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SBS At 8.30 Could You Survive On The Breadline
Nov 17th, 2021 at 6:11am
 
‘Could You Survive On The Breadline?’ takes a look at the lives of Australians struggling to make ends meet

Three well-known and very different Australians go on a journey to gain insight into the world of poverty and disadvantage facing those on welfare.


Modern life is an expensive undertaking and for the city of Sydney and its surrounds, soaring house prices and an above average cost of living can put a serious strain on the purse strings of those who call it home.

Australia spends over one hundred and eighty billion dollars a year on welfare, more than it does on health, education and defence combined. It might sound like an impressive figure, but as NSW Greens MP Jenny Leong, journalist Caleb Bond and author and TV personality Julie Goodwin discover in SBS’s new three-part documentary series Could You Survive On The Breadline?, it falls short of meeting the needs of the thousands of Australians who rely on it to get by.   Sad

The series sees Jenny, Caleb and Julie go on separate immersive journeys to experience what day-to-day life is really like for welfare recipients in three distinct Australian communities. They must survive on government payments to not only buy necessities and pay bills, but cover the cost of their accommodation as well, and in doing so face the difficult decisions that are daily occurrences for welfare and low-income earners.



Each of the contributors has a very different reason for wanting to participate in the nine-day experiment. For Julie, it’s the memory of her own struggle to make ends meet when she was younger that leads her to want to unpack some of the stigma surrounding unemployment. In Jenny’s case, it’s her firm belief that more needs to be done to assist the disadvantaged, and that “no one should be too poor to be able to live.” Like many Australians, Caleb has been outspoken in his criticism of the welfare system, having previously compared the dependency of those receiving payments to that of heroin users, but he is now ready to have his perspective challenged and listen to the people who know life on the breadline best.

At the beginning of their journeys, each of the contributors must give up all access to their current lives, and leave the comfort of their homes to travel to three different locations where they will spend just over a week living on the breadline: an inner city community, the outer suburbs, and a regional area. It’s a confronting and very obvious shift for all three, and they are visibly shocked by the circumstances in which they find themselves. Caleb is faced with inner city life on a disability payment, where the maximum amount for a single adult is just $868 a fortnight, and witnesses the sacrifices that must be made to ensure every dollar counts. Julie finds herself with just over $40 a day to cover her costs courtesy of the Jobseeker allowance, and discovers the challenges that come with life in emergency accommodation in south-west Sydney. Jenny journeys out of Sydney to the Illawarra region and comes to understand just how critical safe and secure housing is for a single mum living on welfare.


NSW Greens MP Jenny Leong in ‘Could You Survive On The Breadline?’
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As the series continues, and each of the three immerses themselves in the lives of the struggling households surviving on welfare, the real impacts of disadvantage begin to show. In 2020, there were 3.24 million people (13.6% of the Australian population) living below the poverty line. The OECD defines the poverty line as half the median household income of the total population, which in Australia translates to $457 a week for a single adult living alone. It’s sobering, then, to realise that Jobseeker for a single adult with no children is currently around $310 a week. Throw the disadvantage brought about by the pandemic into the mix, and the outlook for many people who rely on these payments is dismal.

It’s hard not to get emotional listening to the effects of this constant uncertainty and instability and Jenny, Caleb and Julie become more determined to search for ways to address the problem. Employment is the obvious place to start, but as each undertake their own job hunt, they are disheartened by the lack of opportunity and all notions of a quick fix prove to be misinformed. This is a long-term problem that requires a long-term solution; a one-size-fits-all approach has no place here.

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Reply #1 - Nov 17th, 2021 at 6:15am
 
The more the contributors listen to those generous enough to allow them into their lives, the more it becomes clear that, as a nation, there exists a problematic attitude within our society that it’s easy to simply ‘get off welfare’. This belief that self-sufficiency is possible for all is one that is proven wrong time and time again throughout the series, and there is a very real sense that the individuals that find themselves in these situations could be any one of us. The stories they share reveal that an unexpected job loss, chronic illness or violent relationship can be all it takes to transform a life of relative comfort into one of poverty and reliance on government payments. When you add the barriers presented by disability, lack of opportunity and stigma, getting off welfare is a far more complex and challenging task than most of us could ever realise.

The series is a powerful reminder that there are real people behind the statistics, and that the ability of a person of privilege to make informed decisions about what those who experience disadvantage are entitled to is limited at best. The individuals Jenny, Caleb and Julie meet along the way will inspire you, challenge you, and leave you questioning whether life on the breadline can ever be considered a choice after all.

Could You Survive On The Breadline? premieres exclusively at 8.30pm, Wednesday 17 November on SBS and SBS On Demand. Episodes air weekly over three weeks. Watch the trailer now:

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Reply #2 - Nov 17th, 2021 at 7:02am
 
The problem is that people no longer want to be responsible for their own poor choices.

An abusive partner does not "Just happen" its obvious from the start of any relationship.

Job loss is prevented by being a valuable employee or even looking for better jobs all the time.
Never settle into a single job, always be on the lookout and up-skill constantly.

And you should be putting away money for "rainy days"
Do you really need to go out every night, that new car, that brand new house, the new furniture, the latest phone or tech gear?
And drinking and smoking are a huge hit to the hip pocket, just stop it.

Illness cannot be helped, but sometimes life choices contribute quite a lot.
But that's what the welfare system is there for, not to support you indefinitely, but to help you over the rough spots.

We have reached the position now where people are living full time on welfare, not even trying to get a job.
We have entire cultures who never even pretend to try, but continue to demand more and more.

The problem is that workers pay through the nose for these bludgers.
I was paying 48 cents in the dollar for much of my earnings.
I received half of my bonuses, the other half being taken in tax for my efforts.
This money, which I earned was then handed over to people who just cant be bothered.

And don't say there is no work, that's a cop out.
I saw on the news last night immigrants flooding in to work on farms and in businesses that say they cant get people to fill.

The problem is that the dole bludgers think they are too good for that kind of work.

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I HAVE A DREAM
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A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

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Reply #3 - Nov 17th, 2021 at 8:15am
 
More whinging by Valkie, he must be a treat to live with. I bet the missus gets dinner exactly right, or else.
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Reply #4 - Nov 17th, 2021 at 8:27am
 
rhino wrote on Nov 17th, 2021 at 8:15am:
More whinging by Valkie, he must be a treat to live with. I bet the missus gets dinner exactly right, or else.


And more pointless trolling by the sad lonely little man rhino.

Have you not got a job to go to?

Oh, silly me, your on the dole, arent you?
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Reply #5 - Nov 17th, 2021 at 8:31am
 
Come on, whats keeping you.

Is it getting too hard to switch persona????
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A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
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Reply #6 - Nov 17th, 2021 at 9:59am
 
Julie Goodwin, Jenny Leong MP and Caleb Bond ask themselves, ‘Could You

Over three million Australians were recorded as living below the poverty line last year. What does everyday life look like for people who rely on welfare?

In this three-part documentary series, author and TV personality Julie Goodwin, NSW Greens MP Jenny Leong and journalist Caleb Bond will go on their own separate journeys to experience living on the welfare system to see what it’s really like. They are each sent to a different community – inner city, outer suburban and regional Australia – to gain insight into the poverty and entrenched disadvantage experienced by so many people in this country. It will be a confronting and emotional experience for all three.

Handing over their credit cards, over three episodes, Julie, Caleb and Jenny meet and live with Australians navigating life on various forms of welfare. They learn about the challenges first-hand from a single mother raising four children, a woman caring for her ill husband, a young parent living in a rodent-infested house and a man who lost his job due to COVID-19, among many others.

In some cases, necessities like proper heating, secure and safe accommodation, adequate health care and a decent diet have to be done without.   Sad



“I fervently believe that in a first-world country like ours, there is enough for everyone to not just survive, but to thrive,” said Julie. “Yet somehow, our resources are not being shared equitably and it is the most vulnerable who end up with the least. Those with the least power, the smallest voices, the fewest opportunities to create real change for themselves.

“I was privileged to take part in a series that not only addresses issues of inequality and inequity, but also challenges the damaging and pervasive stereotypes that surround people living in poverty.”

Caleb, a Sky News commentator and journalist for News Limited, says that welfare is “not meant to be an income”, nor is it meant to be “comfortable”. He called it a “difficult and eye-opening experience” to briefly experience others’ daily lives on no or low wages for this series. “There are people who are genuinely struggling and can’t seem to get the help they need. You’d like to think governments spend our taxes wisely on those who need help, but I saw waste and bureaucratic incompetence at every turn.”



Jenny, Member for Newtown, has experience working “with people living in public housing and communities impacted by poverty” and she highlighted that while her participation on this show was short-lived, “for so many, this insecurity and uncertainty [of living in substandard housing with little money and a lack of control] is their reality – there is no end in sight. It’s critical that we expose this reality: too often people live in poverty because of choices made by those in power.”   Sad 



Jenny continues. “These choices have real consequences and they do real damage to some of the most vulnerable people in our community. The system is so broken that it can be impossible to survive within it, and it is most certainly impossible to thrive – and that’s heartbreaking because it doesn’t have to be that way.”



Go on the journey with Julie, Caleb and Jenny over three weeks and consider whether you Could Survive on the Breadline? Look out for a range of other stories, discussions and programs exploring living on welfare that will be available across the SBS network, including on SBS Guide, SBS Voices, SBS Radio, NITV, news and current affairs programs and SBS On Demand over the coming weeks.
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Reply #7 - Nov 17th, 2021 at 12:21pm
 
They should actually go out and live 'there' for a week or two to really get a grip on the issues.  Bet their views will change dramatically, even if they are starting from an open-minded POV now or even a sympathetic POV.

No plan survives the first whiff of poverty powder..... and the hard reality of getting food and shelter for the night... wearing jeans, hoodie, shirt and joggers only.... better still.. they should do it in winter with no preparation.

Here's forty dollars - one parachute per person... door at the rear of the aircraft...
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Reply #8 - Nov 17th, 2021 at 1:39pm
 
An interesting experiment, but is 9 days really long enough? One month would give a real insight into living on the breadline.

On the other hand, a few years back I saw a similar show where a young whizz kid who had made a fortune before he was 25 went onto the streets for few days to see how the other half lived. One young woman began abusing him, saying it was all right for him, he had somewhere to go while she had nothing and the system was keeping her down etc.

He listened to her tirade and said " All right, here's my card. Be at my office 0900 tomorrow morning and I will find you a place in my company. No matter about your skills, we will give you training and find you something to do.

A few days later the TV crew went back to his office to see how the girl was getting on...she never showed.
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Reply #9 - Nov 17th, 2021 at 3:04pm
 
Caleb Bond on the TV experiment that totally changed his opinion of welfare
Columnist Caleb Bond is well-known for his conservative views - but one opinion changed drastically after he took part in a bold TV experiment.

News.com.au
November 17, 2021

Welfare recipients have long argued that politicians ought to live like them for a while to see how they like it.

Unlike most politicians, I can now say I’ve done it.

Granted – nine days is a lot shorter than most people endure on welfare and I was followed by television cameras. But it is, nevertheless, able to provide a stark insight many others will not have seen or experienced.

When I agreed to film the SBS series Could You Survive On The Breadline?, I obviously came with a set of preconceived notions. Dare I suggest that’s half the reason they invited me on.

My dislike of the welfare state is well publicised – both in terms of personal and corporate welfare.

As the beneficiary of what I’d call a “normal” working class upbringing, my experiences of welfare were limited to family tax benefits.


Caleb Bond on Could You Survive On The Breadline?
So as someone who went in with fresh eyes, let me say, categorically, that the state of welfare and public housing in this country is worse than an outsider could have imagined.   Sad

As an example, I spent a night with a man by the name of Pierre, who lives in a housing commission flat in Surry Hills in Sydney.

The housing commission refused to provide enough bins for the building, or empty them often enough, so when the bins were full people would put their rubbish outside.   Sad


That, of course, attracted rats. The place was swarming with them.

When one of these rats died underneath Pierre’s floorboards, the housing commission didn’t come out to pull up a floorboard or two to remove it.

They put him up in a hotel for a week so the rat could decompose and stop smelling.

He previously battled mould in his bathroom while the housing commission refused to install a fan.

The cost of putting him in a hotel could have covered that fan and then some.

But, sadly, the system does not appear terribly concerned with actually helping people in need out of the holes in which they find themselves.

And if that’s not the objective, you are simply consigning people to lifelong misery.

I believe in personal responsibility and the ability of the individual, but you have to give them a leg up.

Pierre and others who do not have the capacity to work full-time, or who cannot get full-time employment, told me that they would like to be able to do a little bit of work to supplement their welfare incomes.

But if they did that, they risked losing their entire welfare benefit – which would leave them in an even worse position.

Caleb Bond says he was ‘extremely moved’ during his time filming.

For them, seeking work was likely to see them worse off. So again, the system provides no springboard for people to improve their lot in life.

I would not previously have advocated for raising the rate of JobSeeker. And I still don’t believe that raising the rate, in and of itself, is a silver bullet to improve the lives of those on welfare.

But it is one potential cog in a system that ought to be completely rebuilt.

I met people who, through shrewd financial management, did not struggle to get by. I met others who, for various reasons, struggled immensely.

Because people are different. And in this case, they are dealing with a one-size-fits-all system.

You give $40 to someone in Adelaide and they will likely be able to make it go further than someone in Sydney. But there’s no acknowledgment of these disparities and it is holding people back – in some cases for the entirety of their lives.

Extra money would improve some people’s lives. Physical support would help others. But as it stands, there is no room for any of this.

It’s not hard to see why some people would feel so beaten that they cannot see a way out.

As a taxpayer, the government compulsorily takes a significant portion of my income to spend on whatever it sees fit. And it spends on welfare to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars each year.

We, as a country, should expect that money to be spent in the best way possible to provide for those less fortunate.

That is not happening. It fails those who rely on welfare to survive. And it fails us as a country.


I was extremely moved during my time filming. The people I met – and the people you will watch – are largely just trying their best. But, to this nation’s great shame, they are continually failed by the system.   Sad

Watch Caleb Bond in Could You Survive On The Breadline? tonight, Wednesday, November 17 at 8.30pm on SBS and airing over three weeks.
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Valkie wrote on Nov 17th, 2021 at 7:02am:
The problem is that people no longer want to be responsible for their own poor choices.

An abusive partner does not "Just happen" its obvious from the start of any relationship.

Job loss is prevented by being a valuable employee or even looking for better jobs all the time.
Never settle into a single job, always be on the lookout and up-skill constantly.

And you should be putting away money for "rainy days"
Do you really need to go out every night, that new car, that brand new house, the new furniture, the latest phone or tech gear?
And drinking and smoking are a huge hit to the hip pocket, just stop it.

Illness cannot be helped, but sometimes life choices contribute quite a lot.
But that's what the welfare system is there for, not to support you indefinitely, but to help you over the rough spots.

We have reached the position now where people are living full time on welfare, not even trying to get a job.
We have entire cultures who never even pretend to try, but continue to demand more and more.

The problem is that workers pay through the nose for these bludgers.
I was paying 48 cents in the dollar for much of my earnings.
I received half of my bonuses, the other half being taken in tax for my efforts.
This money, which I earned was then handed over to people who just cant be bothered.

And don't say there is no work, that's a cop out.
I saw on the news last night immigrants flooding in to work on farms and in businesses that say they cant get people to fill.

The problem is that the dole bludgers think they are too good for that kind of work.



I agree. The problem is most people don't want to go on the DSP and live in public housing. They're just too lazy to put in the forms.

Typical. Better check your video recorder, Matty. Immigrants haven't been flooding into the country for the last two years.

Old Today Tonight episode, was it? I thought you used all those tapes for your porn collection.
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