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Re: Fat kids
Reply #15 - Oct 31^st, 2021 at 2:20pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 31^st, 2021 at 2:05pm:

I once saw a doco once that said that our body's ability to store fat is determined by our parents and grandparents circumstances. If they ever had long periods where they went hungry, our cells 'remember' that and then adapt so as to more easily store fat in preparation for our next period of starvation.

If our parents and grandparents did not go through periods of hunger, our cells take longer to store fat. Apparently this 'memory' is only retained for one or two generations.

Personally I'd like to know how they ever prove that one way or the other. If it's true then I guess the next couple of generations will be skinny

They got that after looking at a few 100 years of meticulous records of crop yields from villages in places like Denmark and Sweden, then did experiments on animals that confirmed it. But I believe there were also correlations with health. The children of people who had extended calorie deficits were actually healthier on average.

Here's something. People who put on weight ALWAYS eat excess calories or misreport their calorie intake, meaning, epigenetics play a part, but only a part.

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Reply #17 - Oct 31^st, 2021 at 5:15pm

Gordon wrote on Oct 31^st, 2021 at 12:45pm:

I agree with you 100% here, Scoot. Here's what I reckon.

At the end of the day, the laws of thermodynamics rules all and its energy in minus energy out, and it doesn't matter if you're eating maccas, paleo or medeteranian. If your input is more than your output, you'll get fat. However, good luck trying to calorie control on maccas or the SAD.

My experience was after my 30s when I ate empty carbs and sugar my blood sugar would spike, I'd feel ravenous even after I had a big pasta meal and I'd over eat.
To compensate I'd have to do extra workouts and fast to make up for the overconsumption. I had the willpower so never got fat, but most don't. Their microbiome and blood sugar are screaming out to be fed.

For about two years now I've dropped all grains apart from oats, and eat mostly what you mentioned and never feel that gnawing hunger. On a rolling average I'm probably eating the same calories but without the over and under consumption.

I can have porridge with a tablespoon of whey powder at 7am, do a cardio workout and not feel any hunger until 4pm.

it seems quite obvious gordon.

you watch people start having a sarb snack, say a bowl of popcorn or potatoe chips.

they eat a few and then they just cant stop.

a lever has been flicked that say

"this is sweet, time to gorge ourselves and store fat because we may not get this chance again"

thats fine if you are an aborigine and come across honey once a year.

thats not fine if you are steve and jeneen and come across a maccas once a day

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Reply #18 - Oct 31^st, 2021 at 6:30pm

When I was a teen, I had always thought that I was either skinny, healthy, or slightly overweight. My parents showed me some old photos of myself that I barely recall having taken. One photo showed me doing a muscles pose. But I was anything other than muscular. I was probably 20kg overweight and lacked any noticeable muscular definition.

It was a big concern for me because I was relatively active at the time. Mum bought a meal replacement shake. I had breakfast. Lunch was the meal replacement shake. Then I would wait out the rest of the day to have dinner. I lost 10kg in that month. Whatever other excess weight I lost was through natural discipline and high school sports.

If a child is fat, they have been coddled too much by their parents and have developed some bad habits.

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Reply #19 - Oct 31^st, 2021 at 6:37pm

AiA wrote on Oct 31^st, 2021 at 4:34am:

Gordon wrote on Oct 30^th, 2021 at 7:37pm:

AiA wrote on Oct 30^th, 2021 at 7:04pm:

If I had fat kid I'd slip some cyanide into his Halloween candy ...

What would you do if your wife put on weight after you married?

A friend of mine years back married at 25 years old. His wife was the same age. 2 years later he was the same weight and she was a pig, so he divorced her. Her friends thought he was the pig for divorcing her. His friends saw things differently.

He grew apart from her because she grew? If she was deliberately getting herself fat, it would be understandable that the guy loses interest in her physically. But if the issue was her antisocial personality, then the divorce may be justifiable.

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Reply #20 - Oct 31^st, 2021 at 7:37pm

Took the little bloke trick or treating tonight, and he and all of his mates were literally stuffing lollies in their gobs as fast they could go. Most of the parents were trying to moderate it but I decided to see what would happen. Driving home he went really quiet was close to puking. When we got home he showed his mum the bucket of lollies, put it on the kitchen bench and didn't ask about them again.

After dinner I asked if he wanted dessert, he said, just some of the plain greek yoghurt my daughter eats. Let's see how long that lasts Grin

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Reply #22 - Oct 31^st, 2021 at 11:05pm

Kat wrote on Oct 31^st, 2021 at 1:30pm:

Being overweight has simply never been a problem for me.

I seem to be able to eat almost whatever I like, but never get fat.

My ex used to hate it, because she was the sort who couldn't walk
past a cake shop without gaining a pound (her words, not mine).

Down at the supermarket today, and Fat Steve and Janeen went out through the self-serve - to buy a cake and some biccies... in their twenties, and 'Steve would have to be twice my weight and flabby as... 'Janeen' not far behind.. thought:- 'That cake is the last thing they need."

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35323 Gender:	Re: Fat kids Reply #23 - Nov 1^st, 2021 at 2:18am This forum is so unbelievably hateful. Thank the gods it's dying.
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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 24730 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: Fat kids Reply #24 - Nov 1^st, 2021 at 2:35am mothra wrote on Nov 1^st, 2021 at 2:18am: This forum is so unbelievably hateful. Thank the gods it's dying. The forum is pretty depressing. Barely anything worthy of responding.
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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29355 Gender:	Re: Fat kids Reply #26 - Nov 1^st, 2021 at 6:55am UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 1^st, 2021 at 2:35am: mothra wrote on Nov 1^st, 2021 at 2:18am: This forum is so unbelievably hateful. Thank the gods it's dying. The forum is pretty depressing. Barely anything worthy of responding. There’s a simple solution to that…. For the pair of you.
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Reply #27 - Nov 1^st, 2021 at 7:10am

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Reply #28 - Nov 1^st, 2021 at 3:52pm

Gnads wrote on Nov 1^st, 2021 at 6:55am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 1^st, 2021 at 2:35am:

mothra wrote on Nov 1^st, 2021 at 2:18am:

This forum is so unbelievably hateful.

Thank the gods it's dying.

The forum is pretty depressing. Barely anything worthy of responding.

There’s a simple solution to that…. For the pair of you. Roll Eyes

Oh, really? There are actually two solutions. Other people either lift their standards in posting to this forum. Or we can accept that this forum is dead and move on.

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16550 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Fat kids Reply #29 - Nov 1^st, 2021 at 4:00pm AiA wrote on Oct 30^th, 2021 at 7:04pm: If I had fat kid I'd slip some cyanide into his Halloween candy ... A better solution might be...
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