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Reply #15 - Jan 4th, 2022 at 11:32am
 
freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 11:30am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 10:49am:
freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 8:17am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:00pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 6:52pm:
What I see there is a difference between Europe and the US. In the US there would have been a dozen dead on each side. The Dutch police prefer to go the biff.



So you think that mutilating a person's arm or hand is justified?


I think it is better than getting shot.

What is the worst injury that came out of that riot?

I mean actual injury, not something you made up.



An average size dog can crunch right through a leg of lamb
bone in 1 second so what would a German Shepherd do to your hand or arm?


I think you should stick to the facts. They were not feeding the protestors to their dogs.



Sorry - I don't have hospital records to go on -
all I have is common sense.
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Re: Vicious police in Holland
Reply #16 - Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:05pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 11:32am:
freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 11:30am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 10:49am:
freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 8:17am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:00pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 6:52pm:
What I see there is a difference between Europe and the US. In the US there would have been a dozen dead on each side. The Dutch police prefer to go the biff.



So you think that mutilating a person's arm or hand is justified?


I think it is better than getting shot.

What is the worst injury that came out of that riot?

I mean actual injury, not something you made up.



An average size dog can crunch right through a leg of lamb
bone in 1 second so what would a German Shepherd do to your hand or arm?


I think you should stick to the facts. They were not feeding the protestors to their dogs.



Sorry - I don't have hospital records to go on -
all I have is common sense.


So your "common sense" tells you that that German Shepherd in the video bit straight through that guy's arm bones, crippling him for life?

What do your eyes and ears tell you?
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Re: Vicious police in Holland
Reply #17 - Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:13pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:05pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 11:32am:
freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 11:30am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 10:49am:
freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 8:17am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:00pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 6:52pm:
What I see there is a difference between Europe and the US. In the US there would have been a dozen dead on each side. The Dutch police prefer to go the biff.



So you think that mutilating a person's arm or hand is justified?


I think it is better than getting shot.

What is the worst injury that came out of that riot?

I mean actual injury, not something you made up.



An average size dog can crunch right through a leg of lamb
bone in 1 second so what would a German Shepherd do to your hand or arm?


I think you should stick to the facts. They were not feeding the protestors to their dogs.



Sorry - I don't have hospital records to go on -
all I have is common sense.


So your "common sense" tells you that that German Shepherd in the video bit straight through that guy's arm bones, crippling him for life?

What do your eyes and ears tell you?



It didn't bite right through but it would have crushed the arm or hand on all those poor victims
of police atrocities.
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Re: Vicious police in Holland
Reply #18 - Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:17pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:13pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:05pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 11:32am:
freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 11:30am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 10:49am:
freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 8:17am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:00pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 6:52pm:
What I see there is a difference between Europe and the US. In the US there would have been a dozen dead on each side. The Dutch police prefer to go the biff.



So you think that mutilating a person's arm or hand is justified?


I think it is better than getting shot.

What is the worst injury that came out of that riot?

I mean actual injury, not something you made up.



An average size dog can crunch right through a leg of lamb
bone in 1 second so what would a German Shepherd do to your hand or arm?


I think you should stick to the facts. They were not feeding the protestors to their dogs.



Sorry - I don't have hospital records to go on -
all I have is common sense.


So your "common sense" tells you that that German Shepherd in the video bit straight through that guy's arm bones, crippling him for life?

What do your eyes and ears tell you?



It didn't bite right through but it would have crushed the arm or hand on all those poor victims
of police atrocities.


How badly Bobby? What does your common sense tell you? If it is actually common sense, it should be telling you not to make it up as you go along.

The police are also more than capable of cracking people's heads right open with those baton's. What does your "Bobby common sense" tell you they did?
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Reply #19 - Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:19pm
 
The size of the crowd at that protest was incredible.

Shouldn't the Govt and police reflect the will of the people, rather than sicking dogs onto them?
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Reply #20 - Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:21pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:17pm:
How badly Bobby? What does your common sense tell you? If it is actually common sense, it should be telling you not to make it up as you go along.

The police are also more than capable of cracking people's heads right open with those baton's. What does your "Bobby common sense" tell you they did?



How badly? - perhaps the people mangled by dogs will lose
the use of their hand and or arm for life.

As for cops bashing people on the head with batons -
concussion and brain damage for life.
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Reply #21 - Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:23pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:21pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:17pm:
How badly Bobby? What does your common sense tell you? If it is actually common sense, it should be telling you not to make it up as you go along.

The police are also more than capable of cracking people's heads right open with those baton's. What does your "Bobby common sense" tell you they did?



How badly? - perhaps the people mangled by dogs will lose
the use of their hand and or arm for life.

As for cops bashing people on the head with batons -
concussion and brain damage for life.


No Bobby. Read the question. I was asking you what actually happened.

Do you feel compelled to make up lies whenever you don't know the answer?
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Reply #22 - Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:33pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:23pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:21pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:17pm:
How badly Bobby? What does your common sense tell you? If it is actually common sense, it should be telling you not to make it up as you go along.

The police are also more than capable of cracking people's heads right open with those baton's. What does your "Bobby common sense" tell you they did?



How badly? - perhaps the people mangled by dogs will lose
the use of their hand and or arm for life.

As for cops bashing people on the head with batons -
concussion and brain damage for life.


No Bobby. Read the question. I was asking you what actually happened.

Do you feel compelled to make up lies whenever you don't know the answer?



We don't know exactly what happened but we have eyes.
The video in the OP was not shown on TV -
on TV it did show people protesting but not the police brutality.
Of course it didn't show the results in hospital
from the terrible injuries.
The truth has been blocked.

We are left to make guesses based on common sense.
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Reply #23 - Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:42pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:33pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:23pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:21pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:17pm:
How badly Bobby? What does your common sense tell you? If it is actually common sense, it should be telling you not to make it up as you go along.

The police are also more than capable of cracking people's heads right open with those baton's. What does your "Bobby common sense" tell you they did?



How badly? - perhaps the people mangled by dogs will lose
the use of their hand and or arm for life.

As for cops bashing people on the head with batons -
concussion and brain damage for life.


No Bobby. Read the question. I was asking you what actually happened.

Do you feel compelled to make up lies whenever you don't know the answer?



We don't know exactly what happened but we have eyes.
The video in the OP was not shown on TV -
on TV it did show people protesting but not the police brutality.
Of course it didn't show the results in hospital
from the terrible injuries.
The truth has been blocked.

We are left to make guesses based on common sense.


Are you suggesting a cover-up, or just you being too lazy to check your facts?

We do know exactly what happened because we just saw it all on video from multiple angles.

Can you explain the difference between "guesses based on common sense" and making up lies?
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Reply #24 - Jan 4th, 2022 at 1:37pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:42pm:
Are you suggesting a cover-up, or just you being too lazy to check your facts?

We do know exactly what happened because we just saw it all on video from multiple angles.

Can you explain the difference between "guesses based on common sense" and making up lies?



I'm not lazy - the facts cannot be determined
as we would need hospital records.

I haven't made up any lies -
I made assumptions.

What are your assumptions? -
that no injuries resulted?

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Reply #25 - Jan 4th, 2022 at 1:53pm
 
indeed bobby

police dogs should be reserved for the apex gang

not for citizens exercising their democratic rite to protest
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Reply #26 - Jan 4th, 2022 at 1:56pm
 
Some other police dog bite incidents:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/11/29/these-brutal-police-dog-attacks...


An estimated 40,000 people were treated for K-9 attacks in hospital emergency rooms from 2009 to 2018, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


Although deaths are rare, the nonprofit Marshall Project news organization found at least three people had died of injuries from police dog bites since 2011.


Roberts suffered multiple bites and tears to his left shoulder and arm that required several surgeries that did not fully restore the use, mobility or strength in his arm, medical records show. The city settled with Roberts last year for $390,000.


A German shepherd was unleashed on him anyway, chomping down on his left leg, causing injuries that required multiple surgeries in an attempt to repair nerve, muscle and tendon damage.


The officer was unable to get the dog to release its grip on command, and as the dog was being pulled off Anglero-Wyrick, it ripped a hunk of flesh from his right leg the size of a baseball, leading to a three-week hospital stay and multiple surgeries, records show.
The mauling left him disfigured, and months of physical therapy has not helped him regain the full use of his leg.
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Reply #27 - Jan 4th, 2022 at 1:57pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 1:53pm:
indeed bobby

police dogs should be reserved for the apex gang

not for citizens exercising their democratic rite to protest



Damn right - leave peaceful protestors alone.
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Reply #28 - Jan 4th, 2022 at 2:39pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 1:37pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:42pm:
Are you suggesting a cover-up, or just you being too lazy to check your facts?

We do know exactly what happened because we just saw it all on video from multiple angles.

Can you explain the difference between "guesses based on common sense" and making up lies?



I'm not lazy - the facts cannot be determined
as we would need hospital records.

I haven't made up any lies -
I made assumptions.

What are you assumptions? -
that no injuries resulted?



Are you "assuming" that the facts cannot be determined so you have to make them up instead?
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Reply #29 - Jan 4th, 2022 at 2:41pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 2:39pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 1:37pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2022 at 12:42pm:
Are you suggesting a cover-up, or just you being too lazy to check your facts?

We do know exactly what happened because we just saw it all on video from multiple angles.

Can you explain the difference between "guesses based on common sense" and making up lies?



I'm not lazy - the facts cannot be determined
as we would need hospital records.

I haven't made up any lies -
I made assumptions.

What are you assumptions? -
that no injuries resulted?



Are you "assuming" that the facts cannot be determined so you have to make them up instead?



What did I actually say?

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Do people realise that a dog munching on your hand or arm like that means
you could be crippled for life?


Sounds like a very wise statement to me.
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