aquascoot wrote on Oct 4^th, 2021 at 1:19pm:

Are you expecting that the Australian armed services will be gassing the unvaccinated?

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 4^th, 2021 at 2:44pm:

There is clear evidence that vaccination greatly reduces the effects of the virus, (where it doesn't prevent infection altogether), to the point that the infected do not require hospitalisation or medical attention beyond what can be self-administered.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 4^th, 2021 at 2:04pm:



no but i would expect that the politicians will try to use this as spin.

the media in melbourne are locked out of reporting on police actions.

there is an exclusion zone.

o media helicopters allowed to film police

thats never happened before.

we could see schools refuse to allow unvaccinated kids into schools

this is happening right now in california

then its quite easy to send in childrens services and take the kids off the parents

you could use health or education breaches to do that.

how many of the demonstrators have the cash to pay 10,000 dollar fines.

the state can incarcerate them

its a bit over the top for what is a personal health choice.

and dont give me this crap about vaccinated people not being a threat.

vaccinated people carry the virus and spread it around.

that argument is not going to fly

aquascoot wrote on Oct 4^th, 2021 at 3:17pm:

It's true that full vaccination does not necessarily prevent infection (while it greatly reduces the likelihood of infection it does not eliminate the possibility of infection) nor the possibility of transmission.

But it's clear that the severe effects of infection are greatly reduced among the fully vaccinated such that the infected are many times more likely to be able to manage the infection without hospitalisation.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 4^th, 2021 at 2:04pm:


They're already using tear gas and rubber bullets on anti lockdown protestors under Dictator Dan in Victoria.

Many of these anti lockdown protestors were vaccinated there were no exemptions given to them with lockdown.

Gordon wrote on Oct 4^th, 2021 at 1:38pm:


These vaccines don't prevent you from getting infected they only help you fight infection.

Vaccinated people still get infected and transmit this virus so vaccine passports are an expensive waste of time that achieve nothing apart from giving a perception the government is doing something.

Unvaccinated worker - When they get infected they will have symptoms sniffles cough etc you will notice this if they were too stupid to have a sickie. You tell them to get tested don't come back until you're clear within 14 days they will be recovering or going to hospital. By sending them away they can't infect other workers.

Vaccinated worker - When they get infected if asymptomatic nobody will be aware they're infected and spreading this virus to everyone else at work which means they're a greater danger to everyone else. They don't go home for 14 days like unvaccinated people so they have far greater potential to spread virus in greater numbers.

We have rapid antigen testing becoming available results in 15 minutes. A negative test would be far better than any useless vaccine passport which does nothing.

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Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 4^th, 2021 at 9:11pm:

The vaccines don't necessarily stop you getting infected.

But it's clear that the severe effects of infection are greatly reduced among the fully vaccinated such that the infected are many times more likely to be able to manage the infection without hospitalisation.

Australia has imposed strict lockdown measures that have accounted for lower incidence of infection and spread. The US provides more clear evidence (particularly in the southern states where anti-vaxx became a 'just-add-water' religion) that vaccines have been highly effective in preventing COVID spread and/or severity of infection.