and went sober.

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 16^th, 2021 at 7:44pm:
Thats not low carb. You claim to know everything but you
cant identify which foods contain carbohydrates.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16^th, 2021 at 8:25pm:


I do not mind criticism. But, as long as you are being constructive with your criticism, there is no problem. Having grown up in a household where my mother is/was a registered nurse, I really should be better prepared for a healthier lifestyle than most people. However, life happens... and you can fall behind.

What I want to make sure you understand is that doctors have no shortage of patients. How often do you show up to a hospital for whatever reason and you see a waiting room with standing room only? Hospitals have no shortage of patients. And neither do GPs.

Even though I have no medical background, I have had enough research on the topic of health and nutrition to not have a single excuse for any considerable health problem. It only comes with the more involved research on endocrinology that I would have to learn. And seeing that John Dillermand did give a real direction in what I should understand in terms of insulin sensitivity, I have begun the journey in countering whatever problems I have developed regarding my diabetes.

My doctors have told me to get my blood sugars under control. My main doctor gave me a few pointers on what I should have to eat and drink. If it comes to a point that my doctor is telling me what to do in terms of my health that is contrary to other doctors or general health guidelines, then there will be the problem. Not me spending $6 a month on diabetic medication.

The Obesity Evidence Hub reported recently that more than 70 per cent of Australians in regional and remote areas are overweight or obese. Almost half of all Australian men aged 65-74 years are obese. Excess adiposity brings with it a swathe of other health problems including high blood pressure, diabetes and sleep apnoea. Crucially then if you are an elderly and obese Covid-19 patient you will be far more likely to need hospitalisation and mechanical ventilation in intensive care.

Frank, you do not see many obese 65 to 74-year-old men in Australia. Even my father lost a lot of weight in his 60s. But I doubt that he will be around for any longer than 10 years from now.