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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #45 - Oct 5^th, 2021 at 9:13am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 7:34am:

Sure vaccines are important and people should get vaccinated

But the reason Queensland can't open it's border with New South Wales is because even without covid
Our public hospitals are at 100% capacity and ambulances can't be unloaded

That is nothing to do with polio or cholera or hepatitis a

That is wholly and solely to do with the fact that fat Steve and fat Janine and the 70% of the population who live the life of pure garbage like fat Steve and fat Janine
Are incredibly unhealthy and the hospital system is doing little more
Then treating lifestyle-related self-inflicted chronic pathology with zero chance of ever improving

Our public hospital system is sinking under the bloated bulk of lazy self entitled selfish unhealthy fat chodes who refuse to take any responsibility for their health

Your picture of Queensland fits an ugly stereotype... A land inhabited by fat, alcoholic white trash?

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #46 - Oct 5^th, 2021 at 9:39am

Long before Covid or even SARS.

....many Administrations in the Medical Industry were trying to use Legality clout to force Workers to take an Anti-Flu/Cold Vaccine jab every year. In fact, this 'Jab' was being flogged off like Hair Tonic, with the threat of dismissal by Admins in the Health Industry itself, if a worker did not display proof of a jab.

...now there is no substantial evidence or proof that these Cold/Flu jobs actually work. Most who take them, get just as sick from them, than the Flu/Cold itself.
These jabs are a 'fabricated' push to make people dependent on yearly jabs (like junkies) ...with each year passing without the 'natural' flu/cold (to build up our immune systems naturally) - then suddenly the poor person can't get their yearly jab and catches the cold... which hits them as hard as a pandemic Covid virus with a high chance of DEATH.

The fact that Western Medicine has been overshadowed by Politics still, even during a Pandemic - shows how many people have little trust and faith in their Medical Systems (unlike Castro's Cuban Health System - one of the best in the world and vastly superior than the Capitalist one to the north) and hence why a Health System run by 'POLITITIONS' constitutes a FAKE PANDEMIC.

We all know Politician Scomo of Hillsong is ruler of the Australian Fire scene and ruler of the Australian Medical system... Dr Scomo knows what's best for this country and that's why he has the last word on everything. Scomo knows what's best for Australia, while he sips cocktails in Hawaii on his way to his USA 'masters'. We all know Gillard couldn't wait to get to the USA to be applauded for calling all Australian men as mysogynists, etc.

THIS IS WHY PEOPLE FEAR THE VACCINE.
When all that you see on TV is Politicians in charge of this GLOBAL MEDICAL PANDEMIC (not a world war) and a Military General running the Health System and the only male Medical Expert being a 'foreigner' (just visiting, on the monopoly board).
It's easy not to take the Australian Health System seriously.

...and that's why many Australians will all start to die from this Pandemic - with or without the Vaccine. Scomo of the Nostromo has let the Virus Alien in.

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #47 - Oct 5^th, 2021 at 9:45am

Jasin wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 9:39am:

Long before Covid or even SARS.

....many Administrations in the Medical Industry were trying to use Legality clout to force Workers to take an Anti-Flu/Cold Vaccine jab every year. In fact, this 'Jab' was being flogged off like Hair Tonic, with the threat of dismissal by Admins in the Health Industry itself, if a worker did not display proof of a jab.

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Ive worked in Hospitals quite a lot over the years and no one ever mentioned the flu jab apart from the annual offer of a free jab, no coercion detected. . And theres no "legal clout" to force anyone to take a flu jab. if you take note of what is happening in the world around you they are now actually having to invent those restrictions specifically for this Covid19 virus.

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #48 - Oct 5^th, 2021 at 10:05am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 9:13am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 7:34am:

Sure vaccines are important and people should get vaccinated

But the reason Queensland can't open it's border with New South Wales is because even without covid
Our public hospitals are at 100% capacity and ambulances can't be unloaded

That is nothing to do with polio or cholera or hepatitis a

That is wholly and solely to do with the fact that fat Steve and fat Janine and the 70% of the population who live the life of pure garbage like fat Steve and fat Janine
Are incredibly unhealthy and the hospital system is doing little more
Then treating lifestyle-related self-inflicted chronic pathology with zero chance of ever improving

Our public hospital system is sinking under the bloated bulk of lazy self entitled selfish unhealthy fat chodes who refuse to take any responsibility for their health

Your picture of Queensland fits an ugly stereotype... A land inhabited by fat, alcoholic white trash?

Nothing to do with white

I think you would find the level of obesity and alcoholism is just as high if not higher in Aboriginal and Maori

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #49 - Oct 5^th, 2021 at 10:07am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 9:10am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 1:18am:

Aqua is right, the politicians need a scapegoat - divide and conquer tactic - a jurassic tactic as old as feeding Christians to lions ... and still working apparently

So, nothing to do with economic recovery, and a reconnecting to the world, then?

Just Nazis and ancient Roman oligarchy, eh?

You should move to a totalitarian state... See if you can spot the differences in those who govern.

Not really much difference North

I'm sure in China they just make you get the vaccine
If California decides that children cannot go to school without it
It's really not that different is it ?

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #50 - Oct 5^th, 2021 at 10:13am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 10:07am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 9:10am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 1:18am:

Aqua is right, the politicians need a scapegoat - divide and conquer tactic - a jurassic tactic as old as feeding Christians to lions ... and still working apparently

So, nothing to do with economic recovery, and a reconnecting to the world, then?

Just Nazis and ancient Roman oligarchy, eh?

You should move to a totalitarian state... See if you can spot the differences in those who govern.

Not really much difference North

I'm sure in China they just make you get the vaccine
If California decides that children cannot go to school without it
It's really not that different is it ?

Maybe you need to educate yourself on what totalitarianism is...

Shouldn't be hard... There are more hours of documentaries and time spent writing the histories of totalitarianism than the hours lived by Hitler, Stalin and Mao combined.

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #51 - Oct 5^th, 2021 at 10:20am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 9:07am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 7:01am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 4^th, 2021 at 10:59pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 4^th, 2021 at 10:51pm:

A goldfish would have more brains than you 2.

Measles, Mumps ,rubella vaccine is a sterilising vaccine which means it prevents you from catching those things which makes it easy to eliminate.

You will never eliminate the kung flu with a non sterilising vaccine which all the current ones are. These vaccines don't prevent you from catching Kung Flu they only reduce severity of infection.

Best estimate is Kung Flu will go from pandemic to endemic

Cholera? Smallpox? Tuberculosis? Polio? Hepatitis A? Hepatitis B? Diphtheria? Tetanus? Rotavirus? Diphtheria?

It is certain that vaccination against COVID will be mandatory.

We'll see.

Yes.

And it's not hard to imagine a strategy for full compliance.

After the 90% mark is reached voluntarily (which is likely), airline services will be restricted to fully vaccinated only. Next will likely be police powers to issue stay-at-home orders to individuals who cannot prove they're fully vaccinated. If the order is breached, courts will be empowered to suspend drivers licenses.

By this time next year, the remaining hold-outs will be managed on a case-by-case basis which, ultimately (if necessary) will include jail time for willful non-compliance without an exemption certificate.

• You'd love that hey.

• You're also dreaming. It's not gonna happen.

• Never mind! Cross your fingers. That might help 😂

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #52 - Oct 5^th, 2021 at 10:20am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 10:05am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 9:13am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 7:34am:

Sure vaccines are important and people should get vaccinated

But the reason Queensland can't open it's border with New South Wales is because even without covid
Our public hospitals are at 100% capacity and ambulances can't be unloaded

That is nothing to do with polio or cholera or hepatitis a

That is wholly and solely to do with the fact that fat Steve and fat Janine and the 70% of the population who live the life of pure garbage like fat Steve and fat Janine
Are incredibly unhealthy and the hospital system is doing little more
Then treating lifestyle-related self-inflicted chronic pathology with zero chance of ever improving

Our public hospital system is sinking under the bloated bulk of lazy self entitled selfish unhealthy fat chodes who refuse to take any responsibility for their health

Your picture of Queensland fits an ugly stereotype... A land inhabited by fat, alcoholic white trash?

Nothing to do with white

I think you would find the level of obesity and alcoholism is just as high if not higher in Aboriginal and Maori

Are Steve and Janine white?

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #53 - Oct 5^th, 2021 at 10:22am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 10:20am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 9:07am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 7:01am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 4^th, 2021 at 10:59pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 4^th, 2021 at 10:51pm:

A goldfish would have more brains than you 2.

Measles, Mumps ,rubella vaccine is a sterilising vaccine which means it prevents you from catching those things which makes it easy to eliminate.

You will never eliminate the kung flu with a non sterilising vaccine which all the current ones are. These vaccines don't prevent you from catching Kung Flu they only reduce severity of infection.

Best estimate is Kung Flu will go from pandemic to endemic

Cholera? Smallpox? Tuberculosis? Polio? Hepatitis A? Hepatitis B? Diphtheria? Tetanus? Rotavirus? Diphtheria?

It is certain that vaccination against COVID will be mandatory.

We'll see.

Yes.

And it's not hard to imagine a strategy for full compliance.

After the 90% mark is reached voluntarily (which is likely), airline services will be restricted to fully vaccinated only. Next will likely be police powers to issue stay-at-home orders to individuals who cannot prove they're fully vaccinated. If the order is breached, courts will be empowered to suspend drivers licenses.

By this time next year, the remaining hold-outs will be managed on a case-by-case basis which, ultimately (if necessary) will include jail time for willful non-compliance without an exemption certificate.

• You'd love that hey.

• You're also dreaming. It's not gonna happen.

• Never mind! Cross your fingers. That might help 😂

It will hit home when your kids want to travel, but will be required to be fully vaccinated.

On that day, mad mum, will be disregarded.

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #55 - Oct 5^th, 2021 at 11:55am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 10:13am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 10:07am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 9:10am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 1:18am:

Aqua is right, the politicians need a scapegoat - divide and conquer tactic - a jurassic tactic as old as feeding Christians to lions ... and still working apparently

So, nothing to do with economic recovery, and a reconnecting to the world, then?

Just Nazis and ancient Roman oligarchy, eh?

You should move to a totalitarian state... See if you can spot the differences in those who govern.

Not really much difference North

I'm sure in China they just make you get the vaccine
If California decides that children cannot go to school without it
It's really not that different is it ?

Maybe you need to educate yourself on what totalitarianism is...

Shouldn't be hard... There are more hours of documentaries and time spent writing the histories of totalitarianism than the hours lived by Hitler, Stalin and Mao combined.

Authoritarianism, that's what we have at the moment, and "divide & conquer" can be applied in that also. Select a group (non vaxxed) and go after them, get the vaxxed on-side to assist. If things are still not going well for you, go after the non vaxxed even more, with even more hostility, until the vaxxed are mostly doing the job for you ..... and that's exactly what's happening now ... then the Covid incompetent politicians just sit back and watch the tactic take effect in the community

"Divide and Conquer", a jurassic political tactic as old as the hills - we never wake up to it

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #56 - Oct 5^th, 2021 at 12:08pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 11:55am:

Authoritarianism, that's what we have at the moment, and "divide & conquer" can be applied in that also. Select a group (non vaxxed) and go after them, get the vaxxed on-side to assist. If things are still not going well for you, go after the non vaxxed even more, with even more hostility, until the vaxxed are mostly doing the job for you ..... and that's exactly what's happening now ... then the Covid incompetent politicians just sit back and watch the tactic take effect in the community

"Divide and Conquer", a jurassic political tactic as old as the hills - we never wake up to it

A few flaws in your logic...

No Australian politician engineered the pandemic.

Mark McGowan is the only Australian political leader who has benefitted politically from the pandemic, so if it was a mass political conspiracy (which it isn't) it is an abject failure.

In early 2020, all Australian political leaders were confused by what course of action should be taken... i.e. there was no conspiratorial plan as how to deal with the problem, either for or against their political interests.

The need to align to a singular world strategy for the next step though the pandemic is obvious, so the actions that need to be taken by Australian politicians could be against their immediate political interests (particularly if there are logistical cock-ups, which there almost certainly will be). This is particularly true of Mark McGowan who, no doubt, would be happy to continue with state isolation for maybe another year.

While you can always evoke the cynical political quip: 'never let a disaster go to waste', in reality disasters are political tornadoes in that they cannot be controlled such that the politician can guarantee and advantageous outcome.

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #57 - Oct 5^th, 2021 at 12:08pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 11:55am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 10:13am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 10:07am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 9:10am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 1:18am:

Aqua is right, the politicians need a scapegoat - divide and conquer tactic - a jurassic tactic as old as feeding Christians to lions ... and still working apparently

So, nothing to do with economic recovery, and a reconnecting to the world, then?

Just Nazis and ancient Roman oligarchy, eh?

You should move to a totalitarian state... See if you can spot the differences in those who govern.

Not really much difference North

I'm sure in China they just make you get the vaccine
If California decides that children cannot go to school without it
It's really not that different is it ?

Maybe you need to educate yourself on what totalitarianism is...

Shouldn't be hard... There are more hours of documentaries and time spent writing the histories of totalitarianism than the hours lived by Hitler, Stalin and Mao combined.

Authoritarianism, that's what we have at the moment, and "divide & conquer" can be applied in that also. Select a group (non vaxxed) and go after them, get the vaxxed on-side to assist. If things are still not going well for you, go after the non vaxxed even more, with even more hostility, until the vaxxed are mostly doing the job for you ..... and that's exactly what's happening now ... then the Covid incompetent politicians just sit back and watch the tactic take effect in the community

"Divide and Conquer", a jurassic political tactic as old as the hills - we never wake up to it

i agree completely.

north would have been a good little nazi in 1939, dobbing in suspicious behaviour at the frank household to try and get anne frank dealt with appropriately.
he would have seen it as his duty to help "cleanse" his environement and keep his society "safe"

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #58 - Oct 5^th, 2021 at 12:11pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 12:08pm:

i agree completely.

north would have been a good little nazi in 1939, dobbing in suspicious behaviour at the frank household to try and get anne frank dealt with appropriately.
he would have seen it as his duty to help "cleanse" his environement and keep his society "safe"

Apart from that being offensive, it proves you're not the thinker you imagine yourself to be... To fall for reductio ad Hitlerum for effect without a point other than to shock proves that.

You'll always be the son of poor white trash... You know that and so does anyone who reads your posts.

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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #59 - Oct 5^th, 2021 at 12:12pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 12:08pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 5^th, 2021 at 11:55am:

Authoritarianism, that's what we have at the moment, and "divide & conquer" can be applied in that also. Select a group (non vaxxed) and go after them, get the vaxxed on-side to assist. If things are still not going well for you, go after the non vaxxed even more, with even more hostility, until the vaxxed are mostly doing the job for you ..... and that's exactly what's happening now ... then the Covid incompetent politicians just sit back and watch the tactic take effect in the community

"Divide and Conquer", a jurassic political tactic as old as the hills - we never wake up to it

A few flaws in your logic...

No Australian politician engineered the pandemic.

Mark McGowan is the only Australian political leader who has benefitted politically from the pandemic, so if it was a mass political conspiracy (which it isn't) it is an abject failure.

In early 2020, all Australian political leaders were confused by what course of action should be taken... i.e. there was no conspiratorial plan as how to deal with the problem, either for or against their political interests.

The need to align to a singular world strategy for the next step though the pandemic is obvious, so the actions that need to be taken by Australian politicians could be against their immediate political interests (particularly if there are logistical cock-ups, which there almost certainly will be). This is particularly true of Mark McGowan who, no doubt, would be happy to continue with state isolation for maybe another year.

While you can always evoke the cynical political quip: 'never let a disaster go to waste', in reality disasters are political tornadoes in that they cannot be controlled such that the politician can guarantee and advantageous outcome.

never let a good crisis go to waste.

the same thing happened post 9/11.

20 years after, you still wouldnt dare go into an airport and start cracking jokes or teasing the security guys.

you have been trained to be submissive
you have been trained to obey
you have been trained to comply and be an automaton.
you have been trained to do exactly what the state says.
if they want to strip search your 5 yo daughter, you wouldnt speak up.

it will be the same with this new found authority with regards to health (which was always seen as a personal right) in 20 years time.
the position wont be unwound

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