MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 1:09pm:


Yes, unlike individual sovereignty ideologues who devolve into squabbling, grid-locked rabbles in democracies, the Chinese people are happy to co-operation with all other non-ideology based peoples. 

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The Qing empire is too recent in Chinese history for China to contemplate the permanent loss of Qing territory which occurred at the hands of Westeners in the "century of humiliation".   And  rising living standards in Tibet will cement re-establishment of Chinese sovereignty, accepted by the majority. As for the Dalai Lama:

https://www.mfa.gov.cn/ce/cebel//eng/zt/zgxz/t265177.htm

"The Dalai Lama has, in recent years, been telling the world he has stopped seeking "Tibetan independence" and turned towards a "middle way".

By this, he says, he means "high-level autonomy" or "real autonomy" in Tibet and other Tibetan-inhabited areas within the framework of the Chinese Constitution. Only by doing so, he has argued, can Tibet best protect its unique traditional culture, religion and eco-environment, and can the unification and unity of China be maintained. (On March 10, 1959, the reactionary upper class in Tibet staged a counter-revolutionary armed rebellion. When it was suppressed, the Dalai Lama and his men fled to India, where he made March 10 as a remembrance "Resurrection Day".)

On March 10, 2006, he followed his usual practice of delivering a speech, in which he said: "Making the Tibetan race become the real masters of their own fate and enjoy real autonomy constitutes my only wish. And this wish could be materialized as the PRC Constitution contains special stipulations for this."

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 1:45pm:

Are they?

Again, you seem to think you can speak for all Chinese.

Or have you been indoctrinated?

freediver wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 1:51pm:

It makes you wonder what the modern Chinese greeting to foreigners might be to determine if they are non-ideology based.

freediver wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 1:49pm:


But the fact remains.

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I simply draw the comparison between the hide-bound ideology - a mishmash of backward religious ideology and adversarial 'democratic'  politics in India, with a forward looking socialist China which has increased its per capita wealth 5 times as much as India in the last 4 decades.

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Of course.

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In a poverty ravaged nation, yes.

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It does to mainstream flat-earth economic ideologues... as if Oz needs to continually grow its population to achieve rising living standards.

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Agreed, so you will be able  to understand the basic tenet of MMT, namely,   the nation's constraint is resources, not money...which is always created out of thin air whether debt free by the government  (as should be the case) or by private bankers who reserve the privilege for themselves, as in the current classical-economics-based monetary system.

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There sure is, as I have drawn your attention to above.

But unrestrained population growth in a huge subsistence  population isn't one of them, if you want to lift the population out of poverty.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 2:27pm:


China has reached developed nation status; Chinese women won't allow a reversion to loss of their own control of family planning/pregnancy, unlike their unfortunate sisters in rural India...

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 2:39pm:


All Chinese women are now in a position, like all Oz women, to decide their own  number of pregnancies, unlike their sisters in poverty-stricken, rural India. 


Hint: women want their own lives today, above being  baby machines. 

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Conditions associated  with absolute poverty are not derogatory, just fact.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 2:46pm:

Were you born in China? I guess you're not posting from China as that would be illegal, unless you've had approval from the CCP.

Racism in China is rampant, and so common that locals aren't even aware that they're racist.

Like the general dislike for black people.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 31^st, 2022 at 2:55pm:


Irrelevant to facts re population control in nations blighted by absolute poverty, infanticide, and lifting living standards.

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Ozy ozy ozy, oi oi oi there's plenty of racism to go around...

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..plenty of that to go around , too....