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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #150 - Oct 12^th, 2021 at 4:50pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 4:42pm:

I just heard that many places are not checking in NSW for customers being double vaxxed -
Woolies -

Essential shopping is not checked places like woolies and coles those who are only single vaxxed or not vaxxed need to buy food.

Non essential shopping like BigW Kmart etc are checking. Did some shopping today not many shops checking anything.

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #151 - Oct 12^th, 2021 at 4:53pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 4:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 4:42pm:

I just heard that many places are not checking in NSW for customers being double vaxxed -
Woolies -

Essential shopping is not checked places like woolies and coles those who are only single vaxxed or not vaxxed need to buy food.

Non essential shopping like BigW Kmart etc are checking. Did some shopping today not many shops checking anything.

Who is going to do the checking?
Someone's little daughter telling big rugby players
covered in tattoos that they can't enter?

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #152 - Oct 12^th, 2021 at 9:47pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 4:42pm:

I just heard that many places are not checking in NSW for customers being double vaxxed -
Woolies -

the experience at night clubs is well known.
People who get told they can't enter the night club
start bashing the security guards -
it happens every day.
Who wants to stand at the door of Woolworth's and get bashed to a pulp
for the minimum wage?
The stupid idiots making the legislation never thought of that.

They conned the punters into getting a double jab knowing they could never police it Cheesy

LOL

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #153 - Oct 12^th, 2021 at 10:38pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 4:42pm:

I just heard that many places are not checking in NSW for customers being double vaxxed -

Woolies -

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 4:50pm:

Essential shopping is not checked places like woolies and coles those who are only single vaxxed or not vaxxed need to buy food.

Non essential shopping like BigW Kmart etc are checking. Did some shopping today not many shops checking anything.

You mean, that ['today'] even though i am not VAXXED, i can still buy food ! Tongue

Thank you master [gov.], for allowing me to buy and eat food.

/sarc off

Q.
How long can i expect this gov. beneficence to continue ?

WWW search....

"Why do the protected need to be protected from the unprotected,
by forcing the unprotected, to use the protection that didn't protect the protected in the first place?"

- Retired RN [at a public hearing, in Calif. ?]

If i knew [if i had some confidence] that
1/ the COVID vaccine 'worked', and
2/ [i had some confidence] that the COVID vaccine would not harm me,
i probably would have been vaxxed by now.

But i do not have that confidence [in what i am being told, the assurances, about the COVID vaccines].

There are too many inconsistencies, in the progressive feed of information we are being given [about the COVID vaccines], imo.

e.g.
We are being told, that we ought to get vaccinated, TO HELP, TO PROTECT THOSE AROUND US.

But we are learning that CDC data is showing that there is.....

WWW search.....

No Significant Difference in Viral Load Between Vaccinated and Unvaccinated

.

FACT;
Many, many people have already been 'fully vaccinated' with these supposed, COVID 'vaccines'.

QUESTION;
Why aren't we seeing those persons who have been vaccinated,
being protected from the COVID virus,
by these supposed COVID vaccines ?

It is a reasonable question, imo !

If 'VACCINE' suppliers had a real 'COVID VACCINE', then that real 'COVID VACCINE',
would be able to protect 'VACCINATED' people from the COVID VIRUS.

That, is what a 'COVID VACCINE' would be able to do.

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From the Oxford Dictionary.....

vaccinate

immunise

immune

------ >

Dictionary;
vaccinate = = treat with a vaccine to produce immunity against a disease.

Dictionary;
immunise = = make immune to infection, typically by inoculation.

Dictionary;
immune = =
1 resistant to a particular infection owing to the presence of specific antibodies or sensitized white blood cells.
2 not susceptible.

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #154 - Oct 12^th, 2021 at 11:01pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 9:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 4:42pm:

I just heard that many places are not checking in NSW for customers being double vaxxed -
Woolies -

the experience at night clubs is well known.
People who get told they can't enter the night club
start bashing the security guards -
it happens every day.
Who wants to stand at the door of Woolworth's and get bashed to a pulp
for the minimum wage?
The stupid idiots making the legislation never thought of that.

They conned the punters into getting a double jab knowing they could never police it Cheesy

LOL

They'd like shop assistants to stand at the door and
police it free of charge.
Will the Govt. provide compensation for all those assistants:
maimed,
beaten up
or killed

by aggressive customers?

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #155 - Oct 13^th, 2021 at 2:36pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 4:53pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 4:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 4:42pm:

I just heard that many places are not checking in NSW for customers being double vaxxed -
Woolies -

Essential shopping is not checked places like woolies and coles those who are only single vaxxed or not vaxxed need to buy food.

Non essential shopping like BigW Kmart etc are checking. Did some shopping today not many shops checking anything.

Who is going to do the checking?
Someone's little daughter telling big rugby players
covered in tattoos that they can't enter?

How about privacy act 1988 section 16 B ?

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #156 - Oct 14^th, 2021 at 8:36am

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 11:01pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 9:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 4:42pm:

I just heard that many places are not checking in NSW for customers being double vaxxed -
Woolies -

the experience at night clubs is well known.
People who get told they can't enter the night club
start bashing the security guards -
it happens every day.
Who wants to stand at the door of Woolworth's and get bashed to a pulp
for the minimum wage?
The stupid idiots making the legislation never thought of that.

They conned the punters into getting a double jab knowing they could never police it Cheesy

LOL

They'd like shop assistants to stand at the door and
police it free of charge.
Will the Govt. provide compensation for all those assistants:
maimed,
beaten up
or killed

by aggressive customers?

So because people don't want to follow the rules, there should be no rules?

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #157 - Oct 14^th, 2021 at 9:29am

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 11:01pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 9:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 4:42pm:

I just heard that many places are not checking in NSW for customers being double vaxxed -
Woolies -

the experience at night clubs is well known.
People who get told they can't enter the night club
start bashing the security guards -
it happens every day.
Who wants to stand at the door of Woolworth's and get bashed to a pulp
for the minimum wage?
The stupid idiots making the legislation never thought of that.

They conned the punters into getting a double jab knowing they could never police it Cheesy

LOL

They'd like shop assistants to stand at the door and
police it free of charge.
Will the Govt. provide compensation for all those assistants:
maimed,
beaten up
or killed

by aggressive customers?

Well, if a shop assistant is maimed, beaten up and killed then the perpetrator will be arrested, and then given a fair trial. Once he is found guilty, he will be liable for criminal and civil penalties. This is no different than the ticket verifiers at parks and pools. And I suspect this process will soon become automated.

And plus if you have a rugby sized man murdering a shop assistant for checking vaccine status, then one would expect that the murderer have some serious mental health issues.

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John_Taverner Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2212 Gender:	Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people Reply #158 - Oct 14^th, 2021 at 9:37am It's a short term thing. Only three more days to 80% fully vaccinated (16+) in NSW. You can wait 3 days for your soy latte or whatever, and then you'll have every opportunity to become infected.
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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #159 - Oct 14^th, 2021 at 9:42am

tickleandrose wrote on Oct 14^th, 2021 at 9:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 11:01pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 9:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 4:42pm:

I just heard that many places are not checking in NSW for customers being double vaxxed -
Woolies -

the experience at night clubs is well known.
People who get told they can't enter the night club
start bashing the security guards -
it happens every day.
Who wants to stand at the door of Woolworth's and get bashed to a pulp
for the minimum wage?
The stupid idiots making the legislation never thought of that.

They conned the punters into getting a double jab knowing they could never police it Cheesy

LOL

They'd like shop assistants to stand at the door and
police it free of charge.
Will the Govt. provide compensation for all those assistants:
maimed,
beaten up
or killed

by aggressive customers?

Well, if a shop assistant is maimed, beaten up and killed then the perpetrator will be arrested, and then given a fair trial. Once he is found guilty, he will be liable for criminal and civil penalties. This is no different than the ticket verifiers at parks and pools. And I suspect this process will soon become automated.

And plus if you have a rugby sized man murdering a shop assistant for checking vaccine status, then one would expect that the murderer have some serious mental health issues.

We're also glossing over the fact that it's almost expected and acceptable and anti-maskers/vaxxers/covid deniers are just going to be violent with staff...

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #160 - Oct 22^nd, 2021 at 11:20pm

"the unvaccinated that catch the virus are more likely to be at home in bed with symptoms, while the vaccinated that catch the virus are more likely to have no symptoms and hence continue their daily routine unknowingly spreading the virus"

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Study Destroys Justification for Vaccine Mandates

CDC and State Health Department scientists find similar or higher viral load of Covid-19 virus among the vaccinated as compared to the unvaccinated

https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/study-destroys-justification-for

PCR test shows no difference with viral load with infected people.

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #161 - Oct 23^rd, 2021 at 3:38pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 3:44pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 9:31am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 5:28pm:

nail is quite right to criticise big pharma.

Perhaps he should learn to present his case in a sane manner ?

PRESENTLY , he's just another
NUT-JOB
of the
"believe ONE conspiracy theory, believe them ALL"
variety

I have a theory about
"big pharma"
as WELL
They're not charities, as many seem to think
But profit making companies, whose priorities are to bring
the highest return on investment to share-holders

I suspect that banks are not charities, EITHER

And you're just in denial because you were gullible and stupid enough to take your medical advice from dimwit politicians and sports celebrities Cheesy

LOL

I take
medical advice
from
medical authorities

Not from
shock-jocks
,
tabloid bloggers
or i
nternet vloggers
and
bitchuters

And ALSO note ...
I don't accept your memes
- as evidence of ANYTHING

Regardless of how many and demanted "
LOL
"'s you may use to try and support them

And a big
DITTO
to the equally farcical
Baronvonrort
and
Yadda
and
THEIR memes

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #162 - Oct 24^th, 2022 at 4:30pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 4^th, 2021 at 12:34pm:

We have many in this forum who believe we should discriminate against unvaccinated people which shows their ignorance and how nasty they are.

There are many reasons why people aren't vaccinated ranging from availability medical reasons and personal choice.

Vaccine passports will achieve nothing they give the perception our leaders are doing something to help yet it's expensive can't work and blatant discrimination.

We have those who say listen to the scientists follow the science yet the vast majority of the people saying that are totally ignorant about science.

With science if something is proved to be wrong it must be discarded thrown in the rubbish because it's bullshit. Science deals with the truth it discards old ideas that are proven to be wrong.

There is zero zip zilch evidence to support the irrational idiocy unvaccinated people are a danger to anyone else. The vaccines only protect those vaccinated from getting seriously ill they do not prevent transmission from vaccinated people. Anyone who claims the kung flu vaccine prevents transmission of virus is a liar and a science denier.

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Fully vaccinated people who get a breakthrough infection can transmit the virus, CDC director says

August 5, 2021

Fully vaccinated people who get a breakthrough infection can pass it on, US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said Thursday.

“Our vaccines are working exceptionally well,” Walensky told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer in reference to fully vaccinated people who get breakthrough infections. “They continue to work well for Delta, with regard to severe illness and death – they prevent it.But what they can't do anymore is prevent transmission.”

CDC provided data last week that showed how fully vaccinated people who get a breakthrough infection can carry essentially that same amount of virus as an unvaccinated person, allowing them to transmit the virus just like an unvaccinated person can.

That is why the CDC is recommending even vaccinated people wear masks indoors again, Walensky said.

https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-vaccine-updates-08-05-...

Breakthrough infections are very common the vaccines don't stop you from getting infected they only train your immune system to fight this virus.

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How the vaccines work

These vaccines will protect you from getting severely ill or dying if you get COVID-19.

The vaccines train your immune system to recognise and clear out the virus, before it makes you seriously ill. Your body's immune system builds this protection over time. You are fully protected 7 to 14 days after your second dose.

The virus that causes COVID-19 (called SARS-CoV-2) has spikes of protein on each viral particle. These spike proteins allow the virus to attach to cells and cause disease.

The vaccines help the body to:

recognise these spike proteins as a threat
fight the coronavirus that has these proteins.
https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/approved-va...

If you fear unvaccinated people you have an irrational fear.

The real experts were saying these non sterilising vaccines would do nothing to stop transmission of Kung Flu.
History shows these people were right.

Politicians from both sides lied to us about vaccine mandates should they be held accountable for their lies and misinformation which led to vaccine Nazis discriminating against those who followed the real science

Vaccine mandates were another con from our political leaders.

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18749 Gender:	Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people Reply #163 - Oct 24^th, 2022 at 4:56pm Quote: This was misinformation. https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1580101346652753920?cxt=HHwWgMDUxbLz0u0... 2 min 20 seconds of lies from Gates,Fauci,Biden Rachel Mad cow and the CDC on these vaccines. History has shown they were all wrong yet many idiots still believe their lies.
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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #164 - Oct 31^st, 2022 at 9:06am

Speaking of discrimination (or the fight against it to be more accurate)...

Sam Connor - Human and Disability Rights Activist. You may have seen her interviewed on TV, saw her on The Project on Channel 10 recently.

https://mobile.twitter.com/criprights/status/1586725361764954112

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Dear @AlboMP
, @billshortenmp
, @Mark_Butler_MP
and JJ Frewen

We are out of patience.

Our people are trapped in our homes, unable to work, study, be part of Australian life because of the COVID pandemic.

We call upon you to meet with us this week to urgently address this issue.

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2/ And Bill, you know that cool thing we do every so often when disabled people lose it & converge upon Parliament with great fervour and commitment to change?

Last time, we did not organise. This time, we are.

Please call any member of the Diva group and let us know what day.

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3/ It would be an unfortunate thing if we were forced to converge upon Parliament, because the media will love it.

It would be a more unfortunate thing if we were to fall ill from COVID, or, God forbid, die, because the media would love that even more.

We want action. Now.

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4/ We are just getting started. And please do not underestimate the collective organising of tens of thousands of disabled people, family members and those health care workers who are sick to their back teeth of the lack of action on COVID.

#CovidIsNotOver. This week. Thank you.

YOU GO, GIRL!!! About time we saw something like this happen.

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