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Reply #30 - Dec 14^th, 2021 at 9:49am

Dnarever wrote on Dec 13^th, 2021 at 10:34am:

Mortdooley wrote on Dec 13^th, 2021 at 12:53am:

The size of the general population has no bearing on the size of the Supreme Court. Their only job is to be the final opinion on whether cases brought before them are Constitutional or not! Even if they personally disagree with a case their only job is to determine its constitutionality. It isn't their job to change opinions of what the Constitution means!

If 70 Million people produce 150 cases it is likely that 5 times that number of people would produce something like 5 times the number of cases. Population would be a proportional determining factor for workload, any numpty can see that is true.

The United Supreme Court isn't required to hear every case that might potentially be requested by the public.....no, they are an appellate court, & usually only cases sent up to it by the federal appellate courts below them (99+%) get consideration......they look over those cases (about ±5,000 to 7,000 per year) & they decide which ones to hear.....be it 60 cases in their session, or 95, or 300.....The Supreme Court typically agrees to hear about 100-150 of the more than 7,000 cases that it is asked to review each year by the lower courts.......That's their prerogative.....to hear only what they wish to hear......they make the rules & determine the procedures in this regard.....

See: Supreme Court Procedures

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Reply #31 - Dec 14^th, 2021 at 10:25am

Roe v Wade stipulates that a woman seeking an abortion should not face legal sanction.. it does not prevent a State or other legislature from working to remove the means of providing abortion, or from placing sanctions on anyone providing abortion, or from outlawing facilities that provide abortion.

It was a half-baked measure regardless of the trumpetings of the 'feminists' who claim it is carte blanche... typical .....make a mountain out of a mole on their arse cheek... if they'd just shut up for five minutes and get on with the job instead, they might get a result... they are just wasting hot air on whining about it the way they are.

..... put their money where their pussy is ......

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Reply #32 - Dec 14^th, 2021 at 10:35am

So on top of their two hearing sessions per day they have to decide if they will accept 30 cases per day or 150 per week. Checking the merit of 150 cases per week may entail reading the proceedings as well as the submission. Then they have to find the time to discuss and make decisions.

You seem to have made an argument for the opposite of your intention. This is a huge workload.

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Reply #33 - Dec 14^th, 2021 at 10:45am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 14^th, 2021 at 10:25am:

Roe v Wade stipulates that a woman seeking an abortion should not face legal sanction.. it does not prevent a State or other legislature from working to remove the means of providing abortion, or from placing sanctions on anyone providing abortion, or from outlawing facilities that provide abortion.

It was a half-baked measure regardless of the trumpetings of the 'feminists' who claim it is carte blanche... typical .....make a mountain out of a mole on their arse cheek... if they'd just shut up for five minutes and get on with the job instead, they might get a result... they are just wasting hot air on whining about it the way they are.

..... put their money where their pussy is ......

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Roe v Wade stipulates that a woman seeking an abortion should not face legal sanction

No Roe v Wade stipulates that a woman has the right to an abortion protected under the constitution.

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it does not prevent a State or other legislature from working to remove the means of providing abortion

it does not prevent a State or other legislature from working to remove the means of providing (Fill in the blank)

Free Speech
Guns
Religion.

You are correct of course in the case of this decision. It is a work around for anything in the constitution.

It effectively establishes a precedent to allow a process that nullifies the US Constitution.

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Reply #35 - Dec 26^th, 2021 at 11:04am

AiA wrote on Dec 17^th, 2021 at 9:41am:

FDA relaxes controversial restrictions on access to abortion pill by mail

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If the Mississippi Law is sustained by the United States Supreme Court, effectively opening the flood gates for dozens upon dozens of other US States to follow suit, it will help save lives....lives of the yet unborn......& well worth the long wait.........all may not be saved, but it would be a solid start in the Right direction.....the direction of LIFE!!!

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 44733 Gender:	Re: ⮞ ⮞ SCOTUS - MISSISSIPPI ABORTION CASE ⮜ ⮜ Reply #37 - Dec 26^th, 2021 at 3:28pm Why is abortion preferable to adoption?
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Reply #38 - Dec 26^th, 2021 at 7:04pm

Frank wrote on Dec 26^th, 2021 at 3:28pm:

Why is abortion preferable to adoption?

Could be the same reason that mass school shootings are preferable to sensible gun regulation.

The only difference is that where the second amendment had to be re defined to protect the rights of mass shooters in schools it is not the case of the 14th amendment protecting the right of choice in reproduction.

In short the constitution says that reproduction decisions do not rest with the state but the individual.

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Reply #40 - Dec 27^th, 2021 at 7:46am

Dnarever wrote on Dec 26^th, 2021 at 7:04pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 26^th, 2021 at 3:28pm:

Why is abortion preferable to adoption?

Could be the same reason that mass school shootings are preferable to sensible gun regulation.

The only difference is that where the second amendment had to be re defined to protect the rights of mass shooters in schools it is not the case of the 14th amendment protecting the right of choice in reproduction.

In short the constitution says that reproduction decisions do not rest with the state but the individual.

That is a predictably and Bbwianesquely stupid, garbled, moronic attempt to to avoid the question.
Abortion is gun contol, adoption is mass shooting - it takes a duckwit to come up with that analogy.

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Reply #41 - Dec 27^th, 2021 at 7:56am

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2021 at 11:36pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 26^th, 2021 at 3:28pm:

Why is abortion preferable to adoption?

Why do advocates of free speech and Freedom want to remove a woman's right to make her own decisions???

Huh

Nobody is taking away her right. Nobody was policing her decision to fccky-fccky.

But when another life is at stake the decision is not hers alone. Late pregnancy abortion, for example, when a viable birth is possible, is efectively infanticide. That should not be her right.

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Reply #42 - Dec 27^th, 2021 at 8:49am

Frank wrote on Dec 27^th, 2021 at 7:56am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2021 at 11:36pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 26^th, 2021 at 3:28pm:

Why is abortion preferable to adoption?

Why do advocates of free speech and Freedom want to remove a woman's right to make her own decisions???

Huh

Nobody is taking away her right. Nobody was policing her decision to fccky-fccky.

But when another life is at stake the decision is not hers alone. Late pregnancy abortion, for example, when a viable birth is possible, is efectively infanticide. That should not be her right.

You judged all woman with your first rant....What about rape, incest, health issues and an individuals personal circumstances???

It is the woman that has to live with the decision she makes....Who's right should it be to make decisions about a woman's own body and future???

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Reply #43 - Dec 27^th, 2021 at 9:01am

Frank wrote on Dec 27^th, 2021 at 7:56am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2021 at 11:36pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 26^th, 2021 at 3:28pm:

Why is abortion preferable to adoption?

Why do advocates of free speech and Freedom want to remove a woman's right to make her own decisions???

Huh

Nobody is taking away her right. Nobody was policing her decision to fccky-fccky.

But when another life is at stake the decision is not hers alone. Late pregnancy abortion, for example, when a viable birth is possible, is efectively infanticide. That should not be her right.

If the Mississippi Law is sustained by the United States Supreme Court, it will help save lives....lives of the yet unborn, maybe not all, but it would be a solid start back in the Right direction........by effectively returning the Right to impose the People's will to govern over abortion, back to the States, as it was prior to Roe v Wade, when each State determined restrictions on abortion, if any at all.

At the end of the day, if the Mississippi Law is sustained by SCOTUS, women, in the State of Mississippi, will still be able to kill the unborn lives within them, but only until a heartbeat can be detected, or 15 weeks, whichever comes first.

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Reply #44 - Dec 27^th, 2021 at 11:44pm

Frank wrote on Dec 27^th, 2021 at 7:46am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 26^th, 2021 at 7:04pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 26^th, 2021 at 3:28pm:

Why is abortion preferable to adoption?

Could be the same reason that mass school shootings are preferable to sensible gun regulation.

The only difference is that where the second amendment had to be re defined to protect the rights of mass shooters in schools it is not the case of the 14th amendment protecting the right of choice in reproduction.

In short the constitution says that reproduction decisions do not rest with the state but the individual.

That is a predictably and Bbwianesquely stupid, garbled, moronic attempt to to avoid the question.
Abortion is gun contol, adoption is mass shooting - it takes a duckwit to come up with that analogy.

You should go back to your old name at least it sounded a bit smart or at least ambiguous enough to cast some doubt.

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Abortion is gun contol, adoption is mass shooting - it takes a duckwit to come up with that analogy.

Analogy is the comparison of different things they are not meant to be the same if they are it isn't an analogy ?

Both "is" statements make the proposition you are making incorrect, not a true interpretation of the text you are commenting on. There seems to be a issue with basic comprehension.

The comparison isn't to say that they are equal but to point out that they are both (different things) protected by the constitution on current interpretation in the same manner.

Roe V Wade in the case of the 14th amendment and the reinterpretation of the 2nd amendment in 2008 (Columbia v. Heller).

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