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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #120 - Oct 10th, 2021 at 8:35pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 10th, 2021 at 8:34pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 10th, 2021 at 8:30pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 10th, 2021 at 8:29pm:
Nobody cares for your bullshit little pecca. You made a bet with BIAS that you would leave this forum if Trump beat Hillary. When are you going to be a man and honour your bet with BIAS or are you just a filthy liar?


Deflection, much?


It's not a deflection i don't have time for people with no integrity and never honour their bets.

I usually scroll over his bullshit it's never worth reading.





MIAMI (AP) — Florida surpassed 50,000 coronavirus deaths since the pandemic began, health officials reported Thursday, with more than one fourth of those succumbing this summer as the state battled a fierce surge in infections fueled by the delta variant.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention tallied 50,811 deaths after adding more than 1,500 COVID-19 deaths provided Thursday by the state’s health department. Those reported deaths occurred over various dates in recent weeks.

Florida has the 11th worst per-capita death rate among the 50 states, the CDC says. New Jersey, Mississippi and New York have had the worst, but Florida has risen from the 17th spot in the past two weeks.

Overall, about one in every 400 Florida residents who were alive in March 2020 has since died of COVID-19. Only cancer and heart disease have killed more Floridians during that period, according to state health department statistics. Those have each killed about 70,000 Floridians.
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Reply #121 - Oct 10th, 2021 at 8:36pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 10th, 2021 at 8:34pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 10th, 2021 at 8:30pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 10th, 2021 at 8:29pm:
Nobody cares for your bullshit little pecca. You made a bet with BIAS that you would leave this forum if Trump beat Hillary. When are you going to be a man and honour your bet with BIAS or are you just a filthy liar?


Deflection, much?


It's not a deflection i don't have time for people with no integrity and never honour their bets.

I usually scroll over his bullshit it's never worth reading.



But time enough to make a deflecting post including highlighting, bolding and enhanced font size...
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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #122 - Oct 10th, 2021 at 9:00pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 10th, 2021 at 8:16pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 10th, 2021 at 8:15pm:
Florida USA

No vaccine passports no masks for kids everything open.

Funny how media reported when cases went up then the sheeple were like silence of the Lambs when cases started to drop

Age is a major risk for Kung Flu many older move to Florida to retire because it's warm.

Message from 'Florida Man' to Australia




Thank you Florida Man.
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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #123 - Oct 10th, 2021 at 9:21pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Oct 10th, 2021 at 7:54pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 10th, 2021 at 6:26pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 10th, 2021 at 6:20pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 10th, 2021 at 6:11pm:
one more time for the terminally slow ..


the death rate is only a small part of it. Most of our restrictions are there to protect the health system from collapse. Open up before you have enough people immunised and you can just about guarantee that the health system won't cope


Yes. That's true... And not only the death rate... What about those who survive only via intensive care which requires 24 hour monitoring... And those who survive because of hospitalization all of which drain resources and never mind the usual care-giving required.





4 north qld hospitals all declared a 'code yellow' last week. Code yellow signifies capacity issues.

And that was with no covid in the community . WTF happens in north qld if covid is allowed to run riot? There just aren't that many hospitals up there.




the hospital system will need to adjust and prioritise.

this is a good thing.


Interesting looking at death stats for Oz, there were over 8000 less deaths in 2020 compared to 2019.

Also, less people are going into hospitals for critical care (eg: cancer, heart attacks) due to fear of going into hospital since this COVID outbreak in 2020.
If a hospital becomes “over run” by Covid patients…. I noticed the medicos are worried there isn’t enough of them to cope?
Could that be because of a lot of nurses leaving due to not wanting to be coerced to keep their job because of jab?
(It’s not just nurses leaving in droves)

I went into a live chat a couple nights ago, a man in Gold Coast hospital (non Covid related)  was talking and told us “the hospital is practically empty, hardly anyone here”
After all, Qld hasn’t a current COVID crisis problem, so that’s understandable.



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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #124 - Oct 10th, 2021 at 11:56pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 10th, 2021 at 3:53pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 10th, 2021 at 3:48pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 10th, 2021 at 1:37pm:
It wouldn't matter who was in power (even if it were the Greens or any party), the human response would be the same.

In humans, the primal, instinctive pathogenic response is also co-opted as the mechanism by which we respond to moral disgust. We recoil from those who transgress collective or personal morality in the same way we recoil from pathogens, which means our primary response to evidence of contagious sickness usually triggers both. In short, the sick can disgust us in two ways.

The suppression of moral disgust to sickness has only been possible in the modern era (over the last, say, 150 years) because advances in science has taught us that sickness is not the result of god's (or a higher metaphysical power's) moral displeasure.

Yet, while, as humans, our higher facultires can suppress this response, they will still be triggered when we see / comprehend physical sickness, moral transgressions or the sight of sickness triggering both; varying in intensity from aversion to revulsion.

If you imagine that the response to this virus is significant, imagine if it had a 30%+ death rate. In that circumstance it would not be an exaggeration to suggest that those who were sick, and who attempted to infiltrate healthy communities, would be shot dead on sight.



There's been great advances in medical science, but very little advancement in the science of self-control. The use of Reptilian brains seems to be the go in the community and parliaments as far as this Covid thing goes

What happened to human dignity, is that just for some, and bugger the rest? .... Discrimination cancels out human dignity ... but I'm noticing praise and approval for those who are doing the discriminating

We have a long way to go before we finally eradicate "feel good" instincts that destroy other constituents in our so called "We Are One" society. It's still the law of the jungle on certain levels ... panicking politicians equals subsequent police brutality, lack of self-control and inevitable discrimination

More like primate-mammalian brain.

These powerful motivators are hard to control... Like escaping from fire, for example, that invariably causes panic... Which is why the analogy that free speech does not cover the right to shout 'fire' in a theatre.

Disease (or the threat of it) trigger these deeply instinctive responses and are as hard to pacify or eliminate as trying not to think of an elephant.


Right again .... Covid triggered a deeply instinctive response in the politicians causing them to isolate and lock citizens in buildings, punish citizens in the street, and discriminate against and threaten many other citizens

One wonders why we vote for those University educated politicians ... I don't, but a good percentage do, glutens for punishment I suppose

When you can't get your way, like a spoiled child, start swinging a big stick

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #125 - Oct 11th, 2021 at 12:14am
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 10th, 2021 at 11:56pm:
Right again .... Covid triggered a deeply instinctive response in the politicians causing them to isolate and lock citizens in buildings, punish citizens in the street, and discriminate against and threaten many other citizens

One wonders why we vote for those University educated politicians ... I don't, but a good percentage do, glutens for punishment I suppose

When you can't get your way, like a spoiled child, start swinging a big stick


COVID triggered the pathogenic response in all of us where the virus became an issue.

Politicians are judged by their success in controlling a disaster once it begins. None usually gets credit for averting, by good management, disasters that didn't happen because of that good management. In other words, because we are not as clear-sighted as the Taiwanese, the disaster had to happen before action could be taken.

The phenomenon of those who decided the whole thing was a hoax or couldn't fathom what it all meant, is a result of at least 2 generations of Australians having no comprehension of existential threat...

Think of that clip of the beachgoer in Asia, standing on the beach, staring, as the tsunami wave was only a minute from sweeping him away to his death, presumably having never seen a tsunami before; and you'll have the analogy.
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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #126 - Oct 11th, 2021 at 9:47am
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 10th, 2021 at 9:00pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 10th, 2021 at 8:16pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 10th, 2021 at 8:15pm:
Florida USA

No vaccine passports no masks for kids everything open.

Funny how media reported when cases went up then the sheeple were like silence of the Lambs when cases started to drop

Age is a major risk for Kung Flu many older move to Florida to retire because it's warm.

Message from 'Florida Man' to Australia




Thank you Florida Man.


Florida MAN .....Amen to that....

take note Aqua, Gordon, Nail & whoever else is whinging about our restrictions & advocating total lifting of them & business as usual.

Get on down to the produce store for your dose of horse wormer or anything else US inspired you plonkers.
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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #127 - Oct 11th, 2021 at 10:34am
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 11th, 2021 at 12:14am:
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 10th, 2021 at 11:56pm:
Right again .... Covid triggered a deeply instinctive response in the politicians causing them to isolate and lock citizens in buildings, punish citizens in the street, and discriminate against and threaten many other citizens

One wonders why we vote for those University educated politicians ... I don't, but a good percentage do, glutens for punishment I suppose

When you can't get your way, like a spoiled child, start swinging a big stick


COVID triggered the pathogenic response in all of us where the virus became an issue.

Politicians are judged by their success in controlling a disaster once it begins. None usually gets credit for averting, by good management, disasters that didn't happen because of that good management. In other words, because we are not as clear-sighted as the Taiwanese, the disaster had to happen before action could be taken.

The phenomenon of those who decided the whole thing was a hoax or couldn't fathom what it all meant, is a result of at least 2 generations of Australians having no comprehension of existential threat...

Think of that clip of the beachgoer in Asia, standing on the beach, staring, as the tsunami wave was only a minute from sweeping him away to his death, presumably having never seen a tsunami before; and you'll have the analogy.



Still no excuse for politicians to become belligerent and sic their police force on us. Covid is a part of Nature, it's not like a crime wave where politicians necessarily need to concentrate on cracking down on violent criminals

The main reason for their panic was that the economy would suffer, and it wouldn't matter if it was a virus invading Australia, or an invasion of galactic aliens, they were determined to keep money coming in and circulating, there's over a billion dollars of interest on debt to pay each month ... plus there's their own excesses they enjoy and must be paid for, luxury meals in Parliament as one example, and chauffeur driven cars, etc

The real solution to Covid was to forget the money and block Australia from international air traffic and maritime shipping, only letting in fuel and medical supplies but with very stringent testing and stringent safeguards dealing with only a minimum number of crews at a time to ensure thoroughness, then send them on their way

But what we saw was umming and ahhing, flip flopping, twisting and turning, while Covid was laughing at all that and jumping ship from cruise ships and leaking out from airports, consequently spreading around

"COVID triggered the pathogenic response in
all of us
where the virus became an issue
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Not me, I got out of the big city seven years ago, I could tell something like this could happen, perhaps not Covid, but certainly salmonella and massive traffic congestion caused by road accidents, road rage and ethnic crime, all of which has got worse since I left.

Covid didn't surprise me though, and it will teach city folk a lesson, the benevolent politicians you willingly vote for, can also turn against you, getting your head slammed on a hard floor and fining the hell out of you, all because the benevolent politicians stuff up, but find it difficult to blame themselves, so their next instinct is to crucify anything walking on two legs


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Reply #128 - Oct 11th, 2021 at 10:38am
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 11th, 2021 at 10:34am:
The main reason for their panic was that the economy would suffer

Isn't the health of the economy the primary metric by which all politicians are judged?
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Reply #129 - Oct 11th, 2021 at 10:40am
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 11th, 2021 at 10:34am:
But what we saw was umming and ahhing, flip flopping, twisting and turning, while Covid was laughing at all that and jumping ship from cruise ships and leaking out from airports, consequently spreading around

Yes, the early mishandling of the pandemic indicated confusion even at the highest level of how to manage the impending disaster...

It's nearly always the 'cock-up' theory than a conspiracy theory.
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Reply #130 - Oct 11th, 2021 at 10:43am
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 11th, 2021 at 10:40am:
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 11th, 2021 at 10:34am:
But what we saw was umming and ahhing, flip flopping, twisting and turning, while Covid was laughing at all that and jumping ship from cruise ships and leaking out from airports, consequently spreading around

Yes, the early mishandling
and lies
of the pandemic indicated confusion even at the highest level of how to manage the impending disaster...

It's nearly always the 'cock-up' theory than a conspiracy theory.


There, I fixed it up for you  Smiley
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Reply #131 - Oct 11th, 2021 at 10:45am
 
Sophia wrote on Oct 11th, 2021 at 10:43am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 11th, 2021 at 10:40am:
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 11th, 2021 at 10:34am:
But what we saw was umming and ahhing, flip flopping, twisting and turning, while Covid was laughing at all that and jumping ship from cruise ships and leaking out from airports, consequently spreading around

Yes, the early mishandling
and lies
of the pandemic indicated confusion even at the highest level of how to manage the impending disaster...

It's nearly always the 'cock-up' theory than a conspiracy theory.


There, I fixed it up for you  Smiley

Please, define the lies such that they're not stabs in the dark.
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Reply #132 - Oct 11th, 2021 at 11:57am
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 11th, 2021 at 10:45am:
Sophia wrote on Oct 11th, 2021 at 10:43am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 11th, 2021 at 10:40am:
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 11th, 2021 at 10:34am:
But what we saw was umming and ahhing, flip flopping, twisting and turning, while Covid was laughing at all that and jumping ship from cruise ships and leaking out from airports, consequently spreading around

Yes, the early mishandling
and lies
of the pandemic indicated confusion even at the highest level of how to manage the impending disaster...

It's nearly always the 'cock-up' theory than a conspiracy theory.


There, I fixed it up for you  Smiley

Please, define the lies such that they're not stabs in the dark.


Shocked Kiss
Where to begin? From the very start? Wuhan wet market/lab/CCP/Dr.Li/RubyPrincess/HanDan refusing AFD then denying he refused them? Oh that’s right, he can’t recall/remember his lies.
Well that’s settled that then.



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Reply #133 - Oct 11th, 2021 at 12:00pm
 
Sophia wrote on Oct 11th, 2021 at 11:57am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 11th, 2021 at 10:45am:
Sophia wrote on Oct 11th, 2021 at 10:43am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 11th, 2021 at 10:40am:
Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 11th, 2021 at 10:34am:
But what we saw was umming and ahhing, flip flopping, twisting and turning, while Covid was laughing at all that and jumping ship from cruise ships and leaking out from airports, consequently spreading around

Yes, the early mishandling
and lies
of the pandemic indicated confusion even at the highest level of how to manage the impending disaster...

It's nearly always the 'cock-up' theory than a conspiracy theory.


There, I fixed it up for you  Smiley

Please, define the lies such that they're not stabs in the dark.


Shocked Kiss
Where to begin? From the very start? Wuhan wet market/lab/CCP/Dr.Li/RubyPrincess/HanDan refusing AFD then denying he refused them? Oh that’s right, he can’t recall/remember his lies.
Well that’s settled that then.




Yes, that's true of the Chinese cartel and increasingly Peter Daszak.


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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #134 - Oct 11th, 2021 at 3:49pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 10th, 2021 at 8:34pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 10th, 2021 at 8:30pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 10th, 2021 at 8:29pm:
Nobody cares for your bullshit little pecca. You made a bet with BIAS that you would leave this forum if Trump beat Hillary. When are you going to be a man and honour your bet with BIAS or are you just a filthy liar?


Deflection, much?


It's not a deflection i don't have time for people with no integrity and never honour their bets.

I usually scroll over his bullshit it's never worth reading.




yeh groggary stop spruiking big pharma junk on this forum because you shouldn't be here to begin with Sad
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