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Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins?
Reply #15 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 9:18pm

With a WWW search......

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British Egyptologist, David Rohl, believes he may have found the possible palace, tomb, and statue of Joseph. In an area of Goshen that was occupied by a large number of Semitic people, a palace, complete with a garden and tomb, has been discovered that has an interesting combination of both Egyptian and Semitic style. The tomb located in the garden is empty. The vault with its remains have been removed. However, the damage to the tomb is careful and methodical- not consistent with the damage common to other tombs inflicted by grave robbers. Since Moses removed Joseph’s remains from his tomb and brought them out when the Israelites fled Egypt, the appearance of this tomb is thought provoking to say the least. Inside the tomb complex is an unusual statue that has been heavily vandalized. The statue depicts a man who was clearly a high ranking Egyptian authority, since he has throw-stick on his chest, which was a symbol of Pharaoh’s authority. Oddly enough, however, the statue has red hair, styled in a Semitic fashion, and wears a coat with variegated colors. Interesting indeed…

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https://truthsnitch.com/tag/josephs-tomb-found-in-egypt/

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Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins?
Reply #16 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 9:22pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 9:18pm:

With a WWW search......

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British Egyptologist, David Rohl, believes he may have found the possible palace, tomb, and statue of Joseph. In an area of Goshen that was occupied by a large number of Semitic people, a palace, complete with a garden and tomb, has been discovered that has an interesting combination of both Egyptian and Semitic style. The tomb located in the garden is empty. The vault with its remains have been removed. However, the damage to the tomb is careful and methodical- not consistent with the damage common to other tombs inflicted by grave robbers. Since Moses removed Joseph’s remains from his tomb and brought them out when the Israelites fled Egypt, the appearance of this tomb is thought provoking to say the least. Inside the tomb complex is an unusual statue that has been heavily vandalized. The statue depicts a man who was clearly a high ranking Egyptian authority, since he has throw-stick on his chest, which was a symbol of Pharaoh’s authority. Oddly enough, however, the statue has red hair, styled in a Semitic fashion, and wears a coat with variegated colors. Interesting indeed…

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https://truthsnitch.com/tag/josephs-tomb-found-in-egypt/

As I said... Learn something of historical theology... The Christ of faith has appeared in every possible form he is required to be represented.

No one painted the portrait of the Joshua of history, so no one knows his true image, except what you can imagine from the average Middle Eastern.

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Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins?
Reply #17 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 9:23pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 9:13pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 9:08pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 8:34pm:

Jesus, had he existed, would have been swarthy, dark eyed and with black hair. Jesus wasn’t white!

Oh, was he ?

If you were truly interested in theology, you'd know that the Christ of faith takes any form that the culture he's found in needs him to be.... Black, white, bearded, unbearded, Middle Eastern, Asian, Indian, Swedish masseuse, Italian green grocer... even an American proud owner of a Ferrari.

LOL

Come on north. Grin

......is that the best you have ?

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Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins?
Reply #18 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 9:24pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 9:23pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 9:13pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 9:08pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 8:34pm:

Jesus, had he existed, would have been swarthy, dark eyed and with black hair. Jesus wasn’t white!

Oh, was he ?

If you were truly interested in theology, you'd know that the Christ of faith takes any form that the culture he's found in needs him to be.... Black, white, bearded, unbearded, Middle Eastern, Asian, Indian, Swedish masseuse, Italian green grocer... even an American proud owner of a Ferrari.

LOL

Come on north. Grin

......is that the best you have ?

I can tell by that response, you are not a student of theology.

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Jovial Monk Moderator Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins? Reply #19 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 9:30pm I am not talking {shudder} theology! I am talking what people in that part of the world looked like back then. Not white skinned, blond haired, blue eyed.
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Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins?
Reply #20 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 9:33pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 9:30pm:

I am not talking {shudder} theology! I am talking what people in that part of the world looked like back then.

Not white skinned, blond haired, blue eyed.

Impossible that he would have looked like a Swede among swarthy Middle Easterners and it not be noteworthy to the Romans who were compulsive documenters, like modern-day Germans.

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins? Reply #21 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 9:42pm The modern image of the Joshua of history grew from his brother James, who lived 30 years longer than his brother, was well documented by the Jews and the Romans and who did not cut his hair or beard... The skin colour was a later addition to de-Juduaify him in Europe.
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Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins?
Reply #22 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 10:30pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 9:08pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 8:34pm:

Jesus, had he existed, would have been swarthy, dark eyed and with black hair. Jesus wasn’t white!

Oh, was he ?

Well, well, well.

That must be, ...because Jesus was a moslem !! [....this is what the Koran and what ISLAM claims, about Jesus]

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NOT ABOUT JESUS.....

Archeologists have unearthed a tomb in Egypt, which it is believed [by some], belonged to Joseph [one of the sons of the biblical Jacob].

It is the tomb of a 'Semite', who was living in Egypt.

They know it is the tomb of a 'Semite', because of the type of weapons and artifacts unearthed in the tomb.

And, and, .....there is a depiction of this person, the 'Semite', ....and he has RED HAIR.

Imagine that, if it really is the tomb of Joseph [one of the sons of Jacob], he has RED HAIR !!!

An ancient Semite, in Egypt who has RED HAIR.

Hmmmmm.

WWW search.....
"Patterns of Evidence" joseph had "red hair"

Its not conclusive, ......but Arabs and moslems and atheists, will absolutely hate and reject this narrative.

Principally, just because it has been proposed.

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Patterns of Evidence: Exodus - Full Trailer

4 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2assFIyLInE

Quite common for men in the middle east to dye their hair and beards red, I do not know why but just perhaps its a cultural practise which has been going on for a while. There you go, solved the puzzle!

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Jovial Monk Moderator Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins? Reply #23 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 10:36pm Yadda MUST have “his” Jesus blond, white and blue eyed? WHY?
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Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins?
Reply #24 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 11:00pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 10:36pm:

Yadda MUST have “his” Jesus blond, white and blue eyed?

WHY?

Jesus is Jesus, that is all.

The truth of who Jesus is, is enough.

Jesus/Joshua is the redeemer of his people.

He is the redeemer, to all who choose to repent, and accept his gift of forgiveness.

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Isaiah 43:11
I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Hosea 13:4
Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.

John 14:8
Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

There is one spirit, who is God, the LORD.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Frank Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 48075 Gender:	Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins? Reply #25 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 11:09pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 6:53am: Interesting: CroMagnon man was black. Not that CroMagnon is a useful term or concept. More to the point, Juvenile Wank - when and why did dark ones decide not to develop (white skin)? Did you watch the YouTube?
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Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins?
Reply #26 - Oct 11^th, 2021 at 11:25pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 8:34pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 7:32pm:

Over 30 years ago, I met a few Indonesians who were actually on holiday in Australia. Even at my age then, I found it weird that I would meet some English speaking Asian (Indonesian) people who actually visited my town. I asked how they liked the town. One said something to the effect of, "The women here are beautiful. They are all... BLONDE".

There seemed to be a real fascination with blond/blonde-haired people to Asian people. Even I managed to have a few Asian females hit on me because they liked my blond hair. I have even caught a few Asian guys leering at my eldest daughter, because she has long blonde hair.

Yes... They're more like doing that because, in the Asian context, they think we are born high status...

Ironically, for us, being tanned and bronzed is a signal we're affluent, windswept and interesting.

The fact is that Asian people rarely see blond(e) people in their neck of the region. They have to come to places with higher proportions of European descendants to see blond(e) hair as commonplace. There are plenty of videos on youtube where a visiting family with a blonde child in Asia go from being the tourists to the tourist attraction.

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Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins?
Reply #27 - Oct 12^th, 2021 at 7:52am

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 11:25pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 8:34pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 7:32pm:

Over 30 years ago, I met a few Indonesians who were actually on holiday in Australia. Even at my age then, I found it weird that I would meet some English speaking Asian (Indonesian) people who actually visited my town. I asked how they liked the town. One said something to the effect of, "The women here are beautiful. They are all... BLONDE".

There seemed to be a real fascination with blond/blonde-haired people to Asian people. Even I managed to have a few Asian females hit on me because they liked my blond hair. I have even caught a few Asian guys leering at my eldest daughter, because she has long blonde hair.

Yes... They're more like doing that because, in the Asian context, they think we are born high status...

Ironically, for us, being tanned and bronzed is a signal we're affluent, windswept and interesting.

The fact is that Asian people rarely see blond(e) people in their neck of the region. They have to come to places with higher proportions of European descendants to see blond(e) hair as commonplace. There are plenty of videos on youtube where a visiting family with a blonde child in Asia go from being the tourists to the tourist attraction.

Yes, I'd have to say that's true... And it doesn't necessarily need to be blond hair. White skin and a prominent nose in Asia is often cause enough to become the tourist attraction.

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Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins?
Reply #28 - Oct 12^th, 2021 at 7:55am

Yadda wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 11:00pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 10:36pm:

Yadda MUST have “his” Jesus blond, white and blue eyed?

WHY?

Jesus is Jesus, that is all.

The truth of who Jesus is, is enough.

Jesus/Joshua is the redeemer of his people.

He is the redeemer, to all who choose to repent, and accept his gift of forgiveness.

The Christ of faith is infinitely malleable... He can mean whatever the culture he is found in needs him to mean.

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Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins?
Reply #29 - Oct 12^th, 2021 at 8:03am

Yadda wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 11:00pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 11^th, 2021 at 10:36pm:

Yadda MUST have “his” Jesus blond, white and blue eyed?

WHY?

Jesus is Jesus, that is all.

The truth of who Jesus is, is enough.

Jesus/Joshua is the redeemer of his people.

He is the redeemer, to all who choose to repent, and accept his gift of forgiveness.

.

Isaiah 43:11
I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Hosea 13:4
Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.

John 14:8
Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

There is one spirit, who is God, the LORD.

Jesus did not exist. Christianity started as yet another slave cult.

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