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Jan 2nd, 2022 at 10:18am
 
4 year old Asymptomatic
15 year old - hit by a truck
Wife - 6/10 compared to a bad flu
Me - had a stuffy nose last night, had a bad sleep but feel good this morning, did an hour on the treadmill and mowed the lawn already.

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Reply #1 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 10:53am
 
The vitamin supplement companies must really like you.
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Reply #2 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 11:08am
 
Gnads wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 10:53am:
The vitamin supplement companies must really like you.


There's no controversy that low D levels are associated with poor covid outcomes and there's some, not much, but some evidence that high dose C moves the needle.

Both are cheap and totally harmless. I had the D because my daughter actually got a low D reading last winter, I never usually take C so bought it.

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Reply #3 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 12:24pm
 
Open all your windows you need good ventilation so you don't rebreathe virus.

Get everyone out in the sun if you have a backyard.

Zinc is essential for healthy immune system. 6 oysters give 370% of RDI so eat a few of them. Zinc supplements are water soluble so they have a difficult time getting past lipids in cells water and oil don't really mix so oils in oysters help cells absorb zinc.

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Reply #4 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 1:57pm
 
well done gordon.

natural immunity has been shown in 140 studies to be superior to vaccine immunity.

and it looks like it induces memory cells and will last for years.


interesting that israel is currently onto pfizer jab 4 and has a higher death rate then surrounding palestine which has very low vaccination rates.

you can kick back with a beer and watch the rest of australia confront the sniffles.

pfizer will be very disappointed they cant monetise you anymore, they might get their mates at google and facebook to ban you if you post that it was no big deal. cant have their bottom line compromised
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Reply #5 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm
 
move out of the Coffin-Apartment City lifestyle for starters and you might find some fresh air to breath without the need for a ventilator.
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Reply #6 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 2:10pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm:
move out of the Coffin-Apartment City lifestyle for starters and you might find some fresh air to breath without the need for a ventilator.


Apartment, pfft.
I just shooed girlchild into the backyard which is now mostly shaded, she's lying on the trampoline with her laptop watching Cobra Kai S4.

BTW, we didn't catch it in Siddy.
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Reply #7 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 2:21pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 1:57pm:
well done gordon.

natural immunity has been shown in 140 studies to be superior to vaccine immunity.

and it looks like it induces memory cells and will last for years.


interesting that israel is currently onto pfizer jab 4 and has a higher death rate then surrounding palestine which has very low vaccination rates.

you can kick back with a beer and watch the rest of australia confront the sniffles.

pfizer will be very disappointed they cant monetise you anymore, they might get their mates at google and facebook to ban you if you post that it was no big deal. cant have their bottom line compromised


It's actually good timing for Omicron to let rip in Australia.

We're all recently vaxxed, Omicron and reportedly milder and doesn't attack the lungs as much. Vaccination + exposure = best immunity.


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Reply #8 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 2:29pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 10:18am:
4 year old Asymptomatic
15 year old - hit by a truck
Wife - 6/10 compared to a bad flu
Me - had a stuffy nose last night, had a bad sleep but feel good this morning, did an hour on the treadmill and mowed the lawn already.

https://i.ibb.co/ZGkHZkk/20220101-193103.jpg


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Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 12:24pm:
Open all your windows you need good ventilation so you don't rebreathe virus.

Get everyone out in the sun if you have a backyard.

Zinc is essential for healthy immune system. 6 oysters give 370% of RDI so eat a few of them. Zinc supplements are water soluble so they have a difficult time getting past lipids in cells water and oil don't really mix so oils in oysters help cells absorb zinc.



I agree.
Apparently Zinc is absorbed through the gums.
So let zinc tablets or mussels stay in your mouth as long as reasonable.
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Reply #10 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 6:14pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 2:31pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 12:24pm:
Open all your windows you need good ventilation so you don't rebreathe virus.

Get everyone out in the sun if you have a backyard.

Zinc is essential for healthy immune system. 6 oysters give 370% of RDI so eat a few of them. Zinc supplements are water soluble so they have a difficult time getting past lipids in cells water and oil don't really mix so oils in oysters help cells absorb zinc.



I agree.
Apparently Zinc is absorbed through the gums.
So let zinc tablets or mussels stay in your mouth as long as reasonable.


There are no health dangers with high Vitamin D levels. Supplements can take a few days to build Vit D levels up so best to sunbake without using sunscreen don't burn as that is too much sun. Strip off as much as you dare for best results.

Studies show Vit D levels over 50Ng/Ml might result in sniffles when levels drop below 20 Ng/Ml and below 10 Ng/Ml you're at risk of severe covid.

Not sure about Zinc being absorbed through gums i think it's absorbed in digestive system. Natural sources are always better than supplements.

It's possible to have too much Zinc in diet so eat your leafy greens to help your body process it.

The vaccine doesn't fight this virus your immune system does all the work so you need Vit D and Zinc for good immune system response.
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Reply #11 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 7:33pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 6:14pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 2:31pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 12:24pm:
Open all your windows you need good ventilation so you don't rebreathe virus.

Get everyone out in the sun if you have a backyard.

Zinc is essential for healthy immune system. 6 oysters give 370% of RDI so eat a few of them. Zinc supplements are water soluble so they have a difficult time getting past lipids in cells water and oil don't really mix so oils in oysters help cells absorb zinc.



I agree.
Apparently Zinc is absorbed through the gums.
So let zinc tablets or mussels stay in your mouth as long as reasonable.


There are no health dangers with high Vitamin D levels.


Vitamin D toxicity, also called hypervitaminosis D, is a rare but potentially serious condition that occurs when you have excessive amounts of vitamin D in your body.

Vitamin D toxicity is usually caused by large doses of vitamin D supplements — not by diet or sun exposure. That's because your body regulates the amount of vitamin D produced by sun exposure, and even fortified foods don't contain large amounts of vitamin D.

The main consequence of vitamin D toxicity is a buildup of calcium in your blood (hypercalcemia), which can cause nausea and vomiting, weakness, and frequent urination. Vitamin D toxicity might progress to bone pain and kidney problems, such as the formation of calcium stones.

What is vitamin D toxicity?
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Reply #12 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 7:46pm
 
Zoom in on the bottle of vit D, it's 1000IU. I got everyone (not the 4 year old) to take x6 and that's it for the week. Yes you can take a week's allowance in one go.

Taking 60,000 international units (IU) a day of vitamin D for several months has been shown to cause toxicity. This level is many times higher than the U.S. Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) for most adults of 600 IU of vitamin D a day.


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Reply #13 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 7:53pm
 
So the 4 year old got a stonking temp of 39.5 mid afternoon. Got some panadol into him and by bed time it was down to 37 and he's back to being a frog in a sock.

15 year old is copping the worst for some reason. She had a temp of 39 early this morning and her oxygen saturation was a bit on the low side. Got some panadol and aspirin into her and all good.

I'm nearly asymptomatic, only tied as I hardly slept last night from checking the girls every 2 or so hours.
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Reply #14 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 8:26pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 7:46pm:
Zoom in on the bottle of vit D, it's 1000IU. I got everyone (not the 4 year old) to take x6 and that's it for the week. Yes you can take a week's allowance in one go.

Taking 60,000 international units (IU) a day of vitamin D for several months has been shown to cause toxicity. This level is many times higher than the U.S. Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) for most adults of 600 IU of vitamin D a day.




60,000 Iu would be taking 60 tablets a day how many are in the bottle and would that be a bottle a day?

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The Institute of Medicine's Food and Nutrition Board's old 1997 recommendations suggested that 2,000 IU per day of vitamin D is safe for adults and that 1,000 IU per day is safe for infants up to 12 months of age. Many observers expected a drastic increase in the IOM's 2010 update.

That didn't exactly happen. The IOM committee did increase its "upper level intake" -- that is, the boundary at which it feared vitamin D would become unsafe. That dose is 4,000 IU/day for adults, 3,000 IU/day for kids ages 4-8, 2,500 IU/day for kids ages 1-3, 1,500 IU/day for infants ages 6-12 months, and 1,000 IU/day for infants ages 0-6 months.

But some recent studies suggest that healthy adults can tolerate more than 10,000 IU of vitamin D per day. John Jacob Cannell, MD, executive director of The Vitamin D Council, notes that the skin makes 10,000 IU of vitamin D after 30 minutes of full-body sun exposure. He suggests that 10,000 IU of vitamin D is not toxic.

According to the National Institutes of Health, 25-OHD levels that are consistently over 200 ng/mL are "potentially toxic."

https://www.webmd.com/osteoporosis/features/the-truth-about-vitamin-d-can-you-ge...


15 minutes on your back followed by 15 minutes face down in the sun while nearly naked gives you 10,000 IU a day it's cheaper than supplements. Most people can handle 10-12 minutes easily without burning.

For best protection you need just over 50 Ng/Ml.

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Recommendations on optimal vitamin D levels vary, but research suggests that levels between 30–60 ng/mL are likely optimal and may help protect against illness and disease

Most cases of vitamin D toxicity are caused by inappropriate supplement dosing and prescription errors.

For example, in a 2020 case report, a 73-year-old man developed vitamin D toxicity after taking 10,000 IU of vitamin D per day for many years

In another 2020 case report, a 56-year-old woman who took an average of 130,000 IU of vitamin D per day for 20 months in hopes of improving symptoms of multiple sclerosis was hospitalized for symptoms including nausea, vomiting, and muscle weakness.

Her vitamin D levels were discovered to be 265 ng/mL (11Trusted Source).

Note that 130,000 IU is over 30 times the generally recommended safe upper limit of 4,000 IU per day.

Keep in mind that people who are low or deficient in vitamin D typically need to take much higher levels than the current Tolerable Upper Intake Level (UL) of 4,000 IU per day to reach and maintain optimal vitamin D levels.

a 2015 case study reported that an older man with dementia who received 50,000 IU of vitamin D daily for 6 months was repeatedly hospitalized with symptoms related to high calcium levels

In another case study, an 18-month-old child who was given 50,000 IU of vitamin D3 for 3 months experienced diarrhea, stomach pain, and other symptoms. These symptoms resolved after the child stopped taking the supplements

In a 2021 case report, a 64-year-old man accidentally took 200,000 IU of vitamin D per day because he misunderstood medication instructions. He showed altered mental status and other serious symptoms related to hypercalcemia

Vitamin D deficiency is generally recognized as serum vitamin D levels less than 20 ng/mL. People who have levels that fall between 21–29 ng/mL are considered to have insufficient vitamin D levels

Healthcare professionals may recommend people who are very low in vitamin D take very high weekly doses of 50,000 IU for 8 weeks, followed by a maintenance dose of 2,000 IU per day after their levels reach 30 ng/mL


Make sure to avoid excessive doses of vitamin D. Generally, for people with adequate vitamin D levels, taking supplements of 4,000 IU or fewer per day is considered safe.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vitamin-d-side-effects#The-bottom-line



You have to take a shitload of Vit D tablets for a long time to have problems.
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