Belgarion wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 3:48pm:


Interesting comment.

What form would these reparations take?

And is the problem founded in consumption of animals?

Banning consumption of certain kinds of meat throws up cultural issues...should we all be eating less meat?

aquascoot wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 5:13pm:

All, every, none... (little baited hook there!)

There are plenty of videos that have escaped the cartel's mass suppression of media for which the uploaders have risked their lives... Except that which is permitted by the cartel.

Poverty, begging and drug addiction is rife in rural China and along the fringes of cities... Wherever tourists are prohibited from travelling.

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 4:44pm:


1. Payment for the loss of global productivity, amount to be determined by an international court, paid to the UN to be distributed as decided by them.

2. Renunciation of all claims to the Republic of China.

3. Demilitarisation of the South China Sea and renunciation of all territorial claims there.

4. Withdrawal of Chinese troops from Tibet and recognition of Tibet as as  sovereign nation.

5. Recognition of Chinese theft of intellectual property and reparations made, to be decided by an international court. 

6. Cessation of persecution of ethnic and religious minorities. This process to be overseen by international observers.

These points will do for a start. If China wants to be recognised as a civilised nation it will comply, otherwise sanctions must be imposed until the PRC government sees sense.   

aquascoot wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 8:29pm:

Who can barely leave Beijing (and never leave China) for fear of overthrow or assassination.

rhino wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 9:59pm:


You forgot about Hong Kong.... lease it to the Brits again and let it flourish.

Belgarion wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 8:07pm:


You mean an international court, to which the US has refused to join?

"The United States government has consistently opposed an international court that could hold US military and"

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So now China is to be broken up because a virus escaped from a Wuhan wet market?

The ROC itself, until recently,  claimed to be the sole government of all China. Biden of course is talking out of both sides of his mouth re Taiwan independence, because he is not sure he can win a war with the PRC in the Taiwan straits.

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....while China is bordered  by US military bases in the Western Pacific?

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As late as 1943, the US insisted Tibet was part of China. After 1949 and the CCP victory, the US  changed its mind.....

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...while the WTO has been neutered by the US who is hindering reform of its operations and blocking election of WTO officials  (as expected, since "America First" is incompatible  with global fair trade rules....)

In any case, Xi has admitted to IP theft in the past, taking advantage of US companies' greed to access cheap labor in China. But now China is wealthy enough to out compete the US in funding R&D.

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Yes, well, some religious minorities with  global terrorist proclivities need careful management to eliminate terrorist acts, as China is achieving in Xinjiang;  another method  is to try to bomb them out of existence, as the US attempted in Afghanistan, but failed. 

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The PRC is striving for common prosperity, something that adversarial  multi party democracies - controlled by 'invisible hand'  markets alone - can never achieve.

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 2:51pm:


US now is going to pour tons of money into infrastructure. This is a bit learning from China. However, US still spends too much money in military.

The flaw in this is that China is a 'one race only' society - mostly Han Chinese.

Try living in a Nation where so many different variants of peoples and cultures are thrown together mish-mash

China in essence is a sterile fragile nation.