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Re: Power of prayer
Reply #150 - Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:28pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:05pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 2:53pm:

Nah, just some sourpuss having a whinge. Means nothing.

You are being abusive again, you antisocial blowhard.

They are the words of Paul the Apostle - not mine.

Paul the Apostle ( c. 5 – c. 64/67 AD), commonly known as Saint Paul and also known by his Hebrew name Saul of Tarsus, was a Christian apostle (although not one of the Twelve Apostles) who spread the teachings of Jesus in the first-century world.

Lets get this one Straight. Saul of Tarsus-Paul did more than spread the teachings of Jesus, he altered and replaced a lot of it to his own ends.

But it's in the Bible -
it's accepted as holy words.

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Reply #151 - Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:30pm

The holy words of Paul the Apostle:

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 KJV

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?
Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters,
nor adulterers, nor effeminate,
nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards,
nor revilers, nor extortioners,
shall inherit the kingdom of God.

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Re: Power of prayer
Reply #152 - Oct 27^th, 2021 at 5:08pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:29pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:25pm:

You identify as an old sourpuss?

I don’t care the name of the old sourpuss, just that he is a sourpuss.

This is you being abusive and antisocial:

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nor effeminate,
nor drunkards

But do you deny that you are effeminate and a drunkard?

Do we know what it means to be a drunkard but effeminate? Why is it these characteristics of ‘maleness’ and ‘femaleness’ need be single gender only characteristics? My experience tells me the sanest are those unafraid to be both tough and fragile without even associating such with a particular gender. I'm reminded of Philipino men. When I first encountered them I mistakenly thought most were gay. Silly me, in the Philipines gender characteristcs ( if we can call them that) are often the reverse of those of many other nationalities.
Then we have Italian men, a very strange mix I’ve always thought. Full of bravado on the surface but hyper-emotional mummies boys underneath.
None of this will matter to those of you who consider yourselves ‘real men’. It’s when religion influences thise discussion they become insane. How many Christians have wondered about the ancient tradition of male priests frocking up for sunday services not to mention the fluffy weirdness of Angican choirboy outfits ?

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Re: Power of prayer
Reply #153 - Oct 27^th, 2021 at 5:12pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 5:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:29pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:25pm:

This is you being
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nor effeminate,
nor drunkards

Do we know what it means to be a drunkard but effeminate? Why is it these characteristics of ‘maleness’ and ‘femaleness’ need be single gender only characteristics? My experience tells me the sanest are those unafraid to be both tough and fragile without even associating such with a particular gender. I'm reminded of Philipino men. When I first encountered them I mistakenly thought most were gay. Silly me, in the Philipines gender characteristcs ( if we can call them that) are often the reverse of those of many other nationalities.
Then we have Italian men, a very strange mix I’ve always thought. Full of bravado on the surface but hyper-emotional mummies boys underneath.
None of this will matter to those of you who consider yourselves ‘real men’. It’s when religion influences thise discussion they become insane. How many Christians have wondered about the ancient tradition of male priests frocking up for sunday services not to mention the fluffy weirdness of Angican choirboy outfits ?

Some of the clothes in the church are very poofy. Embarrassed

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Re: Power of prayer
Reply #154 - Oct 27^th, 2021 at 5:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 3:30pm:

The holy words of Paul the Apostle:

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 KJV

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?
Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters,
nor adulterers, nor effeminate,
nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards,
nor revilers, nor extortioners,
shall inherit the kingdom of God.

It really was a waste of time having Christ die on the cross for our sins.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106906 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Power of prayer Reply #155 - Oct 27^th, 2021 at 5:25pm Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 5:13pm: It really was a waste of time having Christ die on the cross for our sins. Not to true believers.
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Re: Power of prayer
Reply #157 - Oct 27^th, 2021 at 7:03pm

Frank wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 6:07pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 5:13pm:

It really was a waste of time having Christ die on the cross for our sins.

A self-identifying cocksucker (I speak strictly empirically and non-judgementally) dismisses the entire Western civilisational development of the last 2000 years with a careless, limp-wristed toss as a 'oh, waste of time, really'.

I suspect it's not because he is imagining himself without 'sin' (ie imagining himself morally perfect), but simply because he doesn't accept cocksucking as immoral. World historical significance is dismissed by private vice. Cocksucking must not be impugned.

What a fascinating internal world your peculiar brain constructs. Do you dream about these scenarios ?

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Re: Power of prayer
Reply #158 - Oct 28^th, 2021 at 2:59pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 7:03pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 6:07pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 5:13pm:

It really was a waste of time having Christ die on the cross for our sins.

A self-identifying cocksucker (I speak strictly empirically and non-judgementally) dismisses the entire Western civilisational development of the last 2000 years with a careless, limp-wristed toss as a 'oh, waste of time, really'.

I suspect it's not because he is imagining himself without 'sin' (ie imagining himself morally perfect), but simply because he doesn't accept cocksucking as immoral. World historical significance is dismissed by private vice. Cocksucking must not be impugned.

What a fascinating internal world your peculiar brain constructs. Do you dream about these scenarios ?

What about the holy words of Paul the Apostle?

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Re: Power of prayer
Reply #159 - Oct 28^th, 2021 at 3:47pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 28^th, 2021 at 3:40pm:

Wow! So he DID?

Galatians 5:19-21 KJV

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past,

that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

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Re: Power of prayer
Reply #160 - Oct 28^th, 2021 at 4:58pm

Drugs and demons:

https://www.vice.com/en/article/ep4dxk/its-official-dmt-makes-you-believe-in-god

Respondents to the study, who had taken DMT on average 14 times, described bumping into an array of what they could best describe as aliens, spirits, angels, demons, gnomes and fairies. Most of these creatures, said respondents, were sentient and benevolent, with many described as “sacred.” Less than 15 percent reported “judgmental or malicious” creatures.

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Re: Power of prayer
Reply #161 - Oct 29^th, 2021 at 7:31am

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2021 at 4:58pm:

Drugs and demons:

https://www.vice.com/en/article/ep4dxk/its-official-dmt-makes-you-believe-in-god

Respondents to the study, who had taken DMT on average 14 times, described bumping into an array of what they could best describe as aliens, spirits, angels, demons, gnomes and fairies. Most of these creatures, said respondents, were sentient and benevolent, with many described as “sacred.” Less than 15 percent reported “judgmental or malicious” creatures.

Cultural and religious upbringing wouldn’t have anything to do with it, would it?
Anyhow, just don’t go dropping DMT before attending sunday service.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 47987 Gender:	Re: Power of prayer Reply #162 - Oct 29^th, 2021 at 12:47pm A wonderful introduction to Spinoza, beautifully narrated. 1/8
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Re: Power of prayer
Reply #163 - Oct 30^th, 2021 at 7:59am

Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 29^th, 2021 at 7:31am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2021 at 4:58pm:

Drugs and demons:

https://www.vice.com/en/article/ep4dxk/its-official-dmt-makes-you-believe-in-god

Respondents to the study, who had taken DMT on average 14 times, described bumping into an array of what they could best describe as aliens, spirits, angels, demons, gnomes and fairies. Most of these creatures, said respondents, were sentient and benevolent, with many described as “sacred.” Less than 15 percent reported “judgmental or malicious” creatures.

Cultural and religious upbringing wouldn’t have anything to do with it, would it?
Anyhow, just don’t go dropping DMT before attending sunday service.

The question is -
why are reports of demons so ubiquitous in the DMT state
instead of something else?

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Re: Power of prayer
Reply #164 - Oct 31^st, 2021 at 7:34am

More words from the Apostle Paul.

Romans 1 KJV

[26] For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

[27] And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

[28] And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

[29] Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

[30] Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

[31] Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

[32] Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

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