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Re: Always Believe the science ??
Reply #15 - Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:43pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:36pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 2:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 12:18am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 24^th, 2021 at 7:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24^th, 2021 at 7:19pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 24^th, 2021 at 6:58pm:

A leading cancer scientist who has received tens of millions in NHMRC grants is being investigated for corruption following allegations of research misconduct.

The QIMR Berghofer Medical Research Institute announced on Tuesday it had referred its former head of immunology in cancer and infection, to the Queensland Crime and Corruption Commission.

as our wise friend Zuby noted

17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians.

A leading cancer scientist, eh?

The detail here is uncanny. One can see why you don't do links, dear.

Never believe the fake news media, ya?

Typical. Beware the one in whom the instinct to punish is strong.

youre right

the ABC is fake news
Grin

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-24/qld-professor-mark-smyth-stood-down-qimr-...

4/ Propaganda is just as effective in the modern day as it was 100 years ago. Access to limitless information has not made the average person any wiser.

at last we can agree.

i post a link from the ABC and you call it propaganda.

congrats

The quicker they sell it off to Rupert, the better.

A dollar - what the NSW government got for the sale of the Sydney Showgrounds to Fox Studios.

Its time to sell the ABC. Not only would Australia be free of a white elephant media corporation, the regions would get their farm prices and flood warnings made in the good old USA.

You can't trust locally-trained journos to make the news, dear, you need a bit of American glamour - with ads. What's wrong with Hannity?

2/ At least 20% of the population has strong authoritarian tendencies, which will emerge under the right conditions, no?

Paki/Martini, you are once again passing the ball only you see to people who are not there.

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Re: Always Believe the science ??
Reply #16 - Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:49pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:36pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 2:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 12:18am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 24^th, 2021 at 7:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24^th, 2021 at 7:19pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 24^th, 2021 at 6:58pm:

A leading cancer scientist who has received tens of millions in NHMRC grants is being investigated for corruption following allegations of research misconduct.

The QIMR Berghofer Medical Research Institute announced on Tuesday it had referred its former head of immunology in cancer and infection, to the Queensland Crime and Corruption Commission.

as our wise friend Zuby noted

17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians.

A leading cancer scientist, eh?

The detail here is uncanny. One can see why you don't do links, dear.

Never believe the fake news media, ya?

Typical. Beware the one in whom the instinct to punish is strong.

youre right

the ABC is fake news
Grin

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-24/qld-professor-mark-smyth-stood-down-qimr-...

4/ Propaganda is just as effective in the modern day as it was 100 years ago. Access to limitless information has not made the average person any wiser.

at last we can agree.

i post a link from the ABC and you call it propaganda.

congrats

The quicker they sell it off to Rupert, the better.

A dollar - what the NSW government got for the sale of the Sydney Showgrounds to Fox Studios.

Its time to sell the ABC. Not only would Australia be free of a white elephant media corporation, the regions would get their farm prices and flood warnings made in the good old USA.

You can't trust locally-trained journos to make the news, dear, you need a bit of American glamour - with ads. What's wrong with Hannity?

2/ At least 20% of the population has strong authoritarian tendencies, which will emerge under the right conditions, no?

journalism is dead.

every dude with an opinion and a smartphone can be a journalist now.

they are irrelevant.

an ABC journo might reach a few thousand minds,
with 10 second sound bites.

Joe rogan has 3 hour podcasts, 2000 of them, discussing issues with politicians,authors, actors, business people, scientists and they average over 10 million views each on you tube and 10 x that as listened to podcasts on spotify.

that 3 hours x 2000 x 10,000,000 x 10
thats 600 billion hours of news content shared by jo.

all the ABC journos who have ever lived, combined would approach maybe 1 % of one mans influence.

stop any random person under 30 in the street and ask then to name an ABC journo?

i bet they cant name one.

insignificant irrelevant and bitter and twisted because celebrity bloggers took their jobs

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Always Believe the science ?? Reply #17 - Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:49pm Thank god you're back, karnal... He's being groomed by a certain poster here who, unfortunately for him, is a woman.
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Always Believe the science ?? Reply #18 - Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:52pm aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:49pm: every dude with an opinion and a smartphone can be a journalist now. No. they're not journalists... They're usually trash with charisma... They used to be called entertainers... Now they're influencers... Goebbels would be impressed.
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Re: Always Believe the science ??
Reply #19 - Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:56pm

Frank wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:43pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:36pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 2:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 12:18am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 24^th, 2021 at 7:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24^th, 2021 at 7:19pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 24^th, 2021 at 6:58pm:

A leading cancer scientist who has received tens of millions in NHMRC grants is being investigated for corruption following allegations of research misconduct.

The QIMR Berghofer Medical Research Institute announced on Tuesday it had referred its former head of immunology in cancer and infection, to the Queensland Crime and Corruption Commission.

as our wise friend Zuby noted

17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians.

A leading cancer scientist, eh?

The detail here is uncanny. One can see why you don't do links, dear.

Never believe the fake news media, ya?

Typical. Beware the one in whom the instinct to punish is strong.

youre right

the ABC is fake news
Grin

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-24/qld-professor-mark-smyth-stood-down-qimr-...

4/ Propaganda is just as effective in the modern day as it was 100 years ago. Access to limitless information has not made the average person any wiser.

at last we can agree.

i post a link from the ABC and you call it propaganda.

congrats

The quicker they sell it off to Rupert, the better.

A dollar - what the NSW government got for the sale of the Sydney Showgrounds to Fox Studios.

Its time to sell the ABC. Not only would Australia be free of a white elephant media corporation, the regions would get their farm prices and flood warnings made in the good old USA.

You can't trust locally-trained journos to make the news, dear, you need a bit of American glamour - with ads. What's wrong with Hannity?

2/ At least 20% of the population has strong authoritarian tendencies, which will emerge under the right conditions, no?

Paki/Martini, you are once again passing the ball only you see to people who are not there.

14/ A significant % of people thoroughly enjoy being subjugated.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95627 Gender:	Re: Always Believe the science ?? Reply #20 - Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:57pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:49pm: Thank god you're back, karnal... He's being groomed by a certain poster here who, unfortunately for him, is a woman. 9/ Humans can be trained and conditioned quickly and relatively easily to significantly alter their behaviours - for better or worse.
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Re: Always Believe the science ??
Reply #21 - Nov 25^th, 2021 at 6:04pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:57pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:49pm:

Thank god you're back, karnal...

He's being groomed by a certain poster here who, unfortunately for him, is a woman.

9/ Humans can be trained and conditioned quickly and relatively easily to significantly alter their behaviours - for better or worse.

Yeah? Not those kind of behaviours... If Zuby's talking about reversing the order of buttoning up a shirt, then... maybe.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74446 Gender:	Re: Always Believe the science ?? Reply #22 - Nov 25^th, 2021 at 6:34pm Quote: Always Believe the science ?? No, I'd prefer to believe a failed horse farmer
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74446 Gender:	Re: Always Believe the science ?? Reply #23 - Nov 25^th, 2021 at 6:35pm Karnal wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 12:18am: 4/ Propaganda is just as effective in the modern day as it was 100 years ago. Access to limitless information has not made the average person any wiser. In many cases it's had the opposite effect
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Reply #24 - Nov 25^th, 2021 at 6:37pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:52pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:49pm:

every dude with an opinion and a smartphone can be a journalist now.

No. they're not journalists... They're usually trash with charisma...

They used to be called entertainers... Now they're influencers... Goebbels would be impressed.

"Who is influencing you", he asked knowingly.....

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Reply #25 - Nov 25^th, 2021 at 6:43pm

Frank wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 6:37pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:52pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:49pm:

every dude with an opinion and a smartphone can be a journalist now.

No. they're not journalists... They're usually trash with charisma...

They used to be called entertainers... Now they're influencers... Goebbels would be impressed.

"Who is influencing you", he asked knowingly.....

Go sparse on adverbs... They weaken the punch, he answered advisedly.

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Reply #26 - Nov 25^th, 2021 at 7:02pm

Frank wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 6:37pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:52pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:49pm:

every dude with an opinion and a smartphone can be a journalist now.

No. they're not journalists... They're usually trash with charisma...

They used to be called entertainers... Now they're influencers... Goebbels would be impressed.

"Who is influencing you", he asked knowingly.....

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has 12,800,530 followers on Twitter.

Warren Buffett's account is @WarrenBuffett, which has 1.43 million followers, is verified by Twitter

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people get their advice from the likes of AOC

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Reply #27 - Nov 25^th, 2021 at 7:07pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 7:02pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 6:37pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:52pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:49pm:

every dude with an opinion and a smartphone can be a journalist now.

No. they're not journalists... They're usually trash with charisma...

They used to be called entertainers... Now they're influencers... Goebbels would be impressed.

"Who is influencing you", he asked knowingly.....

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has 12,800,530 followers on Twitter.

Warren Buffett's account is @WarrenBuffett, which has 1.43 million followers, is verified by Twitter

10 x
people get their advice from the likes of AOC

Yep... We're back to ancient Greece... Back to our roots... With Plato, railing against the sophists who 'make the weaker argument, the stronger'.

What would Zuby think?

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Reply #28 - Nov 25^th, 2021 at 7:19pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 7:07pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 7:02pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 6:37pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:52pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:49pm:

every dude with an opinion and a smartphone can be a journalist now.

No. they're not journalists... They're usually trash with charisma...

They used to be called entertainers... Now they're influencers... Goebbels would be impressed.

"Who is influencing you", he asked knowingly.....

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has 12,800,530 followers on Twitter.

Warren Buffett's account is @WarrenBuffett, which has 1.43 million followers, is verified by Twitter

10 x
people get their advice from the likes of AOC

Yep... We're back to ancient Greece... Back to our roots... With Plato, railing against the sophists who 'make the weaker argument, the stronger'.

What would Zuby think?

i think zuby would recognise what aquascoot recognises.

without the evolutionary blowtorch, people will follow the path of least resistance and all that will matter to them is "pleasuring themselves"

governments have infantalised people by removing all pressure.

people now view discomfort as a failure of government to keep them comfortable

what follows is predictable

sugar, fat, sloth , celebration of victimhood, inaction, porn, gambling, family disintegration, whining , sooking, complaining, the cry baby narrative and the life of pure garbage.

if you wont put the blowtorch on yourself, no one is going to do it for you.

failure is the norm
garbage is the default.

an individual who has led a garbage life has extreme death anxiety because he has done nothing, produced nothing, risked nothing and been nothing.

the superior man is satisfied with his life and happy to melt away
he is hunbled by the challenges he has overcome

the mediocre man is deeply frustrated by his life and clings to it as if it is the most important thing in the universe.
he has overcome no challenges and the greatest challenge (his own mortality) obviously terrifies him.

he should have prepared by confronting challenge every hour of every day.

he didnt

now his life is a trainwreck

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Reply #29 - Nov 25^th, 2021 at 7:21pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 7:19pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 7:07pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 7:02pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 6:37pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:52pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2021 at 5:49pm:

every dude with an opinion and a smartphone can be a journalist now.

No. they're not journalists... They're usually trash with charisma...

They used to be called entertainers... Now they're influencers... Goebbels would be impressed.

"Who is influencing you", he asked knowingly.....

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has 12,800,530 followers on Twitter.

Warren Buffett's account is @WarrenBuffett, which has 1.43 million followers, is verified by Twitter

10 x
people get their advice from the likes of AOC

Yep... We're back to ancient Greece... Back to our roots... With Plato, railing against the sophists who 'make the weaker argument, the stronger'.

What would Zuby think?

i think zuby would recognise what aquascoot recognises.

without the evolutionary blowtorch, people will follow the path of least resistance and all that will matter to them is "pleasuring themselves"

governments have infantalised people by removing all pressure.

people now view discomfort as a failure of government to keep them comfortable

what follows is predictable

sugar, fat, sloth , celebration of victimhood, inaction, porn, gambling, family disintegration, whining , sooking, complaining, the cry baby narrative and the life of pure garbage.

if you wont put the blowtorch on yourself, no one is going to do it for you.

failure is the norm
garbage is the default.

an individual who has led a garbage life has extreme death anxiety because he has done nothing, produced nothing, risked nothing and been nothing.

the superior man is satisfied with his life and happy to melt away
he is hunbled by the challenges he has overcome

the mediocre man is deeply frustrated by his life and clings to it as if it is the most important thing in the universe.
he has overcome no challenges and the greatest challenge (his own mortality) obviously terrifies him.

he should have prepared by confronting challenge every hour of every day.

he didnt

now his life is a trainwreck

Well, kooky talk like that got Socrates executed, but created a Plato.

Would Zuby die for the cause?

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