Bobby. wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2021 at 6:37am:


I did a reasonably in depth search & could find no link or information to verify that claim.

Besides that TB is still in quite a few places globally.

We have it on our door step in Papua New Guinea.

& there are active cases in Australia.

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Bobby. wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2021 at 12:18pm:



You're actually a goat rooter.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2021 at 1:20pm:


well thats fluffy thought bubbles.

but i am talking about the reality of what happens in the next decade or so.

their are not enough public hospital beds or enough dollars to do all things for all people.

will we delay the treatment of a 10 yo with leukemia so a 85 with dementia can get a spot in a hospital for a myriad of issues?

there will be health rationing.

there is rationing of every other very expensive resource,

we dont need death panels but we need to have a discussion about what should be provided to whom and in what location.

or the system collapses.

we have already seen that in greece.

no chemo for young women with breast cancer.  the system could not fund it.

and to the covid obsessed, it should be obvious that without a functional thriving economy, you wont even have a public hospital system

6 bed wetters with severe death anxiety.

they can fret and fuss as much as they want.

it doesnt change the demographic fact that many many many elderly australians are not going to recieve the "pull out all stops " treatment.

there is not enough capacity in the system and this trend gets worse, year on year into the future.

you would probably be better to let covid establish herd immunity now then keep it out and let it increase illness in the years to come , because each year, as the populations ages and gets more unhealthy, there are less and less resources to go around.

Carl D wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2021 at 4:13pm:



a very noisy minority

Welcome Irishman.
May our new Submarines have flyscreens on them, like yours has.

Seriously though.
Its really about 'culture'.
When World War 1 fested the Pneumonic Pandemic from rotting bodies in stagnant muddy trenches mixed with the gases and chemicals used in the war with crowding in the trenches and under a festering sun... and the Militaries that were involved spread it around the world...
...only 1/3rd of the world's population was infected (directly) and of that 1/3rd - a whopping 50 million people died, DOUBLE more than the World War 1 that claimed in lives.

Now what goes around, comes around. Again a 'military' oppressed nation festers another Pandemic Virus (probably helped with Pollution and 'filthy' living standards. Though China and USA would say it was made in a Lab, because that's the 'cheaper' excuse, than the costly responsibility of 'cleaning' up their nations and their act like Climate Control, etc ).
This time, World War 3 WILL follow from all the Nations that have gone bankrupt and other 'financial/economic' problems.

Now consider this. If one region of the world was like a Political Parliment House full of Politicians and another was like a Hospital full of healthy people, etc - chances are, the former will suffer the effects of a Pandemic more so because their 'priorities' go against the grain in dealing with a Pandemic. So you could say, more 'political' people will die from a Pandemic, than say - Medical.

So with this in account. A 'Lockdown' is the best 'preventative' course of action against a Pandemic. Remember, 2/3rds of the World 100 years ago did NOT suffer the 'deadly' effects of the due to being more 'isolated' from interacting with the 'sick' nations (like the Political/Military/Religious dominated cultures).
When you have a 'fire' in a building, you 'isolate' it as your first course of action, before it inflames more so, everywhere else.

Now Australia is a sub-ordinated nation of lazy political people (by majority) who still suckle on the teat of the UK and grovel to the USA via their Prime Ministers. To lazy to run their own country and tell the PM and USA where to go with it's criminal 'international' agendas of selfish gain.
Australians do talk about a 'Republic' - but here in the Southern Hemisphere, a Republic would be nothing like what it is and historically has been in the Northern Hemisphere. It would be nothing like a Chinese or Irish Republic or even a USA Republican culture.
Politics in the North is only for the 'political' people - not the 'massive more' everyone else... like peasants.

So Lockdowns seem to only scuttle Economies dominated by Politics, Military and Religious priorities. But Lockdowns are easy-peasy for other nations/cultures around the world (Like Cuba and New Zealand) that accommodate a higher standard of Medical 'culture' in their nation.

The only reason why our USA representative called Scott Morrison forced a NSW Premier to 'take it easy' and let the Virus burn out of control into a now 'wild-fire' of a spread, is because his 'political' control of the country was slipping and he was afraid that 'Politics' would lose control, like Trump lost the USA Election. Of course, the Democrats used the Covid-Virus as a priority to jilt Trump from office, but now in - they revert back to a more 'political', rather than 'medical' stance.

Scott Morrison, got very jealous that the Australian Premiers were doing a better job than him (he did let the virus in in the first place via Cruise Liners) and we became #1 Economy IN THE WORLD under them, even though were were under Lockdown.

So to bring it into perspective: Nations who's Economies are heavily dependent on the 'cultures' of Political/Military/Religious 'power' - are more likely to suffer both economically and with higher death rates than more 'medically' MINDFUL nations who take a more seriously and don't the lives of their people by making 30% of the population by allowing the Virus to run rampant beyond lockdown control, via a 70% Vaccination target.

When Covid erupted around the world. Medical Professionals were often on TV. But now ScoMo and the other Politicians have pushed them aside to hog the limelight and talk about sticking their noses in on China's business with such STUPID things as Taiwan (belongs to China, regardless of Political stance, as did Hong Kong and 15% of Russia that the USSR stole from China).

This is why more people will die.
This is why the Pandemic will claim more than 50million, in a world now of over 8 Billion, in a world of more international 'access/connecting'.

...and like I said at the start, "what goes around, comes around" - you could say when DOUBLE the amount of people die in World War 3, than the Covid Pandemic...
well, karma's a biatch.

So my dear Irishman. Keep your legs together and when your local Mayor tries to blow off a threat of a giant shark called Jaws threatening the local economy via Tourism, etc.

Well, that didn't take long.

SA records two positive COVID-19 cases after borders open to ACT, NSW and Victoria

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I'm sure the rest of the mainstream media will eventually get around to reporting this as well (when they've finished milking the "feel good" stories about "reuniting families" for all its worth).

aquascoot wrote on Nov 24^th, 2021 at 3:07pm:

Abandoned family Christmas dinners and the rise in assault rates at Christmas might speak to that.