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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: Prince Andrew Reply #30 - Jan 8^th, 2022 at 3:57pm I haven't been following this soapy but wasn't this woman a prostitute, randy Andy wouldn't be the first Royal to visit a pro.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59372 Here Gender:	Re: Prince Andrew Reply #31 - Jan 8^th, 2022 at 6:43pm Johnnie wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 3:57pm: I haven't been following this soapy but wasn't this woman a prostitute, randy Andy wouldn't be the first Royal to visit a pro. Yes you haven't been following the story.
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Reply #32 - Jan 9^th, 2022 at 7:50am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 6:43pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 3:57pm:

I haven't been following this soapy but wasn't this woman a prostitute, randy Andy wouldn't be the first Royal to visit a pro.

Yes you haven't been following the story.

So much of British Royal boudoir history has been told in a number of tomes including <https://www.thedailybeast.com/oral-history-the-sex-lives-of-the-kings-and-queens-of-england>. However even here His Royal Highness’s escapade as a teenager in the change rooms of the Bondi Surf Life Saving club with three ‘members’ isn’t detailed. Won’t be unless relevant ASIO files ( if they still exist) are released.

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Reply #33 - Jan 11^th, 2022 at 9:05am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 8:34pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 8:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 8:21pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 8:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 7:31pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 5^th, 2022 at 7:27pm:

Can't find a thread so I'll start this one.

If his complainant wants to void her settlement agreement with Epstein, if I were the Judge, I'd be staying her action until she returned the US half million.

I haven't read anything on Phillip,so tI have no idea if the answer is out there or not but I'll ask anyway. Isn't her agreement with Epstein? Why then should Phillip be protected by it? he wasn't part of the settlement

Phillip is dead you Nong!

It's Andrew that's in deep sh1t!

my mistake .. Andrew.

What makes you think any of them are any different.

A 27 year old Charles was at Dianna's home when she was 15.

Who knows what really went on?

Diana is no longer around 🥺

I will say this : she deserved so much better than that old ugly philandering POS she married.

You're thinking of her father in law. Grin

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38863 Gender:	Re: Prince Andrew Reply #34 - Jan 13^th, 2022 at 10:22am So, the Judge has allowed the case to proceed but I am not sure what he meant when he found that it was 'too soon' to decide if the Indemnity Agreement is enforceable. Weird.
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Reply #35 - Jan 13^th, 2022 at 7:14pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 13^th, 2022 at 10:22am:

So, the Judge has allowed the case to proceed but I am not sure what he meant when he found that it was 'too soon' to decide if the Indemnity Agreement is enforceable.

Weird.

It probably means nothing, he won't be in court and he didn't rape this gold digging prostitute but Andy is prepared to give up one of his Chateau's to finish this saga.

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Reply #36 - Jan 13^th, 2022 at 9:14pm

Something seems odd here. The woman making the allegations has already settled out of court, and by her own statement she was 17 at the time of the alleged sexual encounter. While the sleaze factor of a middle aged man having sex with a 17 year old is undeniable, the age of consent is 16, so the woman was legally capable of giving informed consent.

What is the allegation actually about?

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Reply #37 - Jan 13^th, 2022 at 9:32pm

Belgarion wrote on Jan 13^th, 2022 at 9:14pm:

Something seems odd here. The woman making the allegations has already settled out of court, and by her own statement she was 17 at the time of the alleged sexual encounter. While the sleaze factor of a middle aged man having sex with a 17 year old is undeniable, the age of consent is 16, so the woman was legally capable of giving informed consent.

What is the allegation actually about?

I think it is because it is 18 in NY. I don;t understand how this applies to an act in the UK.

However this is what I have read.

New York State's Child Victims Act was signed into law by Governor Andrew Cuomo in 2019.

It allowed survivors of childhood sexual abuse to file a case which had already been time-barred or expired, and gave them a year to do so.

That one-year window was then extended because of disruption to court services during the pandemic and ends this week, on 14 August.

Mr Cuomo called it a "pathway to justice" for people who allege they were abused when under-age and was intended to help "right wrongs that went unacknowledged and unpunished".

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58153711

Aussie maybe able to provide insight into the logic here.

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Reply #38 - Jan 13^th, 2022 at 9:42pm

There's no need for Aussie to do that.

You simply needed to continue posting the rest of your article. It explained quite a number of issues quite clearly.

Ms Giuffre's legal action is a civil case filed by a private party for monetary damages, as opposed to a criminal case filed by the state.

Arick Fudali, a partner at New York legal firm Bloom, which has represented nine of Epstein's victims, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that "very few" of such cases ended up going to trial but there was a "small chance" this could.

The alternatives are that it is settled beforehand, it is struck out by a judge, or the complainant ceases the action.

Melissa Murray, professor of law at New York University, said Prince Andrew "could be on the hook for significant money damages".

"This is not about whether or not Prince Andrew will go to jail - he has no criminal exposure from this particular case," she told the BBC.

Asked how likely it was that the case would to go to trial, she said Prince Andrew's team would probably be more worried that it comes at a "really unfortunate time", as Ms Maxwell is due to stand trial in November.

She has pleaded not guilty to federal charges that she conspired with Epstein in the abuse of four under-age girls.

Prof Murray said: "With this civil suit pending and her about to go to trial on these criminal charges, there may be even more pressure - and indeed temptation - for her to co-operate with federal prosecutors and perhaps provide more information about all of the individuals who were in the orbit of Jeffrey Epstein and that could, allegedly, include the prince himself."

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Super Nova Gold Member Offline Posts: 3076 Everywhere Gender:	Re: Prince Andrew Reply #39 - Jan 13^th, 2022 at 9:49pm Andrew's reputation is ruined no matter what happens.
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Reply #40 - Jan 13^th, 2022 at 9:52pm

Super Nova wrote on Jan 13^th, 2022 at 9:32pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jan 13^th, 2022 at 9:14pm:

Something seems odd here. The woman making the allegations has already settled out of court, and by her own statement she was 17 at the time of the alleged sexual encounter. While the sleaze factor of a middle aged man having sex with a 17 year old is undeniable, the age of consent is 16, so the woman was legally capable of giving informed consent.

What is the allegation actually about?

I think it is because it is 18 in NY. I don;t understand how this applies to an act in the UK.

However this is what I have read.

New York State's Child Victims Act was signed into law by Governor Andrew Cuomo in 2019.

It allowed survivors of childhood sexual abuse to file a case which had already been time-barred or expired, and gave them a year to do so.

That one-year window was then extended because of disruption to court services during the pandemic and ends this week, on 14 August.

Mr Cuomo called it a "pathway to justice" for people who allege they were abused when under-age and was intended to help "right wrongs that went unacknowledged and unpunished".

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58153711

Aussie maybe able to provide insight into the logic here.

That doesn't sound right or he would be up for a very serious crime, not for just being with a pro.

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Reply #41 - Jan 13^th, 2022 at 9:55pm

Belgarion wrote on Jan 13^th, 2022 at 9:14pm:

Something seems odd here. The woman making the allegations has already settled out of court, and by her own statement she was 17 at the time of the alleged sexual encounter. While the sleaze factor of a middle aged man having sex with a 17 year old is undeniable, the age of consent is 16, so the woman was legally capable of giving informed consent.

What is the allegation actually about?

The age of consent is 17 in New York and 18 in Florida.

They don't have the loser pays the winners legal fees in the US so civil suits are used to shake down wealthy people.

Many settle before going to court with offers from $20-50K it's cheaper than paying lawyers to defend it.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Prince Andrew Reply #42 - Jan 13^th, 2022 at 9:56pm Super Nova wrote on Jan 13^th, 2022 at 9:49pm: Andrew's reputation is ruined no matter what happens. Exactly. And by nexus ...the Royal Family's reputation is ruined too. Which brings us to that Republic topic ...
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40774 Gender:	Re: Prince Andrew Reply #43 - Jan 13^th, 2022 at 10:01pm Super Nova wrote on Jan 13^th, 2022 at 9:49pm: Andrew's reputation is ruined no matter what happens. yes, and so it should be.
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Prince Andrew Reply #44 - Jan 13^th, 2022 at 10:08pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 13^th, 2022 at 10:01pm: Super Nova wrote on Jan 13^th, 2022 at 9:49pm: Andrew's reputation is ruined no matter what happens. yes, and so it should be. Yep. Agreed. https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/virginia-giuffre-all...
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