Forum

 
  Back to OzPolitic.com   Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register
  Forum Home Album HelpSearch Recent Rules LoginRegister  
 

Pages: 1 ... 12 13 14 15 
Send Topic Print
Discrimination with unvaccinated people (Read 8581 times)
ShellShilo
Senior Member
****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 400
Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #195 - Nov 1st, 2022 at 4:25pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Nov 1st, 2022 at 5:50am:
Carl D wrote on Oct 31st, 2022 at 11:18pm:
And the most important question of all still goes unanswered:

Why do people like Sir Nail and Reggie seem to be so afraid of having their Covid vaccinations...


I think both Sir Lastnail and Reggie are simply unable to comprehend
the science and the qualified medical advice that proves COVID vaccines
have saved millions of lives globally.

Their negative arguments—such as they are!—amount to nothing more
than third party hearsay, simply parroting the dozens of conspiracy sites
out there in cyberspace.

It's also noticeable that neither offers any reputable, relevant input, other
than repeated puerile insults directed at those who've done their due
diligence.  Reggie recently posted a couple of walls of text he erroneously
believed supported his anti-vaxxer position, but without being able to
correctly interpret the data therein.

And looking back at the amount of vitriol directed at me by Reggie makes
me wonder why he's so aggravated by the perfectly reasonable vaccination
decisions made by others who accept the science. 

After all, we—all of us—have the right to make our own decisions about our
own health and/or what we put into our bodies.  I don't really care if Reggie
or Sir Lastnail reject the COVID vaccines; ultimately that's their choice.  But
for either to deny my choice cannot be considered acceptable.

I also note that several times Reggie has expressed the view that I'm going
to die, or that he hopes I die because of my vaccine status.  Apart from being
offensive, this sounds to me like the mouthings of a petulant little kid, denied
a lolly at the checkout counter.

I can't even guess why Sir Lastnail and Reggie are obviously so afraid of
getting vaccinated.  Primarily I think its an ignorance of accredited science,
or an unfounded belief in conspiracy theories.  As I've said before, it could
also be an inherent fear of needles which has resulted from some childhood
trauma.

It's also of interest that neither has been confident enough to debate my previously
posted infographic proving unequivocally that COVID vaccines work as claimed:

And I'm betting in advance that Reggie will simply dismiss it, and instead direct
yet another flood of childish insults towards me as some sort of response.

            Roll Eyes



Lets take a look at the graph you posited. Firstly the graph was posted by the KPC News.com. It only represents the accumulated totals of one state(Indiana) in the US, on August 15th, 2021(by Steve Garbacz  -Exe. Editor). This would have been 8 months after vaccines were being introduced in the US. During this time, the unvaccinated population would have still been much larger than the vaccinated population.

The accumulated death total from the unvaccinated in Indiana at that time, represents only 0.08% of the state's population. And, the vaccinated death totals represents only 0.001% of the state's population. This also represents a mortality rate among the unvaccinated of 2.0%. And, 1.2% among the vaccinated population comparatively. This statistical difference of 0.8% is NOT worth this level of hype or concern.

I also noticed that the 98%+ survival rate is again not mentioned. Nor, are the demographics and other contributing comorbidities mentioned. No context or perspective s at all. Just deaths and cases only.

This data is well over a year old, and is from another country. It has no relevance in Australia today. Since Australia is around 95% vaccinated, intuition and commonsense tells us, that it is more likely that more people in the vaccinated population would die with/from Covid-19, than people in the unvaccinated population. And, this is exactly what we are seeing consistently every day.

Ironically, when the vaccinated population was small, and the numbers dying were small(compared to the larger population of unvaccinated), these same numbers were used to justify being vaccinated.

But now that the vaccinated population is much larger than the unvaccinated population, all of the statistical fallacies, omissions, and clever wordings, are being used to save the media's and government's narrative and integrity. And, to justify vaccinating people ad infinitum.

Viruses don't choose between who is vaccinated, and who isn't. Vaccines CAN make the symptoms of this virus more manageable. But, so could a trip to the Chemist.

At the end of the day, all the vaccines in the world won't help you if your immune system is failing, compromised, or is over/under performing. Remember without an immune system all vaccines are useless. And, you would certainly die from just about anything that infects you. But, without any vaccines, the immune system will still continue fighting every pathogen and antigens that enters our body. How many animals in the wild are vaccinated?

Type in exactly, 

"By the numbers: Vaccinated vs unvaccinated kpc news.com" 


    
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Sir lastnail
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 30096
Gender: male
Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #196 - Nov 1st, 2022 at 4:40pm
 
There is no science with these vaccines. It's nothing more than witchcraft forced upon the populations in order to profit from.

It is spelled out here which dumb and dumber refuse to watch. Sad

https://www.bitchute.com/video/qeUKRDezjExC/
Back to top
 

In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
IP Logged
 
Carl D
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 9627
Rivervale, Perth
Gender: male
Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #197 - Nov 1st, 2022 at 5:20pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 1st, 2022 at 4:40pm:
There is no science with these vaccines. It's nothing more than witchcraft forced upon the populations in order to profit from.

It is spelled out here which dumb and dumber refuse to watch. Sad

https://www.bitchute.com/video/qeUKRDezjExC/


This really gets more and more hilarious.

Ridicules Reuters Fact Check then keeps posting BitChute videos.

Stop it! Please! My sides are aching from laughter.  Grin
Back to top
 

** Repeat Covid infections exercise our immune system in the same way that repeat concussions exercise our brain **
 
IP Logged
 
ShellShilo
Senior Member
****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 400
Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #198 - Nov 1st, 2022 at 6:13pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Nov 1st, 2022 at 6:17am:
ShellShilo wrote on Nov 1st, 2022 at 1:04am:
Carl D wrote on Oct 31st, 2022 at 11:18pm:
And the most important question of all still goes unanswered:

Why do people like Sir Nail and Reggie seem to be so afraid of having their Covid vaccinations?

Is it just the Covid vaccinations or are they afraid of all vaccinations?

Some of us would really like to know.


I think that what they're saying is, that at a 98%+ survival rate(vaccinated or not), having a vaccine is just not necessary for them. I think that they are also  saying, that being vaccinated is just an unnecessary risk for adverse events. And finally, I think they're saying, that their immune system does not need help from lab-assembled, immune-created designer antibodies.

I also seriously doubt that they are just vaccine-phobic.


I tend to agree with your assessment Shell.  I guess my response would be
that it's perfectly okay for them to hold those personal views of the pandemic,
but what I DO object to is their vehement, aggressive attacks on people who've
also made a personal choice to accept what the scientists say, and be vaccinated.

It's impossible, without knowing their medical history, to say one way or the
other if they're vaccine-phobic.  Although it's a probability I'm leaning toward.
Unlike you—as an antivaxxer—they've not presented any substantial, personally
researched, peer-reviewed data supporting their stance.  They've just resorted
to insulting those of us who've made the choice to be vaccinated.  Which makes
for a pretty feeble argument.

Ad hominem attacks only serve to weaken the
validity of the arguments of those using them.


I totally agree with this. It is unfortunate that for men, the greatest insult you can impart, is when you question his level of intelligence. He will defend to the death that he is NOT an idiot. This will end any chance of an impartial or an objective discussion. He will never change his mind, and will dismiss anything that you can deposit. So, this strategy is always self-defeating.

You only attack or ridicule people when you feel threatened by them physically, or by their beliefs. Since you are not here physically, and I am NOT threatened by your beliefs, I have no reason to attack you personally.   

To mount any argument based only on ad Homs and personal attacks(or inferences), is self-defeating what you want to achieve. Namely, to impart knowledge. It is harder to MAKE you change your mind, then it is to  LET you change your mind. Unless, WINNING was the only real motive/reason for the discourse.

I find it less threatening, and more effective to simply present facts, that are consistent with the logic. And, what people decide for themselves is their business, not mine. Remember, we're all here to exchange our ideas and opinions. It could be possible that I am 100% wrong about my claims. But you will have to bring your A-game to show this. I do take the time to  research all my posts thoroughly. It is one thing to cite the science. But it is another to actually understand the science.

Here in lies the problem. Many people just don't understand well enough the science that they are citing. So, they can't be more skeptical/critical about what they are citing. Or, even understand what the science they're citing is NOT saying.   

Back to top
« Last Edit: Nov 1st, 2022 at 10:36pm by ShellShilo »  
 
IP Logged
 
AusGeoff
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Sage of Gippsland

Posts: 6002
Victoria
Gender: male
Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #199 - Nov 3rd, 2022 at 12:03pm
 
Carl D wrote on Nov 1st, 2022 at 5:20pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 1st, 2022 at 4:40pm:
There is no science with these vaccines. It's nothing more than witchcraft forced upon the populations in order to profit from.

It is spelled out here which dumb and dumber refuse to watch. Sad

https://www.bitchute.com/video/qeUKRDezjExC/


This really gets more and more hilarious.

Ridicules Reuters Fact Check then keeps posting BitChute videos.

Stop it! Please! My sides are aching from laughter.  Grin

Yes, I too noted Sir Lastnail's reliance on the bullshit posted on BitChute.

BitChute is known for hosting far-right individuals, conspiracy theorists,
and hate speech. The Southern Poverty Law Center wrote that the site
hosts "hate-fuelled material", the Anti-Defamation League wrote that
"BitChute has become a hotbed for violent, conspiratorial and hate-filled
video propaganda, and a recruiting ground for extremists".

Fact checking site Bellingcat wrote that the platform was "rife with racism
and hate speech". According to a 2020 report from anti-extremism group
Hope not Hate, BitChute "actively promotes" content which was removed
from other platforms as hate speech.

Hope not Hate also documented videos hosted on BitChute supporting or
produced by terrorist groups, including ISIS and the neo-Nazi groups
National Action and Atomwaffen Division.

The far-right conspiracy theory channel, Alex Jones'  InfoWars migrated to
BitChute after being banned by YouTube three years ago.

—Which means I can fully understand why Sir Lastnail cites it so often LOL.




Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Captain Caveman
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 6211
Gender: male
Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #200 - Nov 3rd, 2022 at 1:00pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Nov 3rd, 2022 at 12:03pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 1st, 2022 at 5:20pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 1st, 2022 at 4:40pm:
There is no science with these vaccines. It's nothing more than witchcraft forced upon the populations in order to profit from.

It is spelled out here which dumb and dumber refuse to watch. Sad

https://www.bitchute.com/video/qeUKRDezjExC/


This really gets more and more hilarious.

Ridicules Reuters Fact Check then keeps posting BitChute videos.

Stop it! Please! My sides are aching from laughter.  Grin

Yes, I too noted Sir Lastnail's reliance on the bullshit posted on BitChute.

BitChute is known for hosting far-right individuals, conspiracy theorists,
and hate speech. The Southern Poverty Law Center wrote that the site
hosts "hate-fuelled material", the Anti-Defamation League wrote that
"BitChute has become a hotbed for violent, conspiratorial and hate-filled
video propaganda, and a recruiting ground for extremists".

Fact checking site Bellingcat wrote that the platform was "rife with racism
and hate speech". According to a 2020 report from anti-extremism group
Hope not Hate, BitChute "actively promotes" content which was removed
from other platforms as hate speech.

Hope not Hate also documented videos hosted on BitChute supporting or
produced by terrorist groups, including ISIS and the neo-Nazi groups
National Action and Atomwaffen Division.

The far-right conspiracy theory channel, Alex Jones'  InfoWars migrated to
BitChute after being banned by YouTube three years ago.

—Which means I can fully understand why Sir Lastnail cites it so often LOL.






The funniest part is that you lot shytecan bitchute but cannot debate the actual topic.
If you had half a brain then you'd understand how and why bitchute started.

Who decides what's truth anymore?
Big tech is who... Wink
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
greggerypeccary
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 139221
Gender: male
Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #201 - Nov 3rd, 2022 at 1:52pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Nov 3rd, 2022 at 12:03pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 1st, 2022 at 5:20pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 1st, 2022 at 4:40pm:
There is no science with these vaccines. It's nothing more than witchcraft forced upon the populations in order to profit from.

It is spelled out here which dumb and dumber refuse to watch. Sad

https://www.bitchute.com/video/qeUKRDezjExC/


This really gets more and more hilarious.

Ridicules Reuters Fact Check then keeps posting BitChute videos.

Stop it! Please! My sides are aching from laughter.  Grin

Yes, I too noted Sir Lastnail's reliance on the bullshit posted on BitChute.

BitChute is known for hosting far-right individuals, conspiracy theorists,
and hate speech. The Southern Poverty Law Center wrote that the site
hosts "hate-fuelled material", the Anti-Defamation League wrote that
"BitChute has become a hotbed for violent, conspiratorial and hate-filled
video propaganda, and a recruiting ground for extremists".

Fact checking site Bellingcat wrote that the platform was "rife with racism
and hate speech". According to a 2020 report from anti-extremism group
Hope not Hate, BitChute "actively promotes" content which was removed
from other platforms as hate speech.

Hope not Hate also documented videos hosted on BitChute supporting or
produced by terrorist groups, including ISIS and the neo-Nazi groups
National Action and Atomwaffen Division.

The far-right conspiracy theory channel, Alex Jones'  InfoWars migrated to
BitChute after being banned by YouTube three years ago.

—Which means I can fully understand why Sir Lastnail cites it so often LOL.






He actually believes it's a legitimate news site   Grin
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Captain Caveman
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 6211
Gender: male
Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #202 - Nov 3rd, 2022 at 4:16pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 3rd, 2022 at 1:00pm:
AusGeoff wrote on Nov 3rd, 2022 at 12:03pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 1st, 2022 at 5:20pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 1st, 2022 at 4:40pm:
There is no science with these vaccines. It's nothing more than witchcraft forced upon the populations in order to profit from.

It is spelled out here which dumb and dumber refuse to watch. Sad

https://www.bitchute.com/video/qeUKRDezjExC/


This really gets more and more hilarious.

Ridicules Reuters Fact Check then keeps posting BitChute videos.

Stop it! Please! My sides are aching from laughter.  Grin

Yes, I too noted Sir Lastnail's reliance on the bullshit posted on BitChute.

BitChute is known for hosting far-right individuals, conspiracy theorists,
and hate speech. The Southern Poverty Law Center wrote that the site
hosts "hate-fuelled material", the Anti-Defamation League wrote that
"BitChute has become a hotbed for violent, conspiratorial and hate-filled
video propaganda, and a recruiting ground for extremists".

Fact checking site Bellingcat wrote that the platform was "rife with racism
and hate speech". According to a 2020 report from anti-extremism group
Hope not Hate, BitChute "actively promotes" content which was removed
from other platforms as hate speech.

Hope not Hate also documented videos hosted on BitChute supporting or
produced by terrorist groups, including ISIS and the neo-Nazi groups
National Action and Atomwaffen Division.

The far-right conspiracy theory channel, Alex Jones'  InfoWars migrated to
BitChute after being banned by YouTube three years ago.

—Which means I can fully understand why Sir Lastnail cites it so often LOL.






The funniest part is that you lot shytecan bitchute but cannot debate the actual topic.
If you had half a brain then you'd understand how and why bitchute started.

Who decides what's truth anymore?
Big tech is who... Wink

....
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Sir lastnail
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 30096
Gender: male
Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #203 - Nov 4th, 2022 at 7:18pm
 
Carl D wrote on Nov 1st, 2022 at 5:20pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 1st, 2022 at 4:40pm:
There is no science with these vaccines. It's nothing more than witchcraft forced upon the populations in order to profit from.

It is spelled out here which dumb and dumber refuse to watch. Sad

https://www.bitchute.com/video/qeUKRDezjExC/


This really gets more and more hilarious.

Ridicules Reuters Fact Check then keeps posting BitChute videos.

Stop it! Please! My sides are aching from laughter.  Grin


Bitchute is just a video streaming service. They don't create the content nor police it. Why is it such a hard concept for you lot to understand ??
Back to top
 

In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
IP Logged
 
greggerypeccary
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 139221
Gender: male
Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #204 - Nov 4th, 2022 at 7:46pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 4th, 2022 at 7:18pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 1st, 2022 at 5:20pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 1st, 2022 at 4:40pm:
There is no science with these vaccines. It's nothing more than witchcraft forced upon the populations in order to profit from.

It is spelled out here which dumb and dumber refuse to watch. Sad

https://www.bitchute.com/video/qeUKRDezjExC/


This really gets more and more hilarious.

Ridicules Reuters Fact Check then keeps posting BitChute videos.

Stop it! Please! My sides are aching from laughter.  Grin


Bitchute is just a video streaming service.



Sure.

And Nazis are just people in uniforms.

Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Sir lastnail
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 30096
Gender: male
Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #205 - Nov 4th, 2022 at 8:10pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2022 at 7:46pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 4th, 2022 at 7:18pm:
Carl D wrote on Nov 1st, 2022 at 5:20pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 1st, 2022 at 4:40pm:
There is no science with these vaccines. It's nothing more than witchcraft forced upon the populations in order to profit from.

It is spelled out here which dumb and dumber refuse to watch. Sad

https://www.bitchute.com/video/qeUKRDezjExC/


This really gets more and more hilarious.

Ridicules Reuters Fact Check then keeps posting BitChute videos.

Stop it! Please! My sides are aching from laughter.  Grin


Bitchute is just a video streaming service.



Sure.

And Nazis are just people in uniforms.



Then watch it here f.ckarse https://www.therealanthonyfaucimovie.com/viewing/

Your excuse now ??
Back to top
 

In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
IP Logged
 
Baronvonrort
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 18743
Gender: male
Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #206 - Nov 5th, 2022 at 3:42pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Nov 1st, 2022 at 5:50am:
It's also of interest that neither has been confident enough to debate my previously
posted infographic proving unequivocally that COVID vaccines work as claimed:




Is this a credible source for old boomers?

Quote:
COVID-19 Mortality in Australia, Deaths registered to 31 July 2021


73.4% of people who died from COVID-19 had pre-existing chronic conditions certified on the death certificate.

COVID-19 mortality by age and sex

The median age for those who died from COVID-19 was 86.9 years (85.2 years for males, 88.4 years for females).

Case fatality rate

The graph below shows that while the CFR for those aged under 60 years is 0.1%, the CFR for males aged over 90 years is over 50%.

https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/covid-19-mortality-australia-deaths-registered-3...


This data from ABS is up to Delta variant when our vaccination rate was below 20%.

The Case Fatality Rate for those under 60 is 0.1%, therefore those under 60 have a 99.9% survival rate so how effective were vaccines considering a 99.9% survival rate for those under 60?

The CDC admitted 15 months ago the vaccines cannot stop transmission so what did vaccine mandates achieve apart from demonising and discriminating against the unvaxxed? Why do pharmaphiles ignore this question?


Back to top
 

cfr_020.jpg (58 KB | 7 )
cfr_020.jpg

Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.
 
IP Logged
 
buzzanddidj
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 14213
Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC
Gender: male
Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #207 - Nov 9th, 2022 at 6:59pm
 
ShellShilo wrote on Nov 1st, 2022 at 1:04am:
antibodies.

I also seriously doubt that they are just vaccine-phobic.





Of COURSE not


It's been proven that vaccines ONLY kill
if you can see a 5G communications tower
from your house.

Coincidently (or maybe more than coincidence)
it is the 5G towers that started spreading COVID19
in the FIRST place.

Just ask anyone from
Byron Bay
- or
Mullumbimby



.
Back to top
 

'I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'


- Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
 
IP Logged
 
Carl D
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 9627
Rivervale, Perth
Gender: male
Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #208 - Nov 9th, 2022 at 7:16pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 9th, 2022 at 6:59pm:
Of COURSE not


It's been proven that vaccines ONLY kill
if you can see a 5G communications tower
from your house.

Coincidently (or maybe more than coincidence)
it is the 5G towers that started spreading COVID19
in the FIRST place.

Just ask anyone from
Byron Bay
- or
Mullumbimby



.


An oldie (as in from a couple of years back) but a goodie...  Grin
Back to top
 

5G_Con_4.jpg (63 KB | 6 )
5G_Con_4.jpg

** Repeat Covid infections exercise our immune system in the same way that repeat concussions exercise our brain **
 
IP Logged
 
reggie1963
Full Member
***
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 205
Gender: male
Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #209 - Nov 9th, 2022 at 7:24pm
 
Carl D wrote on Nov 9th, 2022 at 7:16pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 9th, 2022 at 6:59pm:
Of COURSE not


It's been proven that vaccines ONLY kill
if you can see a 5G communications tower
from your house.

Coincidently (or maybe more than coincidence)
it is the 5G towers that started spreading COVID19
in the FIRST place.

Just ask anyone from
Byron Bay
- or
Mullumbimby



.


An oldie (as in from a couple of years back) but a goodie...  Grin


Re: The people have been lied to.It was a gigantic lie
Reply #14 - Today at 12:04pm You are being given the opportunity to present to everyone your evidence/link that the Australian Government said

"Covid is mild and no more dangerous than the flu"

And you dodge it

Because you are a LIAR.

Where is your link from a .gov.au address?

You make sh*t up because you are a liar.
Back to top
 

FROM CARL DUNCE THE LYING SACK OF HORSE SH*T

"The only gigantic lie we've been fed (and continue to be fed) by our governments is that Covid is mild and no more dangerous than the flu"
 
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 ... 12 13 14 15 
Send Topic Print