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Victor Sunny Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 379 Gender:	Re: Living in China vs Living in America - Truly shock Reply #75 - Dec 4^th, 2021 at 5:30pm Johnnie wrote on Dec 4^th, 2021 at 5:25pm: Its lucky the Commonwealth of Australia shut down dictator Dan from the Chink Belts And Roads programme here. That's fool monster politician does. Australia even doesn't have 160km/h railway. A lots of countries have 350km/h railway.
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Reply #76 - Dec 4^th, 2021 at 5:33pm

Victor Sunny wrote on Dec 4^th, 2021 at 5:30pm:

Johnnie wrote on Dec 4^th, 2021 at 5:25pm:

Its lucky the Commonwealth of Australia shut down dictator Dan from the Chink Belts And Roads programme here.

Australia even doesn't have 160km/h railway. A lots of countries have 350km/h railway.

Jeez that's pretty fast, i don't know if i want to go that fast on a train with all the hazards around.

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Reply #77 - Dec 4^th, 2021 at 5:34pm

Victor Sunny wrote on Dec 4^th, 2021 at 4:54pm:

Laos opens Chinese built $5.9 bn Belt & Road railway

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Transportation/China-Laos-railway-begins-with-l...

https://dwvyw8kf1avne.cloudfront.net/s3fs-public/inline-images/China-Laos-Map.jp...

https://i0.wp.com/www.thailand-business-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/tgv-...

"The three routes use three different gauges".

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Reply #78 - Dec 4^th, 2021 at 5:37pm

Victor Sunny wrote on Dec 4^th, 2021 at 4:54pm:

Laos opens Chinese built $5.9 bn Belt & Road railway

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Transportation/China-Laos-railway-begins-with-l...

https://dwvyw8kf1avne.cloudfront.net/s3fs-public/inline-images/China-Laos-Map.jp...

https://i0.wp.com/www.thailand-business-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/tgv-...

I, for one, welcome our new insect Over Lords.

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Reply #79 - Dec 4^th, 2021 at 5:43pm

Frank wrote on Dec 4^th, 2021 at 5:34pm:

Victor Sunny wrote on Dec 4^th, 2021 at 4:54pm:

Laos opens Chinese built $5.9 bn Belt & Road railway

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Transportation/China-Laos-railway-begins-with-l...

https://dwvyw8kf1avne.cloudfront.net/s3fs-public/inline-images/China-Laos-Map.jp...

https://i0.wp.com/www.thailand-business-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/tgv-...

"The three routes use three different gauges".

The middle route uses standard gauge and will extend to Bangkok soon.

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Reply #81 - Dec 4^th, 2021 at 5:58pm

lee wrote on Dec 4^th, 2021 at 5:48pm:

Victor Sunny wrote on Dec 4^th, 2021 at 5:30pm:

Australia even doesn't have 160km/h railway. A lots of countries have 350km/h railway.

What population size makes a 350km/h railway viable? Or even 160Km/h? Wink

Laos population is 7.2 million much less than Australia 26 million.

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Reply #82 - Dec 5^th, 2021 at 1:28pm

Victor Sunny wrote on Dec 4^th, 2021 at 4:54pm:

Laos opens Chinese built $5.9 bn Belt & Road railway

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Transportation/China-Laos-railway-begins-with-l...

https://dwvyw8kf1avne.cloudfront.net/s3fs-public/inline-images/China-Laos-Map.jp...

https://i0.wp.com/www.thailand-business-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/tgv-...

The "Asian century" is in full swing, under the leadership of China's BRI. Meanwhile the EU is attempting a feeble alternative, with its recently announced Euro 500 billion "Global Gateway" 'values based' initiative". It will probably last as long as Biden's B3W project, because the EU and US can't even repair infrastructure in their own countries, neverlone in the developing world, as China is doing.

But in any case the BRI is inspiring many imitators...which is a good thing for global development.

Without the BRI, the greedy West would not have been interested in 3rd world development at all.

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Reply #83 - Dec 5^th, 2021 at 8:49pm

Nobody wants to be like China. Not even most Chinese.

The oil rich Arabs are also awash with money but nobody wants to be like them, either - except the Chinese.

The IDEA of China is repellent for everyone, even those who take their money.
Money is all to a hungry people, like China. China has no greater collective memory than centuries of starvation and famine.
That's one reason why they eat anything.

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Reply #84 - Dec 6^th, 2021 at 3:33pm

Frank wrote on Dec 5^th, 2021 at 8:49pm:

Nobody wants to be like China. Not even most Chinese.

The oil rich Arabs are also awash with money but nobody wants to be like them, either - except the Chinese.

The IDEA of China is repellent for everyone, even those who take their money.
Money is all to a hungry people, like China. China has no greater collective memory than centuries of starvation and famine.
That's one reason why they eat anything.

Please explain how the concept of 'common prosperity' is repellant.

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Reply #85 - Dec 7^th, 2021 at 12:11pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 6^th, 2021 at 3:33pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 5^th, 2021 at 8:49pm:

Nobody wants to be like China. Not even most Chinese.

The oil rich Arabs are also awash with money but nobody wants to be like them, either - except the Chinese.

The IDEA of China is repellent for everyone, even those who take their money.
Money is all to a hungry people, like China. China has no greater collective memory than centuries of starvation and famine.
That's one reason why they eat anything.

Please explain how the concept of 'common prosperity' is repellant.

China is not common prosperity.

China is repellent.

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Reply #86 - Dec 7^th, 2021 at 1:00pm

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2021 at 12:11pm:

China is not common prosperity. China is repellent.

China has lifted more people out of poverty at a faster rate than any nation in history, guided by the principle of common prosperity, which it is well on the way to achieving according to the next two 5-years plans. Whereas our slavish adherence to the market economy will ensure entrenched poverty persists, as in most Western countries.

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Reply #87 - Dec 7^th, 2021 at 2:26pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 7^th, 2021 at 1:00pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2021 at 12:11pm:

China is not common prosperity. China is repellent.

China has lifted more people out of poverty at a faster rate than any nation in history, guided by the principle of common prosperity, which it is well on the way to achieving according to the next two 5-years plans. Whereas our slavish adherence to the market economy will ensure entrenched poverty persists, as in most Western countries.

After murdering more people than any nation in history.

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Reply #88 - Dec 7^th, 2021 at 6:07pm

Listen O' Great Divide.

China's true future is NOT Political, Military or even Religious.

If anyone is to be blamed for the CCP - then blame those nations that deem themselves to be the Political instigators in this world - namely Britain and its USA 'heir'.

Don't tell me the CIA didn't initiate supports for China in regards to the USSR back in the day.

USA (North America) is 'the' Political Region of the World
as is the Middle-East being the Military Region of the World.

...Australia's future is 'Art' - hence why this country is only empowered by a representative from the UK (G-G) and USA (PM) in regards to Politics - or are you going to tell me the Shire Councils and State Premiers have more 'power' than those two Offices in running this country?

Religion to rule over Samerica, etc, etc.

...Blame 'the West' for 'Politics' in Asia. Tongue

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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.

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Reply #89 - Dec 8^th, 2021 at 12:06pm

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2021 at 2:26pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 7^th, 2021 at 1:00pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2021 at 12:11pm:

China is not common prosperity. China is repellent.

China has lifted more people out of poverty at a faster rate than any nation in history, guided by the principle of common prosperity, which it is well on the way to achieving according to the next two 5-years plans. Whereas our slavish adherence to the market economy will ensure entrenched poverty persists, as in most Western countries.

After murdering more people than any nation in history.

A quick google shows the number of people murdered in the two world wars alone, doubled those killed in the cultural revolution. (Note: WW2 was really only a continuation of WW1). China was not an active participant, though 10 million or more died in the Japanese occupation of China.

So in the deadly business of sorting out the preferred method of governance, guilt for murder in the chaos of war is shared by all.

Note: 2.5% of the US population died in the US civil war alone, cf c.5% in the cultural revolution.

Yes: driven by our irrational (unconscious) survival instincts, we are a deadly species. The question is: how to govern such an animal, to create ....common prosperity....

After the chaos of the cultural revolution, China might have stumbled on the correct formula, and "socialism with Chinese characteristics" might well prove to the the way forward for mankind. We will see. The democracies descending into hyperpartisan rabbles are obviously not viable as they stand at present.

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