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Jovial Monk Moderator Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	When and why did Europeans develop white skins? Oct 11^th, 2021 at 6:53am Interesting: CroMagnon man was black. Not that CroMagnon is a useful term or concept.
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins? Reply #1 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 7:20am The issue of skin colour would be a non-starter in any culture if dark skin was not a cultural status marker, being: those who perform outside manual labour tasks are of low economic status rank, such that the darker the skin, the more likely the person will suffer societal discrimination.
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Reply #2 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 11:05am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 7:20am:

The issue of skin colour would be a non-starter in any culture if dark skin was not a cultural status marker, being: those who perform outside manual labour tasks are of low economic status rank, such that the darker the skin, the more likely the person will suffer societal discrimination.

If you’ve ever read an Indian newpaper classified section you’ll encounter dozens of adverts for skin whitening preparations. It’s a huge industry there. The personal columns also carry matchmaking adverts that stress ‘fair skin’ as a prime advantage in the race to acquire a groom.

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Reply #3 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 11:08am

Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 11:05am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 7:20am:

The issue of skin colour would be a non-starter in any culture if dark skin was not a cultural status marker, being: those who perform outside manual labour tasks are of low economic status rank, such that the darker the skin, the more likely the person will suffer societal discrimination.

If you’ve ever read an Indian newpaper classified section you’ll encounter dozens of adverts for skin whitening preparations. It’s a huge industry there. The personal columns also carry matchmaking adverts that stress ‘fair skin’ as a prime advantage in the race to acquire a groom.

Yes. Certain castes mourn if their child is born with dark skin.

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Reply #4 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 11:40am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 7:20am:

The issue of skin colour would be a non-starter in any culture if dark skin was not a cultural status marker, being: those who perform outside manual labour tasks are of low economic status rank, such that the darker the skin, the more likely the person will suffer societal discrimination.

In a remote Indonesian village many years ago we were invited to go to the home of the man who was well known to have the most beautiful wife in the province, when we arrived we were introduced to a very overweight and to our eyes unattractive Albino woman .

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Reply #5 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 6:52pm

rhino wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 11:40am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 7:20am:

The issue of skin colour would be a non-starter in any culture if dark skin was not a cultural status marker, being: those who perform outside manual labour tasks are of low economic status rank, such that the darker the skin, the more likely the person will suffer societal discrimination.

In a remote Indonesian village many years ago we were invited to go to the home of the man who was well known to have the most beautiful wife in the province, when we arrived we were introduced to a very overweight and to our eyes unattractive Albino woman .

Now that's a perfect example of status anxiety trumping immediate visual aesthetics.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75183 Gender:	Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins? Reply #6 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 7:02pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 6:52pm: Now that's a perfect example of status anxiety trumping immediate visual aesthetics. no different to the idiots with the puffer fish lips or buttocks that you can sit your beer bottle on ... usually surgically enhanced
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Reply #7 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 7:14pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 7:02pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 6:52pm:

Now that's a perfect example of status anxiety trumping immediate visual aesthetics.

no different to the idiots with the puffer fish lips or buttocks that you can sit your beer bottle on ... usually surgically enhanced

Yeah, but we're talking about skin colour being a thing... Light skin across Asia signals affluence and/or high caste.

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Reply #8 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 7:32pm

Over 30 years ago, I met a few Indonesians who were actually on holiday in Australia. Even at my age then, I found it weird that I would meet some English speaking Asian (Indonesian) people who actually visited my town. I asked how they liked the town. One said something to the effect of, "The women here are beautiful. They are all... BLONDE".

There seemed to be a real fascination with blond/blonde-haired people to Asian people. Even I managed to have a few Asian females hit on me because they liked my blond hair. I have even caught a few Asian guys leering at my eldest daughter, because she has long blonde hair.

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Reply #9 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 8:31pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 6:53am:

Interesting:

CroMagnon man was black. Not that CroMagnon is a useful term or concept.

Oh look !!!!!!

Someone has a time machine !

And went back in time, and took a video !

That is conclusive evidence [of what they are claiming].

Someone alert the media, .....someone has invented a time machine !

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In a similar vein [i.e. 'reconstructing WOKE history'].....

There is a new drama series starting on SBS......

Quote:

New Gold Mountain: With Yoson An, Mabel Li, Christopher James Baker, Sam Wang. 1857, the charismatic headman of the Chinese mining camp struggles to maintain the fragile harmony between Chinese and European diggers when a murdered European woman is discovered to have links to the Chinese community.

In New Gold Mountain, ......hmmmm.
.....i wonder who the 'baddies' were, back then, on dem, dar, goldfields ?

Come on, you must have an idea, who the 'baddies' will turn out to be, in this new drama series ???

Its 2021, come on !!!!!

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Jovial Monk Moderator Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins? Reply #10 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 8:32pm Genetic analysis showed the skin color.
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Jovial Monk Moderator Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins? Reply #11 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 8:34pm Jesus, had he existed, would have been swarthy, dark eyed and with black hair. Jesus wasn’t white!
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Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins?
Reply #12 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 8:34pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 7:32pm:

Over 30 years ago, I met a few Indonesians who were actually on holiday in Australia. Even at my age then, I found it weird that I would meet some English speaking Asian (Indonesian) people who actually visited my town. I asked how they liked the town. One said something to the effect of, "The women here are beautiful. They are all... BLONDE".

There seemed to be a real fascination with blond/blonde-haired people to Asian people. Even I managed to have a few Asian females hit on me because they liked my blond hair. I have even caught a few Asian guys leering at my eldest daughter, because she has long blonde hair.

Yes... They're more like doing that because, in the Asian context, they think we are born high status...

Ironically, for us, being tanned and bronzed is a signal we're affluent, windswept and interesting.

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Reply #13 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 9:08pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 8:34pm:

Jesus, had he existed, would have been swarthy, dark eyed and with black hair. Jesus wasn’t white!

Oh, was he ?

Well, well, well.

That must be, ...because Jesus was a moslem !! [....this is what the Koran and what ISLAM claims, about Jesus]

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NOT ABOUT JESUS.....

Archeologists have unearthed a tomb in Egypt, which it is believed [by some], belonged to Joseph [one of the sons of the biblical Jacob].

It is the tomb of a 'Semite', who was living in Egypt.

They know it is the tomb of a 'Semite', because of the type of weapons and artifacts unearthed in the tomb.

And, and, .....there is a depiction of this person, the 'Semite', ....and he has RED HAIR.

Imagine that, if it really is the tomb of Joseph [one of the sons of Jacob], he has RED HAIR !!!

An ancient Semite, in Egypt who has RED HAIR.

Hmmmmm.

WWW search.....
"Patterns of Evidence" joseph had "red hair"

Its not conclusive, ......but Arabs and moslems and atheists, will absolutely hate and reject this narrative.

Principally, just because it has been proposed.

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Patterns of Evidence: Exodus - Full Trailer

4 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2assFIyLInE

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Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins?
Reply #14 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 9:13pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 9:08pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 8:34pm:

Jesus, had he existed, would have been swarthy, dark eyed and with black hair. Jesus wasn’t white!

Oh, was he ?

If you were truly interested in theology, you'd know that the Christ of faith takes any form that the culture he's found in needs him to be.... Black, white, bearded, unbearded, Middle Eastern, Asian, Indian, Swedish masseuse, Italian green grocer... even an American proud owner of a Ferrari.

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