Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 3:05pm:


Hey Greatdivide (posting from China) :

This link doesn't support the pro CCP propaganda you're pushing.

However, “a decent home for all” remains a distant reality in China, owing to the multi-dimensional inequalities behind the overall high rate of homeownership (Huang & Li, 2014; Wang & Murie, 2000).

Millions of urban poor, young adults, and rural-urban migrants continue to be denied basic housing, and homeownership remains an unachievable dream.

Many have to live in boxy rooms in crumble shacks, low-rises in dusty suburban villages, and tiny dark dorms in bomb shelters and basements under glossy apartment buildings (He et al., 2017; Huang & Yi, 2015; Ma & Xiang, 1998; Wang et al., 2010; Wu, 2002).

Reminiscence of worker insects in a colony and mice in underground cellars, they are called “ant tribe” (yizu) and “mouse tribe” (shuzu), respectively. In particular, younger generations, who grow up in the reform era and do not have access to housing subsidies, face tremendous challenges to attain decent housing and achieve homeownership especially in large cities where housing has becomes prohibitively unaffordable.

Intergenerational transfer has become indispensable for the lucky few young adults to achieve homeownership (Li & Yi, 2007a). Furthermore, with the persistence of the hukou (household registration) System, millions of migrants continue to be denied access to subsidized housing in most cities. Thus despite massive development of affordable housing by the government in recent years, migrants still have to resort to informal housing at marginalized locations, forming slum like settlements (Huang & Yi, 2015).

Many cities even require local household registration for households to purchase housing or set strict housing purchase limit for migrants, which prevents better-off migrants to become homeowners (Jia et al., 2018).

A great many of them thus have to gamble all their savings on extra-legal housing built on the collective land, known as small property right housing (He et al., 2019).

For these disadvantaged groups, homeownership and even a decent rental home are beyond their reach.



Ok. Anyone know where Freediver is?

Might need to let him know about this topic I reckon.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 3:14pm:


Have a read of his posts. He's a paid cyber troll. He is being monitored and watched.

I've let him think he's posting something worth reading. He's only copying and pasting slabs of Wiki and re posting them across 4 topics in various sub forums on OzPol.

He's also unable to answer specific questions which cut at the core of CCP abuse of human rights. I've tried to put pro democracy student protests and the treatment of Muslims in China. All I'm getting is deafening silence. And I've tried asking him many times over a 7 day period across 4 topics.

His knowledge of Australian high school and university curricula is lacking. I've caught him out a few times wrt economics and politics taught at those levels.

Oh dear 😐

The Ministry of Culture of the People's Republic of China now holds regular training sessions, where participants are required to pass an exam after which they are issued a job certification.[19] As of 2008, the total number of 50-cent operatives was estimated to be in the tens of thousands,[1] and possibly as high as 280,000–300,000.[19][32] Every large Chinese website is instructed by the Information Office to create a trained team of Internet commentators.[19]

According to the Chinese Communists' opinions of the recruitment of university Work Committee (tentative), the university Internet commentators are mainly selected from cadres or student cadres at the local CCP Publicity Department of universities, Youth League, Office of Academic Affairs, Network Center, Admissions Employment Department, Political Theory Department, Teaching Department and other units.[33]

The court of Qinghe District, Huai'an organized a team of 12 commentators.[34] Gansu Province hired 650 commentators, sorted by their writing abilities.[35] Suqian Municipal Publicity Department's first 26 commentators' team were reported by Yangtse Evening Post in April 2005.[36] According to high-profile independent Chinese blogger Li Ming, the pro-Chinese government web commentators must number "at least in the tens of thousands".[37]

A 2016 Harvard study estimated that the group posts about 488 million social media comments per year.[38]

According to an article published by Xiao Qiang on his website China Digital Times, a leaked propaganda directive, sent to 50 Cent Party Internet commentators, stated their objective was the following:[39][40]

In order to circumscribe the influence of Taiwanese democracy, in order to progress further in the work of guiding public opinion, and in accordance with the requirements established by higher authorities to "be strategic, be skilled," we hope that internet commentators conscientiously study the mindset of netizens, grasp international developments, and better perform the work of being an internet commentator.

For this purpose, this notice is promulgated as set forth below:

(1) To the extent possible make America the target of criticism. Play down the existence of Taiwan.
(2) Do not directly confront [the idea of] democracy; rather, frame the argument in terms of "what kind of system can truly implement democracy.”
(3) To the extent possible, choose various examples in Western countries of violence and unreasonable circumstances to explain how democracy is not well-suited to capitalism.
(4) Use America's and other countries' interference in international affairs to explain how Western democracy is actually an invasion of other countries and [how the West] is forcibly pushing [on other countries] Western values.
(5) Use the bloody and tear-stained history of a [once] weak people [i.e., China] to stir up pro-Party and patriotic emotions.
(6) Increase the exposure that positive developments inside China receive; further accommodate the work of maintaining [social] stability.[39][40]

Damn!

Greatdivide has suddenly logged off 😂🤣😆

This is what usually happens after I expose these @rseholes.

In my Facebook group I co admin with 2 others...we had the same shyte happen there. These trolls are employed and paid by the CCP and talk utter nonsense (because it's obvious transparent propaganda).

What always gets them stumped is the question of student protests and human rights. Ask them the specific question re Tiananmen Square example : what do you think/believe happened on 4 June 1989 in Tiananmen Square?

They will not be able to answer you (CCP are watching them and read their posts for quantity and quality)

OR

They will state that nothing really happened on that day in China.

Either way ... you've sprung them. I've done that a few times on Facebook as I've stated before.

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 3:41pm:


Had to go shopping, and also read your long quoted article, to which I have now replied (unlike your usual style of ignoring the debate).

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Not with me: I'll easily demolish any manifestation of your 'survival of the fittest'  dystopia.

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Facebook...lost $20 billion last week; I never use it.

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Short term memory loss? I already addressed that issue yesterday.   And you wouldn't know "human rights" if you tripped over them. 

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Wrong on both counts. It's long past like the US national guard murdering 6 uni students during the Vietnam war protests.  Today Chinese citizens record >90% satisfaction with the central government, and increasing revulsion with the Western democracies.

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You aren't capable of "springing" anything on me.

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 3:28pm:


A very necessary task, though probably doomed to fail, because some evil "freedom-loving" sovereign individual ideologues in Taiwan would rather initiate WW3 than examine their own deluded ideology, despite the fact they were still claiming to be the sole government of China until recently.

[The best bet for China is to continue its amazing rate of development until such time it can tell the Pentagon where to go....]


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As I said.. very necessary work, as part of re-educating  evil deluded "freedom loving" sovereign individual ideologues only interested in looking after  their own sorry arses ...since there is "no such thing as society"... (I wonder if that silly bitch is in hell,  where she belongs...)   

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Mostly all sensible propositions.

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Try reading what I actually post. If you do not understand it, ask what I mean instead of picking a random response from your CCP pamphlet. Here it is again: And yet China still call's itself a third world country when it comes to the free ride it is getting on intellectual property rights.