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Re: Obesity and Covid
Reply #15 - Jan 5^th, 2022 at 12:57pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 12:32pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 9:54am:

mothra wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 9:42am:

Wouldn't you also like to see people being proactive with their health, lose weight, stop drinking and smoking?
We've known for 18 months that the obese have very poor covid outcomes.

Pseudo-science. Based on your own prejudices.
It is far more complicated than that.

15/ 'The Science' has evolved into a secular pseudo-religion for millions of people in the West. This religion has little to do with science itself.

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Reply #17 - Jan 5^th, 2022 at 3:01pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:41am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:37am:

It is hardly a surprise that comorbidities greatly increase the likelihood of death from yet another contracted systemic disease.

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Yes, this has been well known for decades.
The benefits of a healthy lifestyle has been promoted by various governments for generations.

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Reply #18 - Jan 5^th, 2022 at 4:33pm

freediver wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 12:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:40am:

AiA wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:33am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:23am:

Another subject that's probably too volatile for American LW media is why blacks are dying at a disproportionate rate.

Blacks in the USA have the highest obesity rates of all ethnic groups.

True. After a certain age, most every American Black is either diabetic, overweight, have high blood pressure, etc.

Why?

Genes definitely play a role. So does the environment in which people live, socioeconomic status -- and, yes, racism, says Clyde W. Yancy, MD, associate dean of clinical affairs and medical director for heart failure/transplantation at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center.

Trump is making them fat.

Yes! Of course he is !!!

LOL!!!!

How come greggery didn't see that ? Tongue

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Reply #19 - Jan 5^th, 2022 at 5:35pm

AiA wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:33am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:23am:

Another subject that's probably too volatile for American LW media is why blacks are dying at a disproportionate rate.

Blacks in the USA have the highest obesity rates of all ethnic groups.

True. After a certain age, most every American Black is either diabetic, overweight, have high blood pressure, etc. Of course, they don't have the access to healthcare that Whites do ...

I did not realise that

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Reply #20 - Jan 5^th, 2022 at 5:40pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 9:54am:

mothra wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 9:42am:

Wouldn't you also like to see people being proactive with their health, lose weight, stop drinking and smoking?
We've known for 18 months that the obese have very poor covid outcomes.

Pseudo-science. Based on your own prejudices.
It is far more complicated than that.
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Now that CNN is FINALLY reporting this, I guess it means it's allowed to be discussed in the left wing think silos.

People who are overweight or obese are at a much higher risk of much more severe disease and even death from Covid-19, and one new study suggests that losing weight can reduce that risk

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/03/health/covid-weight-loss-wellness/index.html
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Just like the aged ... no matter what their BMI.

Do you wish death on your elderly relatives because of their physical condition?

All those promoting this point of view are selfish, self centered twerps.

Even the fittest could fall victim to this virus.

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Reply #21 - Jan 5^th, 2022 at 5:43pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:18am:

AiA wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:13am:

Unʞɔnɟable lardasses better keep their masks on ...

Masks do about 3/4 of bugger all, particularly with the Omi.

If 18 months ago, all the energy put into masks, lockdowns etc was put into getting fatties to run around the block, death rates would be lower.

Not one to accuse others here of having socks....

but this tripe is what I'd expect of Aquascoot.

Blaming fat people for Covid stats?

Any excuse for the fit mofos that have died because of it?

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Reply #22 - Jan 5^th, 2022 at 7:16pm

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CDC study finds about 78% of people hospitalized for Covid were overweight or obese

MAR 8 2021

About 78% of people who have been hospitalized, needed a ventilator or died from Covid-19 have been overweight or obese, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said in a new study Monday.

Just over 42% of the U.S. population was considered obese in 2018, according to the agency’s most recent statistics. Overweight is defined as having a body mass index of 25 or more, while obesity is defined as having a BMI of 30 or more.

The agency found the risk for hospitalizations, ICU admissions and deaths was lowest among individuals with BMIs under 25.

The CDC has previously noted that having obesity increases the risk of severe illness, including hospitalizations. Obesity is linked to impaired immune function and decreased lung capacity that can make ventilation more difficult, the agency has said.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-peopl...

More here- https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/obesity-and-covid-19.html

We could look at how much weight Rebel Wilson has lost in the last 18 months and compare that to the never ending excuses from the fatties on why they can't improve their health.

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Re: Obesity and Covid
Reply #23 - Jan 5^th, 2022 at 7:27pm

Gnads wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 5:43pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:18am:

AiA wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 10:13am:

Unʞɔnɟable lardasses better keep their masks on ...

Masks do about 3/4 of bugger all, particularly with the Omi.

If 18 months ago, all the energy put into masks, lockdowns etc was put into getting fatties to run around the block, death rates would be lower.

Not one to accuse others here of having socks....

but this tripe is what I'd expect of Aquascoot.

Blaming fat people for Covid stats?

Any excuse for the fit mofos that have died because of it?

It's science.

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