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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17436 Gender:	Re: The new 'curve', DEMONISE THE UNVACCINATED! Reply #15 - Oct 31^st, 2021 at 6:53pm freediver wrote on Oct 31^st, 2021 at 6:50pm: Sounds like the vaccine saved lots of lives. Based on what? 7 out of 49?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17436 Gender:	Re: The new 'curve', DEMONISE THE UNVACCINATED! Reply #16 - Oct 31^st, 2021 at 6:54pm John Smith wrote on Oct 31^st, 2021 at 6:47pm: god you're a moron Poor petal. Has to go to his default position. Without benefit of anything - including common sense.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74360 Gender:	Re: The new 'curve', DEMONISE THE UNVACCINATED! Reply #17 - Oct 31^st, 2021 at 6:56pm lee wrote on Oct 31^st, 2021 at 6:54pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 31^st, 2021 at 6:47pm: god you're a moron Poor petal. Has to go to his default position. Without benefit of anything - including common sense. god you're a moron
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17436 Gender:	Re: The new 'curve', DEMONISE THE UNVACCINATED! Reply #18 - Oct 31^st, 2021 at 7:06pm Aren't you glad I won't descend to your level?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74360 Gender:	Re: The new 'curve', DEMONISE THE UNVACCINATED! Reply #19 - Oct 31^st, 2021 at 7:09pm lee wrote on Oct 31^st, 2021 at 7:06pm: Aren't you glad I won't descend to your level? god you're a moron
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Reply #20 - Oct 31^st, 2021 at 7:40pm

freediver wrote on Oct 31^st, 2021 at 6:50pm:

lee wrote on Oct 31^st, 2021 at 6:18pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 31^st, 2021 at 6:01pm:

The booster will last only till the next election

I wouldn't take anyone's word for that. Wink

"Government data, released to the ABC, has revealed 36 of the 49 aged care residents that died after contracting COVID-19 during NSW's Delta outbreak were fully vaccinated."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-15/data-shows-fully-vaccinated-deaths-in-nsw...

Sounds like the vaccine saved lots of lives.

Not necessarily, there's no real proof yet. The only real proof is to have a situation where everyone is fully vaccinated before a virus comes in, and then if it comes in, see if anyone gets infected

NSW cases started dropping from 24th Sep well before 70% fully vaxxed was achieved, so it must have been deserted streets, mask wearing and distancing that did it. As time went on, bods were probably becoming more aware they needed to do those things enthusiastically and not wait for mass vaccination. So far, vaccination has only been a song and a prayer. I'm double vaxxed but I'm certainly not relying on it because no one can say I'm out of danger

I'll keep doing the only things that have worked with this virus, wear my mask (actually it's two masks, one over the other), and stay away from infected areas

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48871 At my desk.	Re: The new 'curve', DEMONISE THE UNVACCINATED! Reply #21 - Oct 31^st, 2021 at 9:14pm lee wrote on Oct 31^st, 2021 at 6:53pm: freediver wrote on Oct 31^st, 2021 at 6:50pm: Sounds like the vaccine saved lots of lives. Based on what? 7 out of 49? Sure. What do you think it means?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17436 Gender:	Re: The new 'curve', DEMONISE THE UNVACCINATED! Reply #22 - Oct 31^st, 2021 at 9:31pm freediver wrote on Oct 31^st, 2021 at 9:14pm: Sure. What do you think it means? I wasn't sure what you meant. Sarcasm doesn't translate well to print. Perhaps you should have a sarcasm tag.
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Re: The new 'curve', DEMONISE THE UNVACCINATED!
Reply #23 - Oct 31^st, 2021 at 9:32pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 31^st, 2021 at 2:55pm:

If you are vaccinated, then by definition, YOUR
(sic)
ARE PROTECTED

... as this claim grown of 'ignorence" has been posted previously
- I'll just C&P the post from that occasion

buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 29^th, 2021 at 10:13pm:

Did I miss where it was claimed ...

ALL covid vaccines gave 100% protection
to ALL people, of ALL ages, against ALL illnesses ?

Perhaps if the
LJP
had been at
Colin Powell
's bedside
chanting the Torah
around the clock,
he may well have survived

It doesn't take too many background checks to establish
- again and again
- just what a disgraceful pack of
"lying c*nts"

the
anti-vax conspiracy theory
lobby really ARE

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17436 Gender:	Re: The new 'curve', DEMONISE THE UNVACCINATED! Reply #24 - Oct 31^st, 2021 at 9:38pm So tell us buzz or is it didj, why don't you trust the ABC on those 36 of 49 deaths that were fully vaccinated. A 14% success rate is a far cry from claiming "ALL covid vaccines gave 100% protection to ALL people, of ALL ages, against ALL illnesses".
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Reply #25 - Oct 31^st, 2021 at 9:40pm

lee wrote on Oct 31^st, 2021 at 9:31pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 31^st, 2021 at 9:14pm:

Sure. What do you think it means?

I wasn't sure what you meant. Sarcasm doesn't translate well to print. Perhaps you should have a sarcasm tag.

I wasn't being sarcastic. I think it sounds like it saved a lot of lives.

What conclusion did you draw from the numbers?

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21703 A cat with a view	Re: The new 'curve', DEMONISE THE UNVACCINATED! Reply #26 - Oct 31^st, 2021 at 9:49pm buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 31^st, 2021 at 9:32pm: Yadda wrote on Oct 31^st, 2021 at 2:55pm: If you are vaccinated, then by definition, YOUR (sic) ARE PROTECTED Ooooooooooooo, yes, you saw my typo. Oooooooo.........silly me !
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Reply #27 - Oct 31^st, 2021 at 9:51pm

freediver wrote on Oct 31^st, 2021 at 9:40pm:

What conclusion did you draw from the numbers?

A 14% success rate is a success? You really do set a low bar. Grin

It is an appalling failure. It may well have been more successful not to be "vaccinated".

According to the ABS those over 90 had a CFR of 40%, those 70-79 30%. And yet an 86% death rate is classed as good. Roll Eyes

https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/covid-19-mortality-0

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Re: The new 'curve', DEMONISE THE UNVACCINATED!
Reply #28 - Oct 31^st, 2021 at 10:00pm

lee wrote on Oct 31^st, 2021 at 9:38pm:

... a far cry from claiming "ALL covid vaccines gave 100% protection to ALL people, of ALL ages, against ALL illnesses". Wink

I wouldn't normally reply - you being a rather dull "wanna be elitest" and all

Perhaps you should speak to the
LJP
- who tacitly MADE the claim, that Covid vaccines GUARANTEED 100% protection

Only a scurrilous LIAR would try and attach MY name to it

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Reply #29 - Oct 31^st, 2021 at 10:14pm

cited, on a YOUTUBE thread......

Quote:

Syd Barrett

12 hours ago (edited)

I'm confused.

Can someone help me?

If the covid vaccine does not prevent the vaccinated from contracting covid
and does not prevent the vaccinated from spreading covid,
but only reduces symptoms,
does that mean over the counter drugs that help reduce symptoms for various ailments are also vaccines?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hfq9gBkwBE&lc=UgzfKxpLAbYmMO0UfqB4AaABAg

Syd Barrett, he is some kind of wit, isn't he ? hehe

FROM COMMENTS HERE.......

Dr John Campbell - Inconsistencies in official numbers

24 min
253,025 views
Oct 30, 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hfq9gBkwBE

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Yadda wrote on Oct 31^st, 2021 at 4:16pm:

FACT;
We have witnessed, that many, many people have been injected, with these supposed, COVID 'vaccines'.

QUESTION;
Why aren't we seeing those persons who have been vaccinated,
being protected from the COVID virus,
by these supposed COVID vaccines ?

It is a reasonable question, imo !

If 'VACCINE' suppliers had a real 'COVID VACCINE', then that real 'COVID VACCINE',
would be able to protect 'VACCINATED' people from the COVID VIRUS.

That, is what a 'COVID VACCINE' would be able to do.

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From the Oxford Dictionary.....

vaccinate

immunise

immune

------ >

n.b.
EXAMINE THE TRADITIONAL, AND REAL DEFINITION,
OF THE WORD VACCINATE !!!!!

Dictionary;
vaccinate = = treat with a vaccine to produce immunity against a disease.

Dictionary;
immunise = = make immune to infection, typically by inoculation.

Dictionary;
immune = =
1 resistant to a particular infection owing to the presence of specific antibodies or sensitized white blood cells.
2 not susceptible.

Pfiser, and Moderna, et al, imo, are not supplying the world, with any kind of product which could be characterised as a 'VACCINE'.

They do not 'work' !!

EVERYONE KNOWS IT !!!!

THE VAST MAJORITY, REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT.

WWW search....
Quote:

"Why do the protected need to be protected
from the unprotected, by forcing the unprotected,
to use the protection that didn't protect the protected in the first place?"

- Retired RN [at a public hearing, in Calif. ?]

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"None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth...."

Isaiah 5:20
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Isaiah 59:1
Behold, the LORD'S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:
2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.
4 None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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