Gordon wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 8:27am:



and? they still have covid. Irrespective of why they went in, the hospital has to have the resources to isolate them and any staff that have been in contact with them, no matter what other conditions they have.

Instead of putting them in a ward with 6 other patients, they have to close the ward off to other patients because this one patient has covid. That can mean that 5 other beds can become unavailable. Most public hospitals have a limited number of private rooms, most wards are built to be shared.

this whole point about the reasons for hospital admissions is just more of the right wing nut jobs trying to downplay the effect covid is having on our hospital systems

John Smith wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 3:56pm:


put all the covid patients in one room and get a nurse who has already had it (which will soon be every health worker) to look after them. problem solved

and lets not forget how fortunate we are .

maybe we can get some perspective
Today, victoria had 8,000 cases  and only 3 deaths. in 2020  700 people caught the virus and that same day, 25 died.

omnicron is our best friend

Frank wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 8:50am:


The current hospitalizaton rate is about 2 weeks lagging behind the case numbers.   The number of COVID admissions had doubled over the past week. 

And Mark Latham is a politician with an uterior motive, he has lack of knowledge of Australian Health Care system, and medicine as whole.

How do you know even if the COVID infection is picked up on admission, its not related.  For example, an elderly lady can have a heart attack, but the reason for the heart attack is because she is sick with COVID.   Or perhaps another woman return to the hospital with fever, the staff thought it was post surgical wound infection, however, she has COVID as well.   Remember your usual fit young man with a broken finger usually do not get admitted to hospital. 

Hospital is where all the sick and frail people goes.  This is a fact.   If suddenly, you have suffered a major heart attack or stroke, do you really want to be treated in a hospital ward full of COVID?  What will be your chance of survival if you get covid AND the original conditon that landed you in Hospital?   So, there had to be two areas being fenced off from each other: COVID and non COVID, this means double the amount of staff required.   Which then creates a nightmare at triage. 

Even in normal circumstances, sometimes, an elective surgery do not happen because an ICU bed had to be taken up by someone just got injured from a car accident.  This is the state of our health care system right now.  So lets be realistic.   1000 hospital admission, at a ratio of 5 to 1 (should be 4 to 1), means you need 200 nurses x3 shift = 600 extra nurses PER DAY.   Now, where do these nurses come from?  They just dont conjure  out of thin air. 

Be real, and stop listening to ONE nation.  They have no idea.  The nation will be doom if any of those lousy lot get to manage the country.

this whole point about the reasons for hospital admissions is just more of the right wing nut jobs trying to downplay the effect covid is having on our hospital systems

Up to 2000 health workers risk losing their jobs for not being vaccinated against COVID-19 with paramedics, nurses and doctors who have been stood down expected to explain why they have not got a shot.

NSW Health Services Union secretary Gerard Hayes said the state was “very close to making the call” about terminating the employment of health workers refusing to get a COVID-19 jab without an adequate reason.

NSW Health said 215 health workers had so far quit since late last month over their position on vaccination.


The news of further job losses come as a paramedic lost his Supreme Court challenge against mandatory vaccination on religious grounds on Wednesday
The court rejected his application and upheld the public health orders saying it would be of no comfort to a patient infected by an unvaccinated healthcare worker to be told they were “unlucky by being in the wrong ward at the wrong time because most healthcare workers had been vaccinated”.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/hundreds-of-health-workers-at-risk-of-job-lo...

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 12:02pm:

NSW has 2.9 million hospital admissions each year along with 3 million Emergency Department presentations.

1000 admissions is 0.035 % of 2.9 million.  The question of proportion is: how does 0.035 % overwhelm a system? 
There has to be some 'help'from daft rules and directives like 'close contact' staff sent home for two weeks even if they tested negative or some such. Because otherwise I do not see how 0.035% of cases can crack a system.

Gordon wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 8:55am:



Well - you'll have to stay locked up for 14 days.

Looks like you'll spend a lot of time on Ozpol.

this whole point about the reasons for hospital admissions is just more of the right wing nut jobs trying to downplay the effect covid is having on our hospital systems

Up to 2000 health workers risk losing their jobs for not being vaccinated against COVID-19 with paramedics, nurses and doctors who have been stood down expected to explain why they have not got a shot.

NSW Health Services Union secretary Gerard Hayes said the state was “very close to making the call” about terminating the employment of health workers refusing to get a COVID-19 jab without an adequate reason.

NSW Health said 215 health workers had so far quit since late last month over their position on vaccination.


The news of further job losses come as a paramedic lost his Supreme Court challenge against mandatory vaccination on religious grounds on Wednesday
The court rejected his application and upheld the public health orders saying it would be of no comfort to a patient infected by an unvaccinated healthcare worker to be told they were “unlucky by being in the wrong ward at the wrong time because most healthcare workers had been vaccinated”.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/hundreds-of-health-workers-at-risk-of-job-lo...