Australian Politics Forum - No Bitcute, No Memes. the Jury is OUT

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Re: No Bitcute, No Memes. the Jury is OUT
Reply #30 - Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 2:22pm

scope wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 7:11am:

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 21^st, 2021 at 4:54pm:

scope wrote on Dec 21^st, 2021 at 7:04am:

Typical response from a brain dead moron, cant prove me wrong about your claim that the CIA "invented" the term conspiracy theory, so decide to attack using lies and steering the thread away from his bullshit claim.

So show me where I defended the CIA.

I showed that your claim was more bullshit no defence of the CIA involved, this is the point when wombat ignores any further posts about his CIA claim,and will turn the thread off on a tangent simply because he cant defend the initial claim, oh! looks like he has already done that Grin

I said above that it was naive to think that the CIA would admit to using the term for nefarious purposes and your attitude prompted me to educate you on the crimes against humanity committed by that agency.

Now to your accusation that my claim is BS. Far from it:

https://www.amazon.com/Conspiracy-Theory-America-Discovering/dp/0292757697/ref=s...

And who is Prof. Lance deHaven-Smith?

Florida State University News - The Official News Source of Florida State University

Expert: Lance DeHaven-Smith

Professor Emeritus

DeHaven-Smith is an expert on demographic and partisan trends and voting behavior in Florida, as well as crime/issues that leave election outcomes in doubt.

https://news.fsu.edu/experts/lance-dehaven-smith/

Furthermore,

Professor Lance deHaven-Smith holds the Reubin Askew Eminent Scholar Chair in Florida Government and Politics in the Reubin Askew School of Public Administration and Policy at Florida State University. He received his B.A. degree from the University of Georgia, and his M.A. and Ph.D. from the Ohio State University. Dr. deHaven-Smith is the author of over a dozen books on topics ranging from the philosophy of science and political philosophy to American politics and elite political crime. His most recently published books are The Battle for Florida, which analyzes the disputed 2000 presidential election, and Conspiracy Theory in America, which traces the pejorative "conspiracy theory" label in American public discourse to a CIA propaganda program initiated in 1967.

In a 2006 peer-reviewed journal article, Dr. deHaven-Smith coined the term "state crimes against democracy" (SCADs) to delineate a crime category for Watergate, Iran-Contra, Plame-gate, and similar conspiracies in high office. In February 2010 the SCAD concept was the topic of a special issue of American Behavioral Scientist. In June 2010, the journal Public Integrity ( the ethics journal for the American Society of Public Administration) published a symposium issue on SCAD theory and research. Other articles on the SCAD construct have been published in the peer review journals Contemporary Politics, Administration and Society, and Public Administration Quarterly. The SCAD construct directs inquiry to a comparative analysis of known and suspected political crimes to identify patterns in targets, timing, policy consequences, officials who benefit, and other characteristics that points to criminogenic institutions and circumstances.

Dr. deHaven-Smith’s scholarship is nationally recognized. He has appeared on Good Morning America, the Today Show, NBC Nightly News with Tom Brokaw, CBS Nightly News with Dan Rather, the Jim Lehrer News Hour, CNN, NPR, and other national TV and radio shows.

"The CIA wrote a memo to all their media assets ... and (told) them that if they hear somebody criticizing the Warren Commission report just say that they're a conspiracy theorist ... so they wanted to create this term to discredit critics of the Warren Commission... but it didn't exist in the American political lexicon prior to 1967-68..."

Your original claim is BS, The CIA did not invent the term in the 60's.

But now ,as always you want to change your claim, now you are claiming that the term did not exist in the US political lexicon prior to 1967.
Nice try snowball but no cigar.
This is another method used by your ilk, get caught out, change the claim. Pathetic.

As always, fill your post with mostly irrelevant detail, who cares what Dr. DeHaven-Smith said in 2005, it's irrelevant to your original claim.

Just give up, you are out of your depth, as usual.

Ha! All you're doing is splitting hairs and grasping at straws.

You're full of it!

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Re: No Bitcute, No Memes. the Jury is OUT
Reply #31 - Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 4:59pm

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 2:22pm:

scope wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 7:11am:

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 21^st, 2021 at 4:54pm:

scope wrote on Dec 21^st, 2021 at 7:04am:

Typical response from a brain dead moron, cant prove me wrong about your claim that the CIA "invented" the term conspiracy theory, so decide to attack using lies and steering the thread away from his bullshit claim.

So show me where I defended the CIA.

I showed that your claim was more bullshit no defence of the CIA involved, this is the point when wombat ignores any further posts about his CIA claim,and will turn the thread off on a tangent simply because he cant defend the initial claim, oh! looks like he has already done that Grin

I said above that it was naive to think that the CIA would admit to using the term for nefarious purposes and your attitude prompted me to educate you on the crimes against humanity committed by that agency.

Now to your accusation that my claim is BS. Far from it:

https://www.amazon.com/Conspiracy-Theory-America-Discovering/dp/0292757697/ref=s...

And who is Prof. Lance deHaven-Smith?

Florida State University News - The Official News Source of Florida State University

Expert: Lance DeHaven-Smith

Professor Emeritus

DeHaven-Smith is an expert on demographic and partisan trends and voting behavior in Florida, as well as crime/issues that leave election outcomes in doubt.

https://news.fsu.edu/experts/lance-dehaven-smith/

Furthermore,

Professor Lance deHaven-Smith holds the Reubin Askew Eminent Scholar Chair in Florida Government and Politics in the Reubin Askew School of Public Administration and Policy at Florida State University. He received his B.A. degree from the University of Georgia, and his M.A. and Ph.D. from the Ohio State University. Dr. deHaven-Smith is the author of over a dozen books on topics ranging from the philosophy of science and political philosophy to American politics and elite political crime. His most recently published books are The Battle for Florida, which analyzes the disputed 2000 presidential election, and Conspiracy Theory in America, which traces the pejorative "conspiracy theory" label in American public discourse to a CIA propaganda program initiated in 1967.

In a 2006 peer-reviewed journal article, Dr. deHaven-Smith coined the term "state crimes against democracy" (SCADs) to delineate a crime category for Watergate, Iran-Contra, Plame-gate, and similar conspiracies in high office. In February 2010 the SCAD concept was the topic of a special issue of American Behavioral Scientist. In June 2010, the journal Public Integrity ( the ethics journal for the American Society of Public Administration) published a symposium issue on SCAD theory and research. Other articles on the SCAD construct have been published in the peer review journals Contemporary Politics, Administration and Society, and Public Administration Quarterly. The SCAD construct directs inquiry to a comparative analysis of known and suspected political crimes to identify patterns in targets, timing, policy consequences, officials who benefit, and other characteristics that points to criminogenic institutions and circumstances.

Dr. deHaven-Smith’s scholarship is nationally recognized. He has appeared on Good Morning America, the Today Show, NBC Nightly News with Tom Brokaw, CBS Nightly News with Dan Rather, the Jim Lehrer News Hour, CNN, NPR, and other national TV and radio shows.

"The CIA wrote a memo to all their media assets ... and (told) them that if they hear somebody criticizing the Warren Commission report just say that they're a conspiracy theorist ... so they wanted to create this term to discredit critics of the Warren Commission... but it didn't exist in the American political lexicon prior to 1967-68..."

Your original claim is BS, The CIA did not invent the term in the 60's.

But now ,as always you want to change your claim, now you are claiming that the term did not exist in the US political lexicon prior to 1967.
Nice try snowball but no cigar.
This is another method used by your ilk, get caught out, change the claim. Pathetic.

As always, fill your post with mostly irrelevant detail, who cares what Dr. DeHaven-Smith said in 2005, it's irrelevant to your original claim.

Just give up, you are out of your depth, as usual.

Ha! All you're doing is splitting hairs and grasping at straws.

You're full of it!

The only one full of it around here sunshine is you, Grin

Whats wrong? run out of argument, proved wrong once again ? now want to take your bat and ball and go home?

Hmmm.... might be something in the theory that conspiracy nutjobs do have a low education, after all.

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Re: No Bitcute, No Memes. the Jury is OUT
Reply #32 - Dec 23^rd, 2021 at 7:22pm

scope wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 4:59pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 2:22pm:

scope wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 7:11am:

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 21^st, 2021 at 4:54pm:

scope wrote on Dec 21^st, 2021 at 7:04am:

Typical response from a brain dead moron, cant prove me wrong about your claim that the CIA "invented" the term conspiracy theory, so decide to attack using lies and steering the thread away from his bullshit claim.

So show me where I defended the CIA.

I showed that your claim was more bullshit no defence of the CIA involved, this is the point when wombat ignores any further posts about his CIA claim,and will turn the thread off on a tangent simply because he cant defend the initial claim, oh! looks like he has already done that Grin

I said above that it was naive to think that the CIA would admit to using the term for nefarious purposes and your attitude prompted me to educate you on the crimes against humanity committed by that agency.

Now to your accusation that my claim is BS. Far from it:

https://www.amazon.com/Conspiracy-Theory-America-Discovering/dp/0292757697/ref=s...

And who is Prof. Lance deHaven-Smith?

Florida State University News - The Official News Source of Florida State University

Expert: Lance DeHaven-Smith

Professor Emeritus

DeHaven-Smith is an expert on demographic and partisan trends and voting behavior in Florida, as well as crime/issues that leave election outcomes in doubt.

https://news.fsu.edu/experts/lance-dehaven-smith/

Furthermore,

Professor Lance deHaven-Smith holds the Reubin Askew Eminent Scholar Chair in Florida Government and Politics in the Reubin Askew School of Public Administration and Policy at Florida State University. He received his B.A. degree from the University of Georgia, and his M.A. and Ph.D. from the Ohio State University. Dr. deHaven-Smith is the author of over a dozen books on topics ranging from the philosophy of science and political philosophy to American politics and elite political crime. His most recently published books are The Battle for Florida, which analyzes the disputed 2000 presidential election, and Conspiracy Theory in America, which traces the pejorative "conspiracy theory" label in American public discourse to a CIA propaganda program initiated in 1967.

In a 2006 peer-reviewed journal article, Dr. deHaven-Smith coined the term "state crimes against democracy" (SCADs) to delineate a crime category for Watergate, Iran-Contra, Plame-gate, and similar conspiracies in high office. In February 2010 the SCAD concept was the topic of a special issue of American Behavioral Scientist. In June 2010, the journal Public Integrity ( the ethics journal for the American Society of Public Administration) published a symposium issue on SCAD theory and research. Other articles on the SCAD construct have been published in the peer review journals Contemporary Politics, Administration and Society, and Public Administration Quarterly. The SCAD construct directs inquiry to a comparative analysis of known and suspected political crimes to identify patterns in targets, timing, policy consequences, officials who benefit, and other characteristics that points to criminogenic institutions and circumstances.

Dr. deHaven-Smith’s scholarship is nationally recognized. He has appeared on Good Morning America, the Today Show, NBC Nightly News with Tom Brokaw, CBS Nightly News with Dan Rather, the Jim Lehrer News Hour, CNN, NPR, and other national TV and radio shows.

"The CIA wrote a memo to all their media assets ... and (told) them that if they hear somebody criticizing the Warren Commission report just say that they're a conspiracy theorist ... so they wanted to create this term to discredit critics of the Warren Commission... but it didn't exist in the American political lexicon prior to 1967-68..."

Your original claim is BS, The CIA did not invent the term in the 60's.

But now ,as always you want to change your claim, now you are claiming that the term did not exist in the US political lexicon prior to 1967.
Nice try snowball but no cigar.
This is another method used by your ilk, get caught out, change the claim. Pathetic.

As always, fill your post with mostly irrelevant detail, who cares what Dr. DeHaven-Smith said in 2005, it's irrelevant to your original claim.

Just give up, you are out of your depth, as usual.

Ha! All you're doing is splitting hairs and grasping at straws.

You're full of it!

The only one full of it around here sunshine is you, Grin

Whats wrong? run out of argument, proved wrong once again ? now want to take your bat and ball and go home?

Hmmm.... might be something in the theory that conspiracy nutjobs do have a low education, after all.

Poor thing, doesn't understand the idiom splitting hairs.

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Re: No Bitcute, No Memes. the Jury is OUT
Reply #33 - Dec 23^rd, 2021 at 9:00pm

Poor thing, doesn't understand the idiom splitting hairs. [/quote]

Is that the best comeback you have?
Hey thats ok, you are not fooling anybody except yourself with your constant change of direction.

You stick with telling half truths and open lies from facebook, its about your level, its fun to watch you squirm and try to get out from under the avalanche of your own making.

Actually says more about your character, get caught out in a lie and instead of saying " I was wrong" continue to dodge and try to claim you said something different. Thats what children do. Grin

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Re: No Bitcute, No Memes. the Jury is OUT
Reply #34 - Dec 29^th, 2021 at 8:30pm

VACCINE UPDATE

91.2%
of people aged 16 and over are double vaccinated

8.3% have had booster

https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/numbers-sta...

In today's update,

Australia has overtaken the UK

in double vaccinations

I'M just bewildered as to just what keeps the
CONSPIRACY THEORISTS
GOING

OBVIOUSLY
, no one is
LISTENING
just
LAUGHING
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Re: No Bitcute, No Memes. the Jury is OUT
Reply #35 - May 4^th, 2022 at 11:39am

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 17^th, 2021 at 6:39pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 17^th, 2021 at 4:54pm:

More MSM propaganda.

Here, read this,

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBBy.pl?num=1637992009

FIRSTLY, there is no such body as "Physicians of the World"

SECONDLY, as with these "Maverick Medics" - there are a similar minute number of "scientists" who will tell you "climate change is not happening" - despite ALL data saying otherwise

In BOTH cases, I go with the data - and the scientific evidence
As opposed to the personal opinion of an number of anti-vax GP's

If I found out my OWN personal general practitioner was anti-science, anti-medication - and anti-vaccination - well, frankly, I'd be seeking out ANOTHER

But opinions ASIDE - COVID19 vaccination rates in Australia, clearly show that the misinformative scare campaign mounted by anti-vaxx conspiracy theorists was a waste of EVERYONE's yours INCLUDED

EPIC FAIL

I's time you got back to your core value conspiracy theories

Moon landings were FAKED

"Chemtrails" are there for mass sterilisation

Keeping tabs on the Illuminati - and Freemasons plots

Alerting the world to the Hilary Clinton 'baby brothel'
operating from behind a pizza take-out in Manhattan

Joe Biden using secret NASA weather machines, to create tornados in Republican states

... and back to vaccines, what's the latest on those
microchips included - as tracking devices
- in preparation for
"One World Government"
?

Ya gotta LAUGH !

No sooner do the
CTC

(Conspiracy Theory Community)

come up with a totally BIZZARE piece of BULLSH!T, one of the cult will knock up a
MEME
as supposed
"proof"
of their
crazy claim

As every new
conspiracy theory
is rapidly debunked (
via REAL medical research, REAL science and REAL data) -
expect ANOTHER new
MEME
as
"proof"
that
Big Pharma
and
Big Media
are in cahoots with the
Illuminati
and the
Shape Shifting Lizard People
for population control and WORLD DOMINATION

A list has leaked from
Conspiracy Central
letting cult members know of
(mostly recycled)
campaigns to focus on, once COVID19 is forgotten history

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories

.

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Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'

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Re: No Bitcute, No Memes. the Jury is OUT
Reply #36 - May 7^th, 2022 at 7:11pm

Carl D wrote on Dec 18^th, 2021 at 7:47am:

I see

OzPol's antivaxxer/conspiracy nutter brigade

is out in force the past couple of days.

And you're probably wondering why the bulk of them have been
AWOL
over the last week, or so ?

My FIRST guess was and RDO and shift roster error

But NO !

I've heard -
from a very reliable source
- that April's allocation of memes have yet to be delivered
It was decided by Team Leaders that making a claim - without
a meme for proof and validation
- could
make them look like one big laughing stock

Australia Post
's only response has been - that the delay is a
"covid related issue"

Clive Palmer's United Australia Party
's only reply to questing was
"no comment"

.

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Re: No Bitcute, No Memes. the Jury is OUT
Reply #38 - May 10^th, 2022 at 8:16pm

buzzanddidj wrote on May 7^th, 2022 at 7:11pm:

Carl D wrote on Dec 18^th, 2021 at 7:47am:

I see

OzPol's antivaxxer/conspiracy nutter brigade

is out in force the past couple of days.

And you're probably wondering why the bulk of them have been
AWOL
over the last week, or so ?

My FIRST guess was and RDO and shift roster error

But NO !

I've heard -
from a very reliable source
- that April's allocation of memes have yet to be delivered
It was decided by Team Leaders that making a claim - without
a meme for proof and validation
- could
make them look like one big laughing stock

Australia Post
's only response has been - that the delay is a
"covid related issue"

Clive Palmer's United Australia Party
's only reply to questing was
"no comment"

.

NEWS FLASH - OFFICIAL

R.I.P.

Yadda

Missing in action,
Apr 13th, 2022 at 5:36pm

Get well -

Madam Loose Screw

A
"reliable source"
has
MLS
on a
ventilator
, inside a leading hospital's
Covid ICU ward

This
"domino effect"
appears to have started at the top of
Conspiracy Central
- and working its way down

.

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Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'

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Re: No Bitcute, No Memes. the Jury is OUT
Reply #39 - Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:27am

buzzanddidj wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:08am:

.

Why do

conspiracy theorists

persist, with such vigour, in trying to pass of a

MEME

as some sort of proof and verification ?

ANYONE can knock up a meme - and have it say anything they want it to say

Of course we DO understand your reluctance in

posting a URL to the ORIGINAL

You can't FUDGE those

A

MEME

with a URL of ...

https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/BECD24FE-2FA4-4047-B389-B81454...

is OBVIOUSLY not an authentic document - but

a FAKE

.
.

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Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'

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Re: No Bitcute, No Memes. the Jury is OUT
Reply #40 - Jun 9^th, 2022 at 12:46pm

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 17^th, 2021 at 4:54pm:

More MSM propaganda.

Here, read this,

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1637992009

WHO would want to read YOUR

conspiracy theories

- and WHY ?

The evidence is clearly shown, in the data

The

conspiracy theorists

campaign has been a total FIZZER
!

.

.

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Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'

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