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Re: Aussie used what fell off the back of a truck.
Reply #60 - Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:16pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 12:59pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 12:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 12:30pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 12:28pm:

Overwhelming evidence (where) of what?

https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/Screenshot_of_forged_name.jpg

Bobby ....I'm thinking of a certain colour right now.

That colour is also the same colour in the manipulative mind game driven id who goes into other people's PA accounts and changes their id, accesses their PMs and even posts from their accounts.

Any idea who that might be Bobby?

I have no evidence of any such activity.

The only way someone could do that is if
they were given a password and account name by an existing member.

I see.

That's correct Lisa,
even as Admin I don't have access to anyone's password.
I can only reset a password for a member.
If an admin reset a password and then used
that members account they would know as when they logged in they
could see activity such as PMs falsely sent out
or messages read when they had no notifications.
I would never betray anyone like that.

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Re: Aussie used what fell off the back of a truck.
Reply #61 - Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:18pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 12:59pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 12:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 12:30pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 12:28pm:

Overwhelming evidence (where) of what?

https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/Screenshot_of_forged_name.jpg

Bobby ....I'm thinking of a certain colour right now.

That colour is also the same colour in the manipulative mind game driven id who goes into other people's PA accounts and changes their id, accesses their PMs and even posts from their accounts.

Any idea who that might be Bobby?

I have no evidence of any such activity.

The only way someone could do that is if they were given a password and account name by an existing member.

I see.

Freediver addresses this very event on this website in Feedback.

"4) If ..... anyone else asks you for your login details here, at PA, or anywhere else, do not give it to him. It puts yours and everyone else's privacy at risk. I'm not sure if we have an explicit rule against this, but you will both be banned if you get caught. Be very sceptical of an admin or moderator who asks for your password to fix a technical problem with your account, or for any other reason."

Now....you have admitted that the only way Red could have done what he/she/it could have done is by being given log in password details.

Could you now explain to me why you as PA Admin ...have not permanently banned Red as per Freediver's rules and regulations pertaining to both Ozpol and PA on this very important matter?

Dear Lisa,
it would be better to discuss this at the real PA.
AGAIN:
I have no evidence of any wrong doing by a member.

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Re: Aussie used what fell off the back of a truck.
Reply #62 - Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:29pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:16pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 12:59pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 12:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 12:30pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 12:28pm:

Overwhelming evidence (where) of what?

https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/Screenshot_of_forged_name.jpg

Bobby ....I'm thinking of a certain colour right now.

That colour is also the same colour in the manipulative mind game driven id who goes into other people's PA accounts and changes their id, accesses their PMs and even posts from their accounts.

Any idea who that might be Bobby?

I have no evidence of any such activity.

The only way someone could do that is if
they were given a password and account name by an existing member.

I see.

That's correct Lisa,
even as Admin I don't have access to anyone's password.

I can only reset a password for a member.
If an admin reset a password and then used
that members account they would know as when they logged in they
could see activity such as PMs falsely sent out
or messages read when they had no notifications.
I would never betray anyone like that.

Exactly.

Bobby do you realise that in the past I myself had issues trying to log into PA.

I went straight to Freediver about that. He sorted it out by rebooting/resetting my password so I could jump in and then customise said password.

I didn't go to a PA GMod or even the PA Admin.

I went straight to the owner of PA.

Cods (for whatever reason and that's irrelevant now) allowed Red to do that.

They shared login password details.

It's a serious forum breach and at the time it took place .... you were there reading Red posting through COD's account.

My question again is why have you as PA Admin not addressed this breach as per forum rules pertaining to OzPol and PA sites?

I could ask a few more questions like :

Why were you sitting in that topic as it was happening and why didn't you immediately stop this from happening?

The only person who did speak up was ....Aussie.

And the very person who perpetrated said breach ie Red trolled Aussie for speaking up AND even threatened to have Aussie banned AGAIN and gloated that they had indeed succeeded in banning Aussie before by stating words to the effect ...like they did last time.

And all the while you were there and you stood back and ALLOWED this to proceed.

Bobby ...why?

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Re: Aussie used what fell off the back of a truck.
Reply #63 - Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:37pm

Do you want to see the evidence that:

1. A sewer GMod you support, acting under and with the authority of an EL you support;

2. Went to a sewer control panel, accessed a Members profile;

3. Having entered the profile, changed the password to that Member's account;

4. Logged out of their own account:

5. Logged back in...to that Member's account, using the new password, and:

6. Used that account.

Further:

Would you like evidence that:

1. A former EL and a current GMod appointed by you;

2. Using the ACP, entered a Member's profile;

3. Changed that Member's password;

4. Then handed that new password to a person who was not even a Member of the sewer;

5. Thus stealing the account and giving it, access to PMs included, to an outsider.

If I give you that evidence, what action will you take against the perpetrators and that activity?

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Re: Aussie used what fell off the back of a truck.
Reply #65 - Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:46pm

Aussie wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:37pm:

Do you want to see the evidence that:

1. A sewer GMod you support, acting under and with the authority of an EL you support;

2. Went to a sewer control panel, accessed a Members profile;

3. Having entered the profile, changed the password to that Member's account;

4. Logged out of their own account:

5. Logged back in...to that Member's account, using the new password, and:

6. Used that account.

Further:

Would you like evidence that:

1. A former EL and a current GMod appointed by you;

2. Using the ACP, entered a Member's profile;

3. Changed that Member's password;

4. Then handed that new password to a person who was not even a Member of the sewer;

5. Thus stealing the account and giving it, access to PMs included, to an outsider.

If I give you that evidence, what action will you take against the perpetrators and that activity?

Hi Aussie,
please PM me with all the details and evidence.
I would act very strongly if that was true.
I really doubt that though - I trust the Mods around me.

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Re: Aussie used what fell off the back of a truck.
Reply #66 - Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:52pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:29pm:

Exactly.

Bobby do you realise that in the past I myself had issues trying to log into PA.

I went straight to Freediver about that. He sorted it out by rebooting/resetting my password so I could jump in and then customise said password.

I didn't go to a PA GMod or even the PA Admin.

I went straight to the owner of PA.

Cods (for whatever reason and that's irrelevant now) allowed Red to do that.

They shared login password details.

It's a serious forum breach and at the time it took place .... you were there reading Red posting through COD's account.

My question again is why have you as PA Admin not addressed this breach as per forum rules pertaining to OzPol and PA sites?

I could ask a few more questions like :

Why were you sitting in that topic as it was happening and why didn't you immediately stop this from happening?

The only person who did speak up was ....Aussie.

And the very person who perpetrated said breach ie Red trolled Aussie for speaking up AND even threatened to have Aussie banned AGAIN and gloated that they had indeed succeeded in banning Aussie before by stating words to the effect ...like they did last time.

And all the while you were there and you stood back and ALLOWED this to proceed.

Bobby ...why?

Lisa,
AGAIN -
please take this to PA - not here -
it's embarrassing and it's not true.
You are slinging mud at the real PA hoping some will stick.

Why are you doing this?

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Re: Aussie used what fell off the back of a truck.
Reply #67 - Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:57pm

I have no idea Bobby why you're asking for evidence. You were there! It happened while you were logged in and posting in the very topic this serious forum breach took place.

You were an eye witness to it all.

If this was a real court hearing Bobby ... I would be issuing you with a subpoena post haste. Why?

YOU would be MY no 1 witness.

I have to this very date not been able to understand why you allowed it to happen and why you've not gone to Freediver about it.

Do you feel like you can't do this for some reason? Do you feel beholden to the ids Red and Black Orchid? Why???? That's what has me confused Bobby.

I'm seriously upset with you over this. And please don't tell me to go over to the REAL PA because there's nothing REAL there now. It's effectively dead and is being held to ransom by a number of multi FAKE ids.

You have lost control of that site. I can't stress this more emphatically but here goes: you are the Admin of PA in name only.

That's not right.

And I'll tell you another thing that's not right there which you've yet to wake up to: you recall from Yahoo how I lover numbers and mathematics and how I taught it for a few years? Well the first clue I got that something was terribly not right was when my eyes looked at the magic number. 4. It's never ever been so low.

That was the RED flag for me just there Bobby. The number 4.

I then immediately started reading back to see which ids had been trying to change the Constitution. I was looking for WHY that number was so low.

Lo and behold....I saw another RED flag. It was REDmond. The very person gloating about who IT can ban for speaking up about forum breaches and the very person who got into and posted from another member's account.

Any idea how angry I got when I realised this?

I don't like what's happening there and I don't like how you've been manipulated and your good nature has been taken advantage of. It's vexing for me as your friend to sit back and let this go.

That's why I'm speaking up like this. I actually care for you. And you already know that anyway.

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Re: Aussie used what fell off the back of a truck.
Reply #68 - Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:59pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:43pm:

Lisa,
Quote:

It's a serious forum breach and at the time it took place ....
you were there reading Red posting through COD's account.

That is absolute nonsense.
How could you say such a thing?
How could you prove that?

I read the entire topic and there you were. Encouraging it ffs!

IF said topic has now been conveniently deleted then you have a lot of explaining to do.

I really mean it Bobby.

I'm not afraid to stand up and tell the truth here Bobby.

If I were you I'd do the same. Tell the truth.

That's not mud slinging. It's mud cleaning!

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Re: Aussie used what fell off the back of a truck.
Reply #69 - Nov 9^th, 2021 at 2:02pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:43pm:

Lisa,
Quote:

It's a serious forum breach and at the time it took place ....
you were there reading Red posting through COD's account.

That is absolute nonsense.
How could you say such a thing?
How could you prove that?

I read the entire topic and there you were. Encouraging it ffs!

IF said topic has now been conveniently deleted then you have a lot of explaining to do.

I really mean it Bobby.

I'm not afraid to stand up and tell the truth here Bobby.

If I were you I'd do the same. Tell the truth.

That's not mud slinging. It's mud cleaning!

I honestly have no idea of what you're talking about.

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Re: Aussie used what fell off the back of a truck.
Reply #70 - Nov 9^th, 2021 at 2:17pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 2:02pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:43pm:

Lisa,
Quote:

It's a serious forum breach and at the time it took place ....
you were there reading Red posting through COD's account.

That is absolute nonsense.
How could you say such a thing?
How could you prove that?

I read the entire topic and there you were. Encouraging it ffs!

IF said topic has now been conveniently deleted then you have a lot of explaining to do.

I really mean it Bobby.

I'm not afraid to stand up and tell the truth here Bobby.

If I were you I'd do the same. Tell the truth.

That's not mud slinging. It's mud cleaning!

I honestly have no idea of what you're talking about.

You were there.

In that topic.

Posting away in it.

Are you now attempting to rescript history by saying that none of this happened? At all? Look up gaslighting Bobby. It's what you're doing!

Is that what you've been told to say by Black Orchid/Redmond?

Think carefully before you answer. I have screenshots. They will be going to Freediver after your next response. Those screenshots will tell the story. In its entirety.

If I were you I'd come clean now.

Tell the truth. It's all you have left.

Question : Are you saying that there is no topic there at PA now which clearly evidenced the forum breach which has been clearly outlined here? Yes or no?

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Re: Aussie used what fell off the back of a truck.
Reply #71 - Nov 9^th, 2021 at 2:20pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 2:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 2:02pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:43pm:

Lisa,
Quote:

It's a serious forum breach and at the time it took place ....
you were there reading Red posting through COD's account.

That is absolute nonsense.
How could you say such a thing?
How could you prove that?

I read the entire topic and there you were. Encouraging it ffs!

IF said topic has now been conveniently deleted then you have a lot of explaining to do.

I really mean it Bobby.

I'm not afraid to stand up and tell the truth here Bobby.

If I were you I'd do the same. Tell the truth.

That's not mud slinging. It's mud cleaning!

I honestly have no idea of what you're talking about.

You were there.

In that topic.

Posting away in it.

Are you now attempting to rescript history by saying that none of this happened? At all?

Is that what you've been told to say by Black Orchid/Redmond?

Think carefully before you answer. I have screenshots. They will be going to Freediver after your next response. Those screenshots will tell the story. In its entirety.

If I were you I'd come clean now.

Tell the truth. It's all you have left.

First question : Are you saying that there is no topic there at PA now which clearly evidenced the forum breach which has been clearly outlined here? Yes or no?

I don't know what you're talking about.

This thread was started by me to defend you from
Aussie impugning your reputation with a screenshot
from Sparta and adding your name to it -
it's not about me or PA.

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Re: Aussie used what fell off the back of a truck.
Reply #72 - Nov 9^th, 2021 at 2:29pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 2:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 2:02pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:43pm:

Lisa,
Quote:

It's a serious forum breach and at the time it took place ....
you were there reading Red posting through COD's account.

That is absolute nonsense.
How could you say such a thing?
How could you prove that?

I read the entire topic and there you were. Encouraging it ffs!

IF said topic has now been conveniently deleted then you have a lot of explaining to do.

I really mean it Bobby.

I'm not afraid to stand up and tell the truth here Bobby.

If I were you I'd do the same. Tell the truth.

That's not mud slinging. It's mud cleaning!

I honestly have no idea of what you're talking about.

You were there.

In that topic.

Posting away in it.

Are you now attempting to rescript history by saying that none of this happened? At all? Look up gaslighting Bobby. It's what you're doing!

Is that what you've been told to say by Black Orchid/Redmond?

Think carefully before you answer. I have screenshots. They will be going to Freediver after your next response. Those screenshots will tell the story. In its entirety.

If I were you I'd come clean now.

Tell the truth. It's all you have left.

Question : Are you saying that there is no topic there at PA now which clearly evidenced the forum breach which has been clearly outlined here? Yes or no?

Topics change course. As an Admin you should know that.

Please stop deflecting.

Is the topic in which all this Red login sharing BS took place still there at PA or has it been deleted?

Bobby? What is your answer?

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Re: Aussie used what fell off the back of a truck.
Reply #73 - Nov 9^th, 2021 at 2:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:46pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 9^th, 2021 at 1:37pm:

Do you want to see the evidence that:

1. A sewer GMod you support, acting under and with the authority of an EL you support;

2. Went to a sewer control panel, accessed a Members profile;

3. Having entered the profile, changed the password to that Member's account;

4. Logged out of their own account:

5. Logged back in...to that Member's account, using the new password, and:

6. Used that account.

Further:

Would you like evidence that:

1. A former EL and a current GMod appointed by you;

2. Using the ACP, entered a Member's profile;

3. Changed that Member's password;

4. Then handed that new password to a person who was not even a Member of the sewer;

5. Thus stealing the account and giving it, access to PMs included, to an outsider.

If I give you that evidence, what action will you take against the perpetrators and that activity?

Hi Aussie,
please PM me with all the details and evidence.
I would act very strongly if that was true.
I really doubt that though - I trust the Mods around me.

Be very specific.

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Re: Aussie used what fell off the back of a truck.
Reply #74 - Nov 9^th, 2021 at 2:34pm

Lisa,
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Question : Are you saying that there is no topic there at PA now which clearly evidenced the forum breach which has been clearly outlined here? Yes or no?

Lisa,
I don't know -
what do you want me to do?
search through 29,000 posts chasing a red herring?
Come back to PA - and deal with it there showing links.
Why are you are at Ozpolitic putting rubbish on PA?
What sort of loyal PA member would do that?

You are you so argumentative and quarrelsome -
did you get out of the wrong side of bed this morning?

God help me.

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