Have you heard about this one Athos? The CCP basically starved your people to death. Apparently you cannot eat propaganda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine

The Great Chinese Famine (Chinese: 三年大饥荒, "three years of great famine") was a period between 1959 and 1961 in the history of the People's Republic of China (PRC) characterized by widespread famine.

The Great Chinese Famine is widely regarded as the deadliest famine and one of the greatest man-made disasters in human history, with an estimated death toll due to starvation that ranges in the tens of millions (15 to 55 million).

The major contributing factors in the famine were the policies of the Great Leap Forward (1958 to 1962) and people's communes, such as inefficient distribution of food due to the planned economy, requiring the use of poor agricultural techniques, the Four Pests Campaign that reduced bird populations (which disrupted the ecosystem), over-reporting of grain production (which was actually decreasing), and ordering millions of farmers to switch to iron and steel production.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58733193

And even if they had the food security in China today, they are having a hell of a lot of trouble trying to get power to cook their food. Having to rely on wood stoves to cook. So much for being carbon neutral by the year 2060.

A strange take on pragmatism:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 2:11pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 6:59pm:


Perhaps that's why they keep labelling the CCP as pragmatic.

lol. making lies and bullsh1t again?

You should talk about the truth. There were over 100 million aboriginals killed by Australia colonialist.

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Would you mind referring me to the propaganda ministry website that you are getting this from?

There were never 100 million Aborigines in this country since Establishment Day.

In the 1850's, when my great-greats arrived here, the population overall was around 1 million total.  In 1914, at the outbreak of WWI - the entire population was 4 million, making  the loss of young men way out of proportion to all other combatant nations.....

None of my ancestors ever persecuted an Aborigine or did anything to them....

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 30^th, 2022 at 11:51am:


The real reason the CCP wants to keep its citizens in the dark about the Great Chinese famine is so that it can repeat those mistakes at will. It does not have the wellbeing of the Chinese people at heart.

For example it cannot keep the lights on, not for any real lack of ability or resources, but in order save face on the global playing field. Of course, it is the Chinese people who suffer as a result.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1644727643

Another example - under-reporting of covid deaths. This no doubt leads to more deaths from covid, as the country will not provide resources to save the lives of its own citizens if it is lying to itself about whether they are dying. This is pretty much the exact same cause as the great Chinese famine - internal party politics causing regional leaders to misreport what is actually happening.

Only problem is, they believe their own propaganda, and try to boast about the low death rate:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1643170908/289#289

It's like the CCP boasting about how well fed the Chinese people are while 50 million of them starve to death.

This is why the CCP is so hostile to both democracy and basic freedoms, like freedom of the press, and publishes so much absurd propaganda against them. Both would save the lives of countless Chinese people, but it would come at the cost of CCP leaders losing face and the CCP losing power. Ironically, the CCP champions both democracy and free and open debate within the party as the best way of managing it.

The CCP would literally prefer to kill Chinese people in large numbers than face reality.

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 4:15pm: