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Jan 5^th, 2022 at 9:54am

mothra wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 9:42am:

Wouldn't you also like to see people being proactive with their health, lose weight, stop drinking and smoking?
We've known for 18 months that the obese have very poor covid outcomes.
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Pseudo-science. Based on your own prejudices.
It is far more complicated than that.
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Now that CNN is FINALLY reporting this, I guess it means it's allowed to be discussed in the left wing think silos.

People who are overweight or obese are at a much higher risk of much more severe disease and even death from Covid-19, and one new study suggests that losing weight can reduce that risk

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/03/health/covid-weight-loss-wellness/index.html

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Reply #1 - Jan 5^th, 2022 at 9:57am

I rarely look at Fox News, but this link came up on top of when I searched for the CNN article. Nails it

Critics rip CNN over late tweet linking obesity to serious COVID cases, death: 'Where have you been?'

Despite citing a "new study," the article also referenced studies from August 2020, February 2021 and April 2021 that reported hospitalizations from the coronavirus were "robustly linked to cardiometabolic health" and the body-mass index.

Critics quickly took to social media to slam CNN, with some questioning why it took so long for the liberal network to acknowledge the data that was already widely known.

"A truly shocking development," one critic jokingly wrote, while another thanked the network for finally "catching up."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/critics-rip-cnn-late-tweet-obesity-covid-cases-dea...

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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Obesity and Covid Reply #2 - Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:13am Unʞɔnɟable lardasses better keep their masks on ...
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20434 Gordon Gender:	Re: Obesity and Covid Reply #3 - Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:18am AiA wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:13am: Unʞɔnɟable lardasses better keep their masks on ... Masks do about 3/4 of bugger all, particularly with the Omi. If 18 months ago, all the energy put into masks, lockdowns etc was put into getting fatties to run around the block, death rates would be lower.
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20434 Gordon Gender:	Re: Obesity and Covid Reply #4 - Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:23am Another subject that's probably too volatile for American LW media is why blacks are dying at a disproportionate rate. Blacks in the USA have the highest obesity rates of all ethnic groups.
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Reply #5 - Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:33am

Gordon wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:23am:

Another subject that's probably too volatile for American LW media is why blacks are dying at a disproportionate rate.

Blacks in the USA have the highest obesity rates of all ethnic groups.

True. After a certain age, most every American Black is either diabetic, overweight, have high blood pressure, etc. Of course, they don't have the access to healthcare that Whites do ...

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11134 Gender:	Re: Obesity and Covid Reply #6 - Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:37am It is hardly a surprise that comorbidities greatly increase the likelihood of death from yet another contracted systemic disease.
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Reply #7 - Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:40am

AiA wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:33am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:23am:

Another subject that's probably too volatile for American LW media is why blacks are dying at a disproportionate rate.

Blacks in the USA have the highest obesity rates of all ethnic groups.

True. After a certain age, most every American Black is either diabetic, overweight, have high blood pressure, etc.

Why?

Genes definitely play a role. So does the environment in which people live, socioeconomic status -- and, yes, racism, says Clyde W. Yancy, MD, associate dean of clinical affairs and medical director for heart failure/transplantation at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Obesity and Covid Reply #8 - Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:41am MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:37am: It is hardly a surprise that comorbidities greatly increase the likelihood of death from yet another contracted systemic disease. ✅✅✅
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Re: Obesity and Covid
Reply #9 - Jan 5^th, 2022 at 11:12am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:40am:

AiA wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:33am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:23am:

Another subject that's probably too volatile for American LW media is why blacks are dying at a disproportionate rate.

Blacks in the USA have the highest obesity rates of all ethnic groups.

True. After a certain age, most every American Black is either diabetic, overweight, have high blood pressure, etc.

Why?

Genes definitely play a role. So does the environment in which people live, socioeconomic status -- and, yes, racism, says Clyde W. Yancy, MD, associate dean of clinical affairs and medical director for heart failure/transplantation at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center.

Racism in Africa:

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/9/17/14109...
My belly gives me so much’: Ugandan dancer Moses Kawooya, 59, weighs 243lb and performs for visiting presidents with his ‘magic belly’. His dad and grandfather had the same physique, and it earns him a living.

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Reply #10 - Jan 5^th, 2022 at 12:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:40am:

AiA wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:33am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:23am:

Another subject that's probably too volatile for American LW media is why blacks are dying at a disproportionate rate.

Blacks in the USA have the highest obesity rates of all ethnic groups.

True. After a certain age, most every American Black is either diabetic, overweight, have high blood pressure, etc.

Why?

Genes definitely play a role. So does the environment in which people live, socioeconomic status -- and, yes, racism, says Clyde W. Yancy, MD, associate dean of clinical affairs and medical director for heart failure/transplantation at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center.

Trump is making them fat.

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Re: Obesity and Covid
Reply #11 - Jan 5^th, 2022 at 12:21pm

freediver wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 12:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:40am:

AiA wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:33am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:23am:

Another subject that's probably too volatile for American LW media is why blacks are dying at a disproportionate rate.

Blacks in the USA have the highest obesity rates of all ethnic groups.

True. After a certain age, most every American Black is either diabetic, overweight, have high blood pressure, etc.

Why?

Genes definitely play a role. So does the environment in which people live, socioeconomic status -- and, yes, racism, says Clyde W. Yancy, MD, associate dean of clinical affairs and medical director for heart failure/transplantation at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center.

Trump is making them fat.

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Reply #12 - Jan 5^th, 2022 at 12:22pm

freediver wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 12:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:40am:

AiA wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:33am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:23am:

Another subject that's probably too volatile for American LW media is why blacks are dying at a disproportionate rate.

Blacks in the USA have the highest obesity rates of all ethnic groups.

True. After a certain age, most every American Black is either diabetic, overweight, have high blood pressure, etc.

Why?

Genes definitely play a role. So does the environment in which people live, socioeconomic status -- and, yes, racism, says Clyde W. Yancy, MD, associate dean of clinical affairs and medical director for heart failure/transplantation at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center.

Trump is making them fat.

I wonder why Mothra thinks this study from Stanford University is pseudo-science?
Are Sanford whores?

COVID-19 may hide in fat cells, increasing the risk of severe disease and long COVID among overweight and obese patients

https://fortune.com/2021/12/09/covid-infects-fat-cells-long-severe-illness-overw
eight-obese/

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Re: Obesity and Covid
Reply #13 - Jan 5^th, 2022 at 12:32pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 9:54am:

mothra wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 9:42am:

Wouldn't you also like to see people being proactive with their health, lose weight, stop drinking and smoking?
We've known for 18 months that the obese have very poor covid outcomes.

Pseudo-science. Based on your own prejudices.
It is far more complicated than that.
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Now that CNN is FINALLY reporting this, I guess it means it's allowed to be discussed in the left wing think silos.

People who are overweight or obese are at a much higher risk of much more severe disease and even death from Covid-19, and one new study suggests that losing weight can reduce that risk

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/03/health/covid-weight-loss-wellness/index.html
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People who are overweight or obese are at a much higher risk of much more severe disease and even death from Covid-19, and one new study suggests that losing weight can reduce that risk

Yes by about 10% of the vaccine's effectiveness and does not take 15 months to achieve.

A good idea for anyone overweight to do something about it however its not an effective strategy for covid in the short term.

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Mattyfisk Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 94351 Gender:	Re: Obesity and Covid Reply #14 - Jan 5^th, 2022 at 12:56pm "Evolutionary blowtorch", innit. It took out the hommers during the AIDS pandemic, now it's taking out the chodes, those with dicks wider than long. Nothing to worry about, it happens all the time. 14/ A significant % of people thoroughly enjoy being subjugated. You?
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