Jasin wrote on Dec 7^th, 2021 at 6:07pm:


Yes, I'll bet Kissinger (and Nixon) are kicking themselves for implementing  good relations with the CCP, to gain an ally against the USSR.

But I largely agree with your post. I consider China's future holds the possibility for all Men, provided the Party remains adaptable, pragmatic, and committed to common prosperity.

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 8^th, 2021 at 1:41pm:


Yes, like all Men might come together if faced with a superior alien civilization......

Meanwhile the democracies are shouting "human rights abuses" at China, ignoring the homelessness, entrenched poverty, and associated criminality in their own nations.

Hypocrites.

Frank wrote on Dec 8^th, 2021 at 4:22pm:


The 2 world wars were murderous contests over world leadership among Western nations, with Japan only meaningfully joining the fray in the 2nd war. 

So, the Western conflict among all Western nations  proved just as murderous (actually twice the death toll)  as the 'Eastern' cultural revolution in China; which is why we need a UNSC without veto, in the age of MAD, to establish an international rules base system.

Your "communism killed the greatest number" argument  is both past history, inaccurate and  irrelevant to the present;  whereas what is accurate is the fact China's one party meritocracy has lifted more people out of poverty in the last 30 years and still continuing (AFTER the cultural revolution] at a faster rate than any nation in history..... with another 400 million people  to achieve middle class status by 2030, 
...making 800 million in all, bigger than the US and the EU middle class combined.  ....while entrenched poverty and inequality are increasing in the US 

With  the entire nation to achieve  common prosperity by mid century (2049. the centenary of the victory of the CCP in China).  

Don't worry about the fear-mongering American Media of selfish patriotic motivations.
China's military machine, though 'numerous', is - in essence, cheaply MADE IN CHINA.
As they say, kill one Chinese, ten others drop dead.

It will be a Sino-v-Russo War.
It will be Islam burning France to the ground like a Cathedral, until they get their 'Messiah' to die for their Moslem sins as an 'empire'.

What American Media doesn't tell or show you - is what's really going on outside their own nation.

And China Vader looked on at his son USA Skywalker as the evil Russian Emperor (once Communist) threw bitter bolts of lightning at him.
...until China Vader picked up Emperor Russia and through his monkey off his back.

You see, there's more to the 'rest of the world' than America and its Media than you think. You might find that even the USA and any of its Presidents are not 'fully in control' of events.

Oh, did I say years ago that China is a 'sick' Economy due to collapse?

Jasin wrote on Dec 9^th, 2021 at 10:15pm:


Funny the Pentagon is so concerned about a recent Chinese test of a hypersonic weapon.

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Not while the US is driving China and Russia together.

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Well, the CCP is dealing with the Islamic terrorist threat, via re-education camps in Xinjiang. Quite successful by all accounts  - the place is now free of terrorist attacks; cf the US failure to deal with terrorism in Afghanistan.

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yes.

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I don't read comic books, or watch sci fi films. 

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The US couldn't even deal with the Taliban...because  they were only in it to support the military industrial complex in the US.

But they are determined  to ensure the Pentagon remains enforcer of US global hegemony. We will have a clearer picture in a decade, when China's economy is set to surpass the US.

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Many people said that years ago. My money is on China being the largest economy in a decade.

[I can't believe even their US-educated economists would be so incapable as to let all the manufacturing capacity and engineering know how in China "collapse", given the huge Chinese market]. 

aquascoot wrote on Dec 10^th, 2021 at 6:08pm:


That the West is being systematically gelded by the pc/woke is not in dispute. Universities and the public service are the most pc/woke without any doubt and are prime agents of that gelding.


But people do not put up with dictators for long as a normal state of affairs.

Frank wrote on Dec 9^th, 2021 at 5:41pm:


Correct.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/Beijing_Symphony_Orchestra%2...



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Those musicians are undoubtedly free and following their passion.

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I reckon rising living standards AND access to the arts, sports, etc will satisfy Chinese aspirations.

Frank wrote on Dec 10^th, 2021 at 6:53pm:


Conservatives have trouble examining the truth, they prefer to see the status quo through rose-coloured glasses, and deny history.   

eg Alan Tudge  railing against uni courses which "teach students to hate our country",  and which dare to look at Anzac Day in a dispassionate  manner. [I'm passionate about Anzac day alright: young lads breathing their last looking at their own guts splattered on their boots, because Churchill f*cked up....]

Talk about "gelding" and "PC woke"...

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...because people are naturally rational and heroic and generous....