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Reply #15 - Dec 12^th, 2021 at 6:39am

Dnarever wrote on Dec 11^th, 2021 at 9:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 1:08pm:

SCOTUS will not touch Roe to any significant degree. Maybe some token tinkering on term but nothing else.

They do not have to.

All they need to do is what they have done 5-4 here.

They have allowed the bounty hunter law to stand and Row v Wade just doesn't matter there is a work around that allows states to ignore the law under precedent.

The part of the prosecution allowed to continue cannot impact this.

The framework has already been laid for the US Supreme Court to make future decisions regarding Casey & Roe v. Wade.....By it's most recent 8-1 decision, it opens the door for any State to draw up & pass Texas Style Abortion Laws/Restrictions, free from any Federal Government Court intervention, effectively returning the Power to Regulate Abortion back to the States....as was prior to Roe.

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Reply #16 - Dec 12^th, 2021 at 8:49am

Panther wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 6:39am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 11^th, 2021 at 9:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 1:08pm:

SCOTUS will not touch Roe to any significant degree. Maybe some token tinkering on term but nothing else.

They do not have to.

All they need to do is what they have done 5-4 here.

They have allowed the bounty hunter law to stand and Row v Wade just doesn't matter there is a work around that allows states to ignore the law under precedent.

The part of the prosecution allowed to continue cannot impact this.

The framework has already been laid for the US Supreme Court to make future decisions regarding Casey & Roe v. Wade.....By it's most recent 8-1 decision, it opens the door for any State to draw up & pass Texas Style Abortion Laws/Restrictions, free from any Federal Government Court intervention, effectively returning the Power to Regulate Abortion back to the States....as was prior to Roe. https://imgur.com/CF8NdYQ.gif

Yes but only as long as they enforce these laws using bounty hunters in civil litigation. The government itself is still impacted under Roe v Wade.

Very dangerous legislation. Lots of problems.

If the court takes the next step and act on Roe v Wade they introduce another problem for themselves if this ridiculous unconstitutional decision has not damaged them enough.

Several Judges including all of the last 3 have the commitment regarding Roe v Wage on the record under oath to the senate.

These Judges could be impeached for perjury over a Roe v Wade decision.

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Reply #17 - Dec 12^th, 2021 at 9:23am

Dnarever wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 8:49am:

Panther wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 6:39am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 11^th, 2021 at 9:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 1:08pm:

SCOTUS will not touch Roe to any significant degree. Maybe some token tinkering on term but nothing else.

They do not have to.

All they need to do is what they have done 5-4 here.

They have allowed the bounty hunter law to stand and Row v Wade just doesn't matter there is a work around that allows states to ignore the law under precedent.

The part of the prosecution allowed to continue cannot impact this.

The framework has already been laid for the US Supreme Court to make future decisions regarding Casey & Roe v. Wade.....By it's most recent 8-1 decision, it opens the door for any State to draw up & pass Texas Style Abortion Laws/Restrictions, free from any Federal Government Court intervention, effectively returning the Power to Regulate Abortion back to the States....as was prior to Roe. https://imgur.com/CF8NdYQ.gif

Yes but only as long as they enforce these laws using bounty hunters in civil litigation. The government itself is still impacted under Roe v Wade.

Very dangerous legislation. Lots of problems.

If the court takes the next step and act on Roe v Wade they introduce another problem for themselves if this ridiculous unconstitutional decision has not damaged them enough.

Several Judges including all of the last 3 have the

commitment

regarding Roe v Wage on the record under oath to the senate.

These Judges

could be

impeached for perjury over a Roe v Wade decision.

Been there.....it's been tried.....a potential Justice's confirmation testimony regarding a position is merely his/her opinion.

Opinions are not inescapable facts.....Opinions are not ironclad representations of truth.....

Besides, any Judge is capable of changing their minds, or point of view, regarding their opinions on any precedent.....that's a proven fact.

Good thought though......but that dog just won't hunt....it's eyes have been gouged out long ago....

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Reply #18 - Dec 12^th, 2021 at 9:44am

Let's say Roe v Wade is overturned. Okay, then what? The GOP gets a boost in 2022, maybe even 2024. The Women's Movement is then reenergized. And because Roe v Wade is supported by the majority of Americans, and has been for decades, the Democratic Party gets a long-term boost versus the short-term boots the GOP gets. Then there is the larger cultural nuclear bomb the overturn of Roe v Wade will be, and the general fallout will be unpredictable. Of course, the Supreme Court will probably get the reputation of being nothing but a partisan body, which will increase the likelihood the SCOTUS will be reformed.

Yet the big question is, why does Panther have a hard-on about this? Does he have a mail-order business selling abortion drugs? That will certainly become a profitable business, as will organizing abortion tours to the "Free States."

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Reply #19 - Dec 12^th, 2021 at 9:44am

Panther wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 9:23am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 8:49am:

Panther wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 6:39am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 11^th, 2021 at 9:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 1:08pm:

SCOTUS will not touch Roe to any significant degree. Maybe some token tinkering on term but nothing else.

They do not have to.

All they need to do is what they have done 5-4 here.

They have allowed the bounty hunter law to stand and Row v Wade just doesn't matter there is a work around that allows states to ignore the law under precedent.

The part of the prosecution allowed to continue cannot impact this.

The framework has already been laid for the US Supreme Court to make future decisions regarding Casey & Roe v. Wade.....By it's most recent 8-1 decision, it opens the door for any State to draw up & pass Texas Style Abortion Laws/Restrictions, free from any Federal Government Court intervention, effectively returning the Power to Regulate Abortion back to the States....as was prior to Roe. https://imgur.com/CF8NdYQ.gif

Yes but only as long as they enforce these laws using bounty hunters in civil litigation. The government itself is still impacted under Roe v Wade.

Very dangerous legislation. Lots of problems.

If the court takes the next step and act on Roe v Wade they introduce another problem for themselves if this ridiculous unconstitutional decision has not damaged them enough.

Several Judges including all of the last 3 have the

commitment

regarding Roe v Wage on the record under oath to the senate.

These Judges

could be

impeached for perjury over a Roe v Wade decision.

Been there.....it's been tried.....a potential Justice's confirmation testimony regarding a position is merely his/her opinion.

Opinions are not inescapable facts.....Opinions are not ironclad representations of truth.....

Besides, any Judge is capable of changing their minds, or point of view, regarding their opinions on any precedent.....that's a proven fact.

Good thought though......but that dog just won't hunt....it's eyes have been gouged out long ago....

I do not see the democrats going that way (they hate to win) However if they did you may be surprised.

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Reply #20 - Dec 12^th, 2021 at 9:46am

AiA wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 9:44am:

Let's say Roe v Wade is overturned. Okay, then what? The GOP gets a boost in 2022, maybe even 2024. The Women's Movement is then reenergized. And because Roe v Wade is supported by the majority of Americans, and has been for decades, the Democratic Party gets a long-term boost versus the short-term boots the GOP gets. Then there is the larger cultural nuclear bomb the overturn of Roe v Wade will be, and the general fallout will be unpredictable. Of course, the Supreme Court will probably get the reputation of being nothing but a partisan body, which will increase the likelihood the SCOTUS will be reformed.

Yet the big question is, why does Panther have a hard-on about this? Does he have a mail-order business selling abortion drugs? That will certainly become a profitable business, as will organizing abortion tours to the "Free States."

I think if I were a Republican, I would want the Roe v Wade to be modified around the edges and leave it at that, but today's GOP is extreme and unreasonable and has no tools left in its toolbox except stirring up the electorate with wedge issues.

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Reply #21 - Dec 12^th, 2021 at 10:12am

Dnarever wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 9:44am:

Panther wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 9:23am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 8:49am:

Panther wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 6:39am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 11^th, 2021 at 9:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 1:08pm:

SCOTUS will not touch Roe to any significant degree. Maybe some token tinkering on term but nothing else.

They do not have to.

All they need to do is what they have done 5-4 here.

They have allowed the bounty hunter law to stand and Row v Wade just doesn't matter there is a work around that allows states to ignore the law under precedent.

The part of the prosecution allowed to continue cannot impact this.

The framework has already been laid for the US Supreme Court to make future decisions regarding Casey & Roe v. Wade.....By it's most recent 8-1 decision, it opens the door for any State to draw up & pass Texas Style Abortion Laws/Restrictions, free from any Federal Government Court intervention, effectively returning the Power to Regulate Abortion back to the States....as was prior to Roe. https://imgur.com/CF8NdYQ.gif

Yes but only as long as they enforce these laws using bounty hunters in civil litigation. The government itself is still impacted under Roe v Wade.

Very dangerous legislation. Lots of problems.

If the court takes the next step and act on Roe v Wade they introduce another problem for themselves if this ridiculous unconstitutional decision has not damaged them enough.

Several Judges including all of the last 3 have the

commitment

regarding Roe v Wage on the record under oath to the senate.

These Judges

could be

impeached for perjury over a Roe v Wade decision.

Been there.....it's been tried.....a potential Justice's confirmation testimony regarding a position is merely his/her opinion.

Opinions are not inescapable facts.....Opinions are not ironclad representations of truth.....

Besides, any Judge is capable of changing their minds, or point of view, regarding their opinions on any precedent.....that's a proven fact.

Good thought though......but that dog just won't hunt....it's eyes have been gouged out long ago....

I do not see the democrats going that way (they hate to win) However if they did you may be surprised.

Just as a reminder......an Impeachment, as you have already witnessed with Trump 2x.....an Impeachment is merely a charge or charges presented by the House of Representatives.....like charges by a Grand Jury in a criminal case.....accusations that must then be proven successfully to the US Senate before any actual action is taken against the impeached defendant.......removal from office, etc.....

♢ Only One (1) United States Supreme Court Justice was ever Impeached, Samuel Chase back in the very early 1800's, & he was later found not guilty of any wrongdoing whatsoever ....acquitted.... by the US Senate.

Political witch hunts never have worked well for the democ-rats in the House of Representatives.....but they always put on a good show!

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Reply #22 - Dec 12^th, 2021 at 10:16am

Panther wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 10:12am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 9:44am:

Panther wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 9:23am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 8:49am:

Panther wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 6:39am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 11^th, 2021 at 9:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 1:08pm:

SCOTUS will not touch Roe to any significant degree. Maybe some token tinkering on term but nothing else.

They do not have to.

All they need to do is what they have done 5-4 here.

They have allowed the bounty hunter law to stand and Row v Wade just doesn't matter there is a work around that allows states to ignore the law under precedent.

The part of the prosecution allowed to continue cannot impact this.

The framework has already been laid for the US Supreme Court to make future decisions regarding Casey & Roe v. Wade.....By it's most recent 8-1 decision, it opens the door for any State to draw up & pass Texas Style Abortion Laws/Restrictions, free from any Federal Government Court intervention, effectively returning the Power to Regulate Abortion back to the States....as was prior to Roe. https://imgur.com/CF8NdYQ.gif

Yes but only as long as they enforce these laws using bounty hunters in civil litigation. The government itself is still impacted under Roe v Wade.

Very dangerous legislation. Lots of problems.

If the court takes the next step and act on Roe v Wade they introduce another problem for themselves if this ridiculous unconstitutional decision has not damaged them enough.

Several Judges including all of the last 3 have the

commitment

regarding Roe v Wage on the record under oath to the senate.

These Judges

could be

impeached for perjury over a Roe v Wade decision.

Been there.....it's been tried.....a potential Justice's confirmation testimony regarding a position is merely his/her opinion.

Opinions are not inescapable facts.....Opinions are not ironclad representations of truth.....

Besides, any Judge is capable of changing their minds, or point of view, regarding their opinions on any precedent.....that's a proven fact.

Good thought though......but that dog just won't hunt....it's eyes have been gouged out long ago....

I do not see the democrats going that way (they hate to win) However if they did you may be surprised.

Just as a reminder......an Impeachment, as you have already witnessed with Trump 2x.....an Impeachment is merely a charge or charges presented by the House of Representatives.....like charges by a Grand Jury in a criminal case.....accusations that must then be proven successfully to the US Senate before any actual action is taken against the impeached defendant.......removal from office, etc.....

♢ Only One (1) United States Supreme Court Justice was ever Impeached, Samuel Chase back in the very early 1800's, & he was later found not guilty of any wrongdoing whatsoever ....acquitted.... by the US Senate.

Political witch hunts never have worked well for the House of Representatives.....but they always put on a good show!

The SCOTUS can be reformed and it can be packed. Overturning Roe v Wade will increase the likelihood one or the other will happen at some point in the future.

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Reply #23 - Dec 12^th, 2021 at 11:03am

AiA wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 10:16am:

Panther wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 10:12am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 9:44am:

Panther wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 9:23am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 8:49am:

Panther wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 6:39am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 11^th, 2021 at 9:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 1:08pm:

SCOTUS will not touch Roe to any significant degree. Maybe some token tinkering on term but nothing else.

They do not have to.

All they need to do is what they have done 5-4 here.

They have allowed the bounty hunter law to stand and Row v Wade just doesn't matter there is a work around that allows states to ignore the law under precedent.

The part of the prosecution allowed to continue cannot impact this.

The framework has already been laid for the US Supreme Court to make future decisions regarding Casey & Roe v. Wade.....By it's most recent 8-1 decision, it opens the door for any State to draw up & pass Texas Style Abortion Laws/Restrictions, free from any Federal Government Court intervention, effectively returning the Power to Regulate Abortion back to the States....as was prior to Roe. https://imgur.com/CF8NdYQ.gif

Yes but only as long as they enforce these laws using bounty hunters in civil litigation. The government itself is still impacted under Roe v Wade.

Very dangerous legislation. Lots of problems.

If the court takes the next step and act on Roe v Wade they introduce another problem for themselves if this ridiculous unconstitutional decision has not damaged them enough.

Several Judges including all of the last 3 have the

commitment

regarding Roe v Wage on the record under oath to the senate.

These Judges

could be

impeached for perjury over a Roe v Wade decision.

Been there.....it's been tried.....a potential Justice's confirmation testimony regarding a position is merely his/her opinion.

Opinions are not inescapable facts.....Opinions are not ironclad representations of truth.....

Besides, any Judge is capable of changing their minds, or point of view, regarding their opinions on any precedent.....that's a proven fact.

Good thought though......but that dog just won't hunt....it's eyes have been gouged out long ago....

I do not see the democrats going that way (they hate to win) However if they did you may be surprised.

Just as a reminder......an Impeachment, as you have already witnessed with Trump 2x.....an Impeachment is merely a charge or charges presented by the House of Representatives.....like charges by a Grand Jury in a criminal case.....accusations that must then be proven successfully to the US Senate before any actual action is taken against the impeached defendant.......removal from office, etc.....

♢ Only One (1) United States Supreme Court Justice was ever Impeached, Samuel Chase back in the very early 1800's, & he was later found not guilty of any wrongdoing whatsoever ....acquitted.... by the US Senate.

Political witch hunts never have worked well for the House of Representatives.....but they always put on a good show!

The SCOTUS can be reformed and it can be packed. Overturning Roe v Wade will increase the likelihood one or the other will happen at some point in the future.

Reformed......in the present political climate???

What bi-partisan 'reform(s)' do you think would be a sure-fire hit, noting the present political climate?

IMHO, The Court can only be "Packed", & to do that you need the President to nominate, & a US Senate to approve the President's Nominations.......Today's Senate is split 50-50, & using the Vice President as a tie breaker for the democ-rats won't happen......Joe Manchin is on record that he won't put up for any Court "Packing", & that if attempted he will side with the Republicans.....I believe he wouldn't be alone either......therefore "Packing" the Supreme Court, while theoretically possible, is highly improbable because they won't be able to reach a majority.....especially a majority that would stand up to a 'filibuster', which would require a 'super majority' of 60 votes to overcome.

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Reply #25 - Dec 12^th, 2021 at 10:17pm

Panther wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 11:03am:

AiA wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 10:16am:

Panther wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 10:12am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 9:44am:

Panther wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 9:23am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 8:49am:

Panther wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 6:39am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 11^th, 2021 at 9:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 1:08pm:

SCOTUS will not touch Roe to any significant degree. Maybe some token tinkering on term but nothing else.

They do not have to.

All they need to do is what they have done 5-4 here.

They have allowed the bounty hunter law to stand and Row v Wade just doesn't matter there is a work around that allows states to ignore the law under precedent.

The part of the prosecution allowed to continue cannot impact this.

The framework has already been laid for the US Supreme Court to make future decisions regarding Casey & Roe v. Wade.....By it's most recent 8-1 decision, it opens the door for any State to draw up & pass Texas Style Abortion Laws/Restrictions, free from any Federal Government Court intervention, effectively returning the Power to Regulate Abortion back to the States....as was prior to Roe. https://imgur.com/CF8NdYQ.gif

Yes but only as long as they enforce these laws using bounty hunters in civil litigation. The government itself is still impacted under Roe v Wade.

Very dangerous legislation. Lots of problems.

If the court takes the next step and act on Roe v Wade they introduce another problem for themselves if this ridiculous unconstitutional decision has not damaged them enough.

Several Judges including all of the last 3 have the

commitment

regarding Roe v Wage on the record under oath to the senate.

These Judges

could be

impeached for perjury over a Roe v Wade decision.

Been there.....it's been tried.....a potential Justice's confirmation testimony regarding a position is merely his/her opinion.

Opinions are not inescapable facts.....Opinions are not ironclad representations of truth.....

Besides, any Judge is capable of changing their minds, or point of view, regarding their opinions on any precedent.....that's a proven fact.

Good thought though......but that dog just won't hunt....it's eyes have been gouged out long ago....

I do not see the democrats going that way (they hate to win) However if they did you may be surprised.

Just as a reminder......an Impeachment, as you have already witnessed with Trump 2x.....an Impeachment is merely a charge or charges presented by the House of Representatives.....like charges by a Grand Jury in a criminal case.....accusations that must then be proven successfully to the US Senate before any actual action is taken against the impeached defendant.......removal from office, etc.....

♢ Only One (1) United States Supreme Court Justice was ever Impeached, Samuel Chase back in the very early 1800's, & he was later found not guilty of any wrongdoing whatsoever ....acquitted.... by the US Senate.

Political witch hunts never have worked well for the House of Representatives.....but they always put on a good show!

The SCOTUS can be reformed and it can be packed. Overturning Roe v Wade will increase the likelihood one or the other will happen at some point in the future.

Reformed......in the present political climate???

What bi-partisan 'reform(s)' do you think would be a sure-fire hit, noting the present political climate?

IMHO, The Court can only be "Packed", & to do that you need the President to nominate, & a US Senate to approve the President's Nominations.......Today's Senate is split 50-50, & using the Vice President as a tie breaker for the democ-rats won't happen......Joe Manchin is on record that he won't put up for any Court "Packing", & that if attempted he will side with the Republicans.....I believe he wouldn't be alone either......therefore "Packing" the Supreme Court, while theoretically possible, is highly improbable because they won't be able to reach a majority.....especially a majority that would stand up to a 'filibuster', which would require a 'super majority' of 60 votes to overcome.

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Read what I wrote again. At some point in the future, the SCOTUS will be reformed because of what it has become.

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Reply #26 - Dec 12^th, 2021 at 10:25pm

AiA wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 10:16am:

Panther wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 10:12am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 9:44am:

Panther wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 9:23am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 8:49am:

Panther wrote on Dec 12^th, 2021 at 6:39am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 11^th, 2021 at 9:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2021 at 1:08pm:

SCOTUS will not touch Roe to any significant degree. Maybe some token tinkering on term but nothing else.

They do not have to.

All they need to do is what they have done 5-4 here.

They have allowed the bounty hunter law to stand and Row v Wade just doesn't matter there is a work around that allows states to ignore the law under precedent.

The part of the prosecution allowed to continue cannot impact this.

The framework has already been laid for the US Supreme Court to make future decisions regarding Casey & Roe v. Wade.....By it's most recent 8-1 decision, it opens the door for any State to draw up & pass Texas Style Abortion Laws/Restrictions, free from any Federal Government Court intervention, effectively returning the Power to Regulate Abortion back to the States....as was prior to Roe. https://imgur.com/CF8NdYQ.gif

Yes but only as long as they enforce these laws using bounty hunters in civil litigation. The government itself is still impacted under Roe v Wade.

Very dangerous legislation. Lots of problems.

If the court takes the next step and act on Roe v Wade they introduce another problem for themselves if this ridiculous unconstitutional decision has not damaged them enough.

Several Judges including all of the last 3 have the

commitment

regarding Roe v Wage on the record under oath to the senate.

These Judges

could be

impeached for perjury over a Roe v Wade decision.

Been there.....it's been tried.....a potential Justice's confirmation testimony regarding a position is merely his/her opinion.

Opinions are not inescapable facts.....Opinions are not ironclad representations of truth.....

Besides, any Judge is capable of changing their minds, or point of view, regarding their opinions on any precedent.....that's a proven fact.

Good thought though......but that dog just won't hunt....it's eyes have been gouged out long ago....

I do not see the democrats going that way (they hate to win) However if they did you may be surprised.

Just as a reminder......an Impeachment, as you have already witnessed with Trump 2x.....an Impeachment is merely a charge or charges presented by the House of Representatives.....like charges by a Grand Jury in a criminal case.....accusations that must then be proven successfully to the US Senate before any actual action is taken against the impeached defendant.......removal from office, etc.....

♢ Only One (1) United States Supreme Court Justice was ever Impeached, Samuel Chase back in the very early 1800's, & he was later found not guilty of any wrongdoing whatsoever ....acquitted.... by the US Senate.

Political witch hunts never have worked well for the House of Representatives.....but they always put on a good show!

The SCOTUS can be reformed and it can be packed. Overturning Roe v Wade will increase the likelihood one or the other will happen at some point in the future.

Not only that it can be reformed but it needs to be reformed. It is currently corrupt in nature and badly needs to be fixed.

There are insufficient judges appointed to the court. The number of 9 has not changed in the time that the population has increased by about 400%. There are insufficient judges to do the job that is required.

The method of appointment has been proven to be corrupt as we seen last term. Judges should be independently appointed in a non political process. The court is currently politically corrupt - this needs to end.

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Reply #27 - Dec 13^th, 2021 at 12:53am

The size of the general population has no bearing on the size of the Supreme Court. Their only job is to be the final opinion on whether cases brought before them are Constitutional or not! Even if they personally disagree with a case their only job is to determine its constitutionality. It isn't their job to change opinions of what the Constitution means!

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Reply #28 - Dec 13^th, 2021 at 10:34am

Mortdooley wrote on Dec 13^th, 2021 at 12:53am:

The size of the general population has no bearing on the size of the Supreme Court. Their only job is to be the final opinion on whether cases brought before them are Constitutional or not! Even if they personally disagree with a case their only job is to determine its constitutionality. It isn't their job to change opinions of what the Constitution means!

If 70 Million people produce 150 cases it is likely that 5 times that number of people would produce something like 5 times the number of cases. Population would be a proportional determining factor for workload, any numpty can see that is true.

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It isn't their job to change opinions of what the Constitution means!

So Roe v wade being settled should not be changed ? Clearly this is not what is happening in fact this ruling undermines the enforceability of the entire constitution.

The freedom of speech can be undermined by allowing individual bounty hunters to prosecute on what is said.

Same thing for the second. where states can use this same method to legislate against guns, in fact it applies to virtually the whole constitution.

The fourth amendment - search and seizure as long as it is outsourced ?

A very dangerous precedent has been set.

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Reply #29 - Dec 13^th, 2021 at 10:43am

Mortdooley wrote on Dec 13^th, 2021 at 12:53am:

The size of the general population has no bearing on the size of the Supreme Court. Their only job is to be the final opinion on whether cases brought before them are Constitutional or not! Even if they personally disagree with a case their only job is to determine its constitutionality. It isn't their job to change opinions of what the Constitution means!

It isn't their job to change opinions of what the Constitution means!

They routinely set this type of precedent.

Roe V Wade set a precedent showing the the constitution protected abortion as a right.

The 2008 shonky changes to the interpretation of the second amendment that redefined the amendments meaning from being literally what the words say to what the gun lobby wanted the words to say made it impossible for states to use sensible regulation on guns.

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