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Nov 25th, 2021 at 9:02pm
 
It's on.

Look at history for a clue.

The starting point for most horrific wars? Some economic/trade embargo.

Now read what the BBC released 7 hrs ago.

And never forget this moment. Why? It will kickstart a process which will result in a war like never before (thanks to advanced out of control bio weapons of mass destructions).

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59412139
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Reply #1 - Nov 25th, 2021 at 9:29pm
 
So what's your answer Lisa? Allow China to continue its aggression in the SCS, its theft of intellectual property and its generally dictatorial foreign policy?
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Reply #2 - Nov 25th, 2021 at 9:44pm
 
Gee Lisa. How many years have I been posting the inevitable?
Btw - you still have many 'world wars' to go, until things reach their full potential on this very 'limited' world.

As for China. Been 'oppressed' for so long. Treated like crap by the likes of the USSR, Japan, Britain, USA (via Korean War) and more - they're just standing up for themselves and its 'karma-fear' from the guilty parties that China will not only get what is rightly theirs - but give a bit more back out of revenge.

The world reaps what it sows and China as it is, is what the world created.

Afterall, what goes around comes around. Hitler got karma on the Jews for what they did to Jesus.

Pump up the Propaganda about evil China. But really - the world 'deserves' what it gets from China - another Frankenstein creation.

...but don't worry - it will be more Sino v Russo than anything else. Karma to Russia, for what they did as the USSR. You watch Putin 'dissapear' like Rasputin did, when the crap hit the fan for him.
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Reply #3 - Nov 25th, 2021 at 9:50pm
 
If China is an 'evil political military' nation.

Then its the powers that be of Politics (USA?) and Military (Middle-East: Israel/Islam)...

THAT CREATED IT.
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Reply #4 - Nov 25th, 2021 at 10:08pm
 
China is not ready yet and such a war won't happen for at least two decades as China's focus is to develop its technological capabilities before engaging in war.

The only technology that China leads in at this time is lasers and hypersonic missiles.

The only way such a war could happen in the next two decades is if the USA decides to get a sucker punch at China with a sneak attack.

A war with China would be more likely with a Republican president, however, I don't trust Joe Biden either.

If WW3 starts, all hell will break loose as currently suppressed regional conflicts break out. In fact, one of these regional conflicts might be used as a WW3 trigger.

Any of the following countries could decide to strike when the iron is hot:

China v Taiwan
Israel v Iran
India v China
India v Pakistan
Iran v Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, and Kuwait
Azerbaijan v Turkmenistan
Russia v Ukraine
Russia v Europe
Belarus v Poland
Syria v Rebels
Palestinians v Israel
Turkey v Greece over Malta
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Reply #5 - Nov 25th, 2021 at 10:18pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 10:08pm:
China is not ready yet and such a war won't happen for at least two decades as China's focus is to develop its technological capabilities before engaging in war.

The only technology that China leads in at this time is lasers and hypersonic missiles.

The only way such a war could happen in the next two decades is if the USA decides to get a sucker punch at China with a sneak attack.

A war with China would be more likely with a Republican president, however, I don't trust Joe Biden either.

If WW3 starts, all hell will break loose as currently suppressed regional conflicts break out. In fact, one of these regional conflicts might be used as a WW3 trigger.

Any of the following countries could decide to strike when the iron is hot:

China v Taiwan
Israel v Iran
India v China
India v Pakistan
Iran v Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, and Kuwait
Azerbaijan v Turkmenistan
Russia v Ukraine
Russia v Europe
Belarus v Poland
Syria v Rebels
Palestinians v Israel
Turkey v Greece over Malta



Good post -
the world is like a powder keg -
just like before WW1  and WW2.

Meanwhile the United Nations is just as useless as the League of Nations -
the same as before WW2.
They are not doing anything about the arms race
and all the simmering tensions reaching boiling point.
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Reply #6 - Nov 25th, 2021 at 10:22pm
 
The UN is controlled by the USA with the help of its allies UK and France, especially in the Security Council which has all the powers of the UN.

The General Assembly has no powers and the results of its votes are largely symbolic and have no force in causing the UN to act.

In fact, because of the USA's control, the UN is undemocratic.
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Reply #7 - Nov 25th, 2021 at 10:45pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 10:22pm:
The UN is controlled by the USA with the help of its allies UK and France, especially in the Security Council which has all the powers of the UN.

The General Assembly has no powers and the results of its votes are largely symbolic and have no force in causing the UN to act.

In fact, because of the USA's control, the UN is undemocratic.



Any of the 5 major powers can veto any resolution.
Therefore we didn't have a proper inquiry into the
Covid outbreak in Wuhan.
( via the WHO which is part of the UN )
There has been no arms control which has
allowed China to rise to military super power status -
just like Nazi Germany in 1939.

Many resolutions have been ignored anyway - especially by Israel.

It's as weak as piss like the old League of Nations.

The world has learnt nothing from history -
it's as though we're going headlong over a
mile high waterfall in a canoe.




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Reply #8 - Nov 25th, 2021 at 11:13pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 10:45pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 10:22pm:
The UN is controlled by the USA with the help of its allies UK and France, especially in the Security Council which has all the powers of the UN.

The General Assembly has no powers and the results of its votes are largely symbolic and have no force in causing the UN to act.

In fact, because of the USA's control, the UN is undemocratic.



Any of the 5 major powers can veto any resolution.
Therefore we didn't have a proper inquiry into the
Covid outbreak in Wuhan.
( via the WHO which is part of the UN )
There has been no arms control which has
allowed China to rise to military super power status -
just like Nazi Germany in 1939.

Many resolutions have been ignored anyway - especially by Israel.

It's as weak as piss like the old League of Nations.

The world has learnt nothing from history -
it's as though we're going headlong over a
mile high waterfall in a canoe.



The UN will never have powers other than those conferred on it by the USA and its allies.

It is also true that none of the nations China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States would ever allow the UN to interfere in their countries except with their permission.
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Reply #9 - Nov 25th, 2021 at 11:17pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 25th, 2021 at 11:13pm:
The UN will never have powers other than those conferred on it by the USA and its allies.

It is also true that none of the nations China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States would ever allow the UN to interfere in their countries except with their permission.



Then it's a failure of those 5 nations -
they brought us to the brink of war.
The arms race could have been stopped easily
by negotiating around a table.
Every side wins as they reduce their military spending
and make the world a safer place.
The extra money saved could then be spent on helping people
not helping the military industrial complex.
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Reply #10 - Nov 26th, 2021 at 6:42am
 
The Chinese cartel has been on a collision course with the world since early 2020.

The massive overreaction to Australia's asking for an open and independent inquiry into the origins of the pandemic should have been enough to indicate what the cartel was prepared to do in the first instance (if the coercion of the WHO wasn't enough).

Xi Jinping, himself, is fighting an internecine battle within the cartel, the outcome of which, is life or death for him.

Were he to be overthrown, there will be no escape from the victors within the cartel. It's almost certain no country would accept him as a political exile, so he would either be summarily executed or subjected to a Stalinist show trial which would end in his execution.

His daughter is apparently safely outside of China but any talk of her or her whereabouts is an offence within mainland China.

His wife lives separately from him (apparently within China) but would also not likely survive Xi's overthrow.

Xi, himself, has not left China in nearly 2 years and rarely even leaves Beijing.

In short, Xi Jinping, is standing on the hill he will either die on at the hands of the cartel, or where he will take his own life in the event of a catastrophic war, were the outcomes of which to go against China.

The die is cast... It's now only a matter of when the first move in a kinetic war is made, and by whom.
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Reply #11 - Nov 26th, 2021 at 6:46am
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 26th, 2021 at 6:42am:
The Chinese cartel has been on a collision course with the world since early 2020.

The massive overreaction to Australia's asking for an open and independent inquiry into the origins of the pandemic should have been enough to indicate what the cartel was prepared to do in the first instance (if the coercion of the WHO wasn't enough).

Xi Jinping, himself, is fighting an internecine battle within the cartel, the outcome of which, is life or death for him.

Were he to be overthrown, there will be no escape from the victors within the cartel. It's almost certain no country would accept him as a political exile, so he would either be summarily executed or subjected to a Stalinist show trial which would end in his execution.

His daughter is apparently safely outside of China but any talk of her or her whereabouts is an offence within mainland China.

His wife lives separately from him (apparently within China) but would also not likely survive Xi's overthrow.

Xi, himself, has not left China in nearly 2 years and rarely even leaves Beijing.

In short, Xi Jinping, is standing on the hill he will either die on at the hands of the cartel, or where he will take his own life in the event of a catastrophic war, were the outcomes of which to go against China.

The die is cast... It's now only a matter of when the first move in a kinetic war is made, and by whom.



Xi Jinping is a dictator just like Hitler, Stalin and Kim Jong-Un.
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Reply #12 - Nov 26th, 2021 at 8:46am
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 26th, 2021 at 6:46am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 26th, 2021 at 6:42am:
The Chinese cartel has been on a collision course with the world since early 2020.

The massive overreaction to Australia's asking for an open and independent inquiry into the origins of the pandemic should have been enough to indicate what the cartel was prepared to do in the first instance (if the coercion of the WHO wasn't enough).

Xi Jinping, himself, is fighting an internecine battle within the cartel, the outcome of which, is life or death for him.

Were he to be overthrown, there will be no escape from the victors within the cartel. It's almost certain no country would accept him as a political exile, so he would either be summarily executed or subjected to a Stalinist show trial which would end in his execution.

His daughter is apparently safely outside of China but any talk of her or her whereabouts is an offence within mainland China.

His wife lives separately from him (apparently within China) but would also not likely survive Xi's overthrow.

Xi, himself, has not left China in nearly 2 years and rarely even leaves Beijing.

In short, Xi Jinping, is standing on the hill he will either die on at the hands of the cartel, or where he will take his own life in the event of a catastrophic war, were the outcomes of which to go against China.

The die is cast... It's now only a matter of when the first move in a kinetic war is made, and by whom.



Xi Jinping is a dictator just like Hitler, Stalin and Kim Jong-Un.


Im hoping this is simply another cold war.

The next war, with the weaponry now available, will most likely be very very nasty.

If China and the US used even 1/10 of their available weapons of mass destruction, climate warming would be the least of our problems.

Even some of the less destructive weaponry is not something any of want to see.

At the very least there will no longer be internet and even mobile phones will be unusable.
These information devices will be the first casualties in order to create unrest.

There is also a possibility that all devices with computer chips could be rendered useless, without any physical harm to people, but plunging technological countries into the dark ages.
Imagine.
Every device with a microchip suddenly sopped working.
No cars, No computers, no TV even toast in the morning could be affected.
Food would become short  and even infrastructure such as power, water and sewage would be affected.
Crime, sickness and starvation could well result.

This is a serious consideration
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Victor Sunny wrote on Nov 26th, 2021 at 8:10pm:



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To them the civil war was never the end of the problem.
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