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Oct 25^th, 2021 at 1:19am

This is why some of us can't have any jab. Take a look at the pics and have a read of the article.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10124957/amp/Au...

Australian actress fighting for life after suffering a stroke caused by AstraZeneca Covid vaccine's extremely rare blood-clotting side effect

By Tita Smith and Kylie Stevens For Daily Mail Australia

24 Oct 2021

An Australian actress was fighting for life in ICU after suffering a stroke caused by the AstraZeneca vaccine's rare blood-clotting side effect.

Melle Stewart, 40, received her first dose of the Oxford-made vaccine on May 24 in London, where she lives with her husband, and fellow actor, Ben Lewis.

The performer ended up in ICU, where she was diagnosed with Vaccine-induced Thrombocytopenic Thrombosis, a rare side affect linked to the AstraZeneca jab.

Melle spent three weeks in an induced coma on a ventilator after she suffered a severe stroke, caused by two large clots in the main veins of her brain.

After spending almost five weeks fighting for life in ICU, she was transferred to an Acute Stroke Unit where she started rehabilitation, before being moved to a specialised London hospital on September 8.

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Jim Lahey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2447 Lisa's Merc Gender:	Re: Vaccine --> Stroke Reply #1 - Oct 25^th, 2021 at 5:47am More chance of you posting pictures than having a stroke from AZ you stupid woman.
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Vaccine --> Stroke Reply #2 - Oct 25^th, 2021 at 5:57am Go to bed Multi Cyber Troll Jim Lahey! Your medications haven't yet worn off! Next!
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The Heartless Felon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2869 Gender:	Re: Vaccine --> Stroke Reply #3 - Oct 25^th, 2021 at 6:09am From your link: Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome is an extremely rare condition involving low blood platelet levels and only 156 cases of the illness have been reported from nearly 13million doses of AstraZeneca administered in Australia.
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Reply #4 - Oct 25^th, 2021 at 6:19am

The Heartless Felon wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 6:09am:

From your link:

Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome is an extremely rare condition involving low blood platelet levels and only 156 cases of the illness have been reported from nearly 13million doses of AstraZeneca administered in Australia.

And even if just 1 of those was your wife or sister or daughter .... YOUR life would never be the same. Not just theirs.

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Reply #5 - Oct 25^th, 2021 at 6:42am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 6:19am:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 6:09am:

From your link:

Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome is an extremely rare condition involving low blood platelet levels and only 156 cases of the illness have been reported from nearly 13million doses of AstraZeneca administered in Australia.

And even if just 1 of those was your wife or sister or daughter .... YOUR life would never be the same. Not just theirs.

By that logic you wouldn't drive a car, use the roads, leave the house or step into the shower/bath.

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Reply #6 - Oct 25^th, 2021 at 8:20am

But nobody is forcing you to have a shower or bath...

You can choose not to but you'll have to deal with being smelly, have higher health risks and people won't want to be around you, have you in their stores or workplaces, people will complain about you in an enclosed space like a cinema etc...

Oh, so it's actually a lot like the vaccine... It's not forced and you have to accept the consequences of not doing it...

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Reply #7 - Oct 25^th, 2021 at 8:26am

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 8:20am:

But nobody is forcing you to have a shower or bath...

You can choose not to but you'll have to deal with being smelly, have higher health risks and people won't want to be around you, have you in their stores or workplaces, people will complain about you in an enclosed space like a cinema etc...

Oh, so it's actually a lot like the vaccine... It's not forced and you have to accept the consequences of not doing it...

Yes, there's all that...

The point is, life involves risk. In a modern society, that inevitable risk is the most minimised in human history.

Now we're left wondering if a one-in-a-million risk is too much of an ask; at least when we're grandstanding...

Otherwise, we accept risks that are many times greater than that asked of us with vaccination; such as the risk of being the victim of a road accident.

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Reply #8 - Oct 25^th, 2021 at 10:28am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 6:42am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 6:19am:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 6:09am:

From your link:

Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome is an extremely rare condition involving low blood platelet levels and only 156 cases of the illness have been reported from nearly 13million doses of AstraZeneca administered in Australia.

And even if just 1 of those was your wife or sister or daughter .... YOUR life would never be the same. Not just theirs.

By that logic you wouldn't drive a car, use the roads, leave the house or step into the shower/bath.

Oh my apologies North I must have missed those stats.

I must say I did try looking for them under this heading : Number of deaths in the world BECAUSE of having a shower 😂🤣😆

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Reply #9 - Oct 25^th, 2021 at 10:30am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 10:28am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 6:42am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 6:19am:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 6:09am:

From your link:

Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome is an extremely rare condition involving low blood platelet levels and only 156 cases of the illness have been reported from nearly 13million doses of AstraZeneca administered in Australia.

And even if just 1 of those was your wife or sister or daughter .... YOUR life would never be the same. Not just theirs.

By that logic you wouldn't drive a car, use the roads, leave the house or step into the shower/bath.

Oh my apologies North I must have missed those stats.

I must say I did try looking for them under this heading : Number of deaths in the world BECAUSE of having a shower 😂🤣😆

Look for deaths from slipping over in the shower. Like covid, it particularly affects aged people.

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Reply #10 - Oct 25^th, 2021 at 10:32am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 8:26am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 8:20am:

But nobody is forcing you to have a shower or bath...

You can choose not to but you'll have to deal with being smelly, have higher health risks and people won't want to be around you, have you in their stores or workplaces, people will complain about you in an enclosed space like a cinema etc...

Oh, so it's actually a lot like the vaccine... It's not forced and you have to accept the consequences of not doing it...

Yes, there's all that...

The point is, life involves risk. In a modern society, that inevitable risk is the most minimised in human history.

Now we're left wondering if a one-in-a-million risk is too much of an ask; at least when we're grandstanding...

Otherwise, we accept risks that are many times greater than that asked of us with vaccination; such as the risk of being the victim of a road accident.

Oh so you agree that risk assessment comes into this.

And I'd agree with you.

Which is exactly why I'm pro choice!

Each individual must undertake their own risk assessment and act on the advice of their personal qualified practitioner who knows their particular set of circumstances.

Awesome work North! I knew you'd end up agreeing with me 😎

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Reply #11 - Oct 25^th, 2021 at 10:34am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 10:30am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 10:28am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 6:42am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 6:19am:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 6:09am:

From your link:

Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome is an extremely rare condition involving low blood platelet levels and only 156 cases of the illness have been reported from nearly 13million doses of AstraZeneca administered in Australia.

And even if just 1 of those was your wife or sister or daughter .... YOUR life would never be the same. Not just theirs.

By that logic you wouldn't drive a car, use the roads, leave the house or step into the shower/bath.

Oh my apologies North I must have missed those stats.

I must say I did try looking for them under this heading : Number of deaths in the world BECAUSE of having a shower 😂🤣😆

Look for deaths from slipping over in the shower. Like covid, it particularly affects aged people.

I can't find those stats North.

You seem to know these numbers better than me.

Could you perhaps reveal the figures for us to examine? I'll even make it easier for you. Focus on stats just from Australia.

Tip : Please think this through before answering because I'm ready to pounce on you yet again lol 😂

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Reply #12 - Oct 25^th, 2021 at 10:45am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 10:32am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 8:26am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 8:20am:

But nobody is forcing you to have a shower or bath...

You can choose not to but you'll have to deal with being smelly, have higher health risks and people won't want to be around you, have you in their stores or workplaces, people will complain about you in an enclosed space like a cinema etc...

Oh, so it's actually a lot like the vaccine... It's not forced and you have to accept the consequences of not doing it...

Yes, there's all that...

The point is, life involves risk. In a modern society, that inevitable risk is the most minimised in human history.

Now we're left wondering if a one-in-a-million risk is too much of an ask; at least when we're grandstanding...

Otherwise, we accept risks that are many times greater than that asked of us with vaccination; such as the risk of being the victim of a road accident.

Oh so you agree that risk assessment comes into this.

And I'd agree with you.

Which is exactly why I'm pro choice!

Each individual must undertake their own risk assessment and act on the advice of their personal qualified practitioner who knows their particular set of circumstances.

Awesome work North! I knew you'd end up agreeing with me 😎

Life involves risk...

Like the chances of getting hit by lightning, shark attack while swimming, being rundown on the sidewalk, slipping over in the shower, being involved in an accident while driving, being hit by a meteorite &etc...

Do any of these risks prevent you from activities that include those risks?

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Reply #13 - Oct 25^th, 2021 at 10:48am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 10:45am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 10:32am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 8:26am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 8:20am:

But nobody is forcing you to have a shower or bath...

You can choose not to but you'll have to deal with being smelly, have higher health risks and people won't want to be around you, have you in their stores or workplaces, people will complain about you in an enclosed space like a cinema etc...

Oh, so it's actually a lot like the vaccine... It's not forced and you have to accept the consequences of not doing it...

Yes, there's all that...

The point is, life involves risk. In a modern society, that inevitable risk is the most minimised in human history.

Now we're left wondering if a one-in-a-million risk is too much of an ask; at least when we're grandstanding...

Otherwise, we accept risks that are many times greater than that asked of us with vaccination; such as the risk of being the victim of a road accident.

Oh so you agree that risk assessment comes into this.

And I'd agree with you.

Which is exactly why I'm pro choice!

Each individual must undertake their own risk assessment and act on the advice of their personal qualified practitioner who knows their particular set of circumstances.

Awesome work North! I knew you'd end up agreeing with me 😎

Life involves risk...

Like the chances of getting hit by lightning, shark attack while swimming, being rundown on the sidewalk, slipping over in the shower, being involved in an accident while driving, being hit by a meteorite &etc...

Do any of these risks prevent you from activities that include those risks?

Hey I fully agree.

However your argument is flawed!

You've assumed that life's risks come in at the same risk value for ALL human beings. They don't. The values differ from 1 human being to another.

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Vaccine --> Stroke Reply #14 - Oct 25^th, 2021 at 10:58am When it comes to things we enjoy doing, we are rational about the risks involved in doing them and quickly accept the (usually miniscule) risk as acceptable. Otherwise, when it's something we don't want to do, we're likely to hyper-inflate the risk-benefit ratio in favour of risk.
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