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Jovial Monk Moderator Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins? Reply #45 - Oct 12^th, 2021 at 10:39am Christianity exists, so what? All the cults in the Roman Empire, one survived. Wish all religion would disappear. No matter how fine the religion a church and a hierarchy develop and these have interests besides the religion. Most of the Old Testament is a fable and so is all of christianity.
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Reply #46 - Oct 12^th, 2021 at 10:46am

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 10:39am:

All the cults in the Roman Empire, one survived.

That's very true. All of Europe's religions prior to Christianity are extinct.

That Christianity has survived for nearly 2000 years is remarkable as is the survival of Buddhism given their very humble beginnings.

Islam was quickly adopted as an Arabian unifying force (an antidote to fractious Arab tribalistic sensibilities) even during Mohammed's lifetime, so it clearly found its feet immediately.

Judaism was already ancient 2000 years ago so perhaps it's the most remarkable of all.

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Reply #47 - Oct 12^th, 2021 at 10:49am

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 10:39am:

Christianity exists, so what? All the cults in the Roman Empire, one survived.

Wish all religion would disappear. No matter how fine the religion a church and a hierarchy develop and these have interests besides the religion.

Most of the Old Testament is a fable and so is all of christianity.

That is stupid and myopic/blind. Fables, myths, parables, literature, art, music, philosophy, psychology - none of them are materially, objectively true yet all are essential, indispensable and exist universally across all societies. To wish them away is to wish away our very humanity, throwing out the baby, the bathwater, the tub, destroying the plumbing and demolishing the house.

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Reply #48 - Oct 12^th, 2021 at 10:55am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 10:46am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 10:39am:

All the cults in the Roman Empire, one survived.

That's very true. All of Europe's religions prior to Christianity are extinct.

However their traces can be found in Christianity.

Easter was the Roman (and pagan European) celebration of rebirth (hence the eggs), grafted onto the Jewish Passover to create the Christian Easter.

Christmas (December 25th) was the birthday of the Roman god Sol Invictus (The Invincible Sun).

The Sabbath was moved from Friday night / Saturday to Sunday - the day of Sol Invictus.

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Jovial Monk Moderator Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins? Reply #49 - Oct 12^th, 2021 at 11:36am And the pine Christmass trees too.
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: When and why did Europeans develop white skins? Reply #50 - Oct 12^th, 2021 at 11:37am Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2021 at 11:36am: And the pine Christmass trees too. That's a German tradition made popular in the Anglophonic world by Prince Albert.
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Reply #51 - Oct 12^th, 2021 at 11:40am

Ah, knew it was German, didn’t know re Albert.

In Holland the (real) trees would be collected by youth, piled up in a square or intersection and a bonfire started.

In some of the rougher districts when the fire had burned out you could find the small stolen car they piled the trees around and on.

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