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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38571 Gender:	Federal ICAC Nov 28^th, 2021 at 3:09pm Why does Morrison keep excusing the lack of a Bill presented in Parliament to debate and vote on the basis that Labor opposes it. Is he not the Govt? Does he not have the numbers in the HoR to get his Bill passed there? WTF?
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Labor majority government Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1297 Gender:	Re: Federal ICAC Reply #1 - Nov 28^th, 2021 at 8:00pm Look what happened to poor poor Gladys
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Re: Federal ICAC
Reply #2 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 11:05am

Aussie wrote on Nov 28^th, 2021 at 3:09pm:

Why does Morrison keep excusing the lack of a Bill presented in Parliament to debate and vote on the basis that Labor opposes it.

Is he not the Govt? Does he not have the numbers in the HoR to get his Bill passed there?

WTF?

He's trying to blame Labor for the total lack of action on this legislation. It won't work for the reasons you described.

In reality, the government is dragging its feet on this legislation because their bill has no retrospective powers and they want to keep looting the Treasury for as long as possible. That won't work either - the other proposed legislation will have retrospective powers.

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Valkie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16138 Central Coast Gender:	Re: Federal ICAC Reply #3 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 11:09am ICAC Irrelevant Collection of Australian Corruption
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 84067 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Federal ICAC Reply #4 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 11:14am As Scomo was climbing up the stair, He met an ICAC that wasn't there. It wasn't there again today, He wished to hell it would go away.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 84067 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Federal ICAC Reply #5 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 11:19am Aussie wrote on Nov 28^th, 2021 at 3:09pm: Why does Morrison keep excusing the lack of a Bill presented in Parliament to debate and vote on the basis that Labor opposes it. Is he not the Govt? Does he not have the numbers in the HoR to get his Bill passed there? WTF? Labor did it!!
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Federal ICAC Reply #6 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 12:15pm An interesting irony that a government can go full pelt on 'trolls' (whatever they really mean by that), yet resist the establishment of a permanent commission of inquiry to prevent political corruption.
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Valkie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16138 Central Coast Gender:	Re: Federal ICAC Reply #7 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 1:39pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 12:15pm: An interesting irony that a government can go full pelt on 'trolls' (whatever they really mean by that), yet resist the establishment of a permanent commission of inquiry to prevent political corruption. They would need 100 times as many people on the books to do that.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38571 Gender:	Re: Federal ICAC Reply #8 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 1:44pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 12:15pm: An interesting irony that a government can go full pelt on 'trolls' (whatever they really mean by that), yet resist the establishment of a permanent commission of inquiry to prevent political corruption. And they just refused to table their Bill, in Question Time.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74337 Gender:	Re: Federal ICAC Reply #9 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 5:59pm Aussie wrote on Nov 28^th, 2021 at 3:09pm: Why does Morrison keep excusing the lack of a Bill presented in Parliament to debate and vote on the basis that Labor opposes it. Simply, he doesn't want to go to jail
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Federal ICAC Reply #10 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 8:40pm I'd bet psychologists would have something to say about a group's deflection of that group's fear of possible exposure to questions about potentially corrupt behaviour from a commission it can't control, towards fury at bad behaviour online of individuals it can. Both or neither... Not either/or.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74337 Gender:	Re: Federal ICAC Reply #11 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 8:44pm scummo is trying to hide the truth he's allocated only 10 sitting days between the end of this week and August 2022 what the fkkk do we pay them for?
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Re: Federal ICAC
Reply #12 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 10:14pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 8:44pm:

scummo is trying to hide the truth

he's allocated only 10 sitting days between the end of this week and August 2022 Shocked

what the fkkk do we pay them for?

They need to spend time working in their electorate, but if you try to contact them, you'll get a flunkey or the brush-off...... a nice letter explaining to you why they can't do what you want... don't call us..

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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20191 Perth Gender:	Re: Federal ICAC Reply #13 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 10:49pm I believe Morrison is on a hiding to nowhere....A Federal ICAC is inevitable and Morrison looks weak, unable or unwilling to face scrutiny???
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Re: Federal ICAC
Reply #14 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 10:54pm

... and they need time to consolidate and rationalise the business ventures they've set up during their time in office.... you can't run a business empire while sitting in Parliament for your pay and without having lots of free time time on your hands, you know... it takes a lot of work to sort out your next profiteering venture... most likely in some area your government is about to throw billions of taxpayer fool's dollars so you're guaranteed of a profit....

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