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Reply #286 - Feb 13^th, 2022 at 2:39pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 2:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 2:17pm:

Hi FD,
your forum has become infested with traitorous, communist sympathisers.
Do you think you can out argue them?

Can you name another " traitorous, communist sympathiser" other than myself?

That's easy. Athos and sunny. You guys stick out like a sore thumb. You don't even appear to realise. You have drunk so much CCP gatorade you might as well be an alien.

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 2:15pm:

Are you still trying to figure out how to post?

No, the page doesn't come up in sequence (on this thread only....).

Anyway have a shot at debating my reply to your post, namely:

The current covid death toll in "the Land of the Free" is now over 900,000, exceeding that of the spanish flu.... and the current stand-off on the Canadian border, and violent covid protests all around the 'sovereign individual' Western world, and disagreement with authorities who are inclined to follow mainstream medical advice, reveals how unstable all the 'viking' sovereign individual' nations are, regardless of historical origins.

Are you talking about the death toll from the Chinese virus?

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Reply #287 - Feb 13^th, 2022 at 3:03pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 2:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 2:17pm:

Hi FD,
your forum has become infested with traitorous, communist sympathisers.
Do you think you can out argue them?

Can you name another " traitorous, communist sympathiser" other than myself?

Victor, Athos, Bbwian, puddle duck, Musta Faken.

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Reply #288 - Feb 13^th, 2022 at 3:14pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 1:50pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 10:58am:

Victor Sunny wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 10:55am:

https://youtu.be/o34cBDmSuiI

I read on another thread that you are from a rural Chinese culture, so you (or you extended family) would have experienced mistreatment or negative bias at the hands of the CCP.

And yet he is voicing support for the CCP and its policies.

Of course he is. He needs permission from the CCP to post to this site.

We all know what would happen to him and his family if he posts anti CCP statements.

In China rural people are second class citizens.

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Reply #289 - Feb 13^th, 2022 at 3:30pm

freediver wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 2:39pm:

Are you talking about the death toll from the Chinese virus?

The virus that is presumed to have originated in a Wuhan wet market? Yes.

Death toll in the US: >900,000.

In China, c.5,000.

Meanwhile the division in the deluded 'sovereign individual' West is reaching breaking point....

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Reply #290 - Feb 13^th, 2022 at 3:40pm

Frank wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 3:03pm:

Victor, Athos, Bbwian, puddle duck, Musta Faken.

Victor isn't traitorous, he lives in China.

Athos...he's Libertarian (from the 'viking' posting);

puddle duck?

Musta is Libertarian, I think.

Brian is certainly mainstream Ozzy Left, most definitely of the "China threat" persuasion.

So I reckon I'm the only actual "traitor" here, according to your delusional, ultimately instinctive and irrational, sovereign individual ideology.

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Reply #291 - Feb 13^th, 2022 at 3:41pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 3:30pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 2:39pm:

Are you talking about the death toll from the Chinese virus?

The virus that is presumed to have originated in a Wuhan wet market? Yes.

Death toll in the US: >900,000.

In China, c.5,000.

Meanwhile the division in the deluded 'sovereign individual' West is reaching breaking point....

So the CCP is winning now because it is killing Americans rather than its own citizens?

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In China, c.5,000.

Another good example of why the CCP doesn't want its own citizens knowing the truth about the Great Chinese Famine. They are doing it again. You just finished explaining to us how there is no point letting the Chinese people know the truth about the famine, yet you expect us to believe this BS?

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/millions-dead-from-coronavirus-i
n-china-separating-fact-from-fiction--c-978217

But the true extent of the country’s infection and death toll remains unknown.

“President Xi Jinping told his party officials that this is a peoples’ war against COVID-19, and they would fail if cases rose in their local areas,” Shoebridge said.

“He sacked the Hubei party leadership as cases in the province continued to rise.

“After that, the number of reported cases in China magically took a radical drop.

The burden of proof, Shoebridge says, now lies with the Chinese authorities, to explain to the world how the country where the pandemic began became the lucky country in the per capita toll COVID-19 has taken on its citizens.

Basically, the CCP is again killing large numbers of it's own citizens with propaganda and self delusion. How many Chinese citizens do you think died because the party machine under-reported how bad the situation is, leading to an inadequate response from Beijing (which was also a cause of the Great Chinese Famine).

Do you think that once again, the rural poor are suffering the most from the CCP's brutal indifference and manipulation?

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Reply #292 - Feb 13^th, 2022 at 3:43pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 3:30pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 2:39pm:

Are you talking about the death toll from the Chinese virus?

The virus that is presumed to have originated in a Wuhan wet market? Yes.

Death toll in the US: >900,000.

In China, c.5,000.

Meanwhile the division in the deluded 'sovereign individual' West is reaching breaking point....

1.4 billion and only 5000 deaths!

There’d be 5000 deaths a month from food poisoning alone in China.

The cover up of deaths is so laughable, no where in the world bothers with them, but estimates the true figure is in the millions.

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Reply #293 - Feb 13^th, 2022 at 3:53pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 3:14pm:

Of course he is. He needs permission from the CCP to post to this site.
We all know what would happen to him and his family if he posts anti CCP statements.

Why would a Chinese person need to come here to post anti CCP propaganda? The entire ideologically blind Western media is performing that task quite well already....

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In China rural people are second class citizens.

You haven't watched his video (featuring a US guy interviewing a Chinese woman; the eradication of absolute poverty last year was achieved by building telecoms and road infrastructure to the most remote villages in the country, and personal intervention by public officials of every last family, to ensure they can engage in a productive income (none of the welfare cop-out nonsense of the West's neoliberal economies).

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Reply #294 - Feb 13^th, 2022 at 4:15pm

freediver wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 3:41pm:

So the CCP is winning now because it is killing Americans rather than its own citizens?

No: the CCP is winning because it is saving it own citizens, while the US mal-administration is killing US citizens.

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Another good example of why the CCP doesn't want its own citizens knowing the truth about the Great Chinese Famine. They are doing it again. You just finished explaining to us how there is no point letting the Chinese people know the truth about the famine, yet you expect us to believe this BS?

"Just finished explaining" ....what? The mistakes of the pre 1980's are long past. Now whether you believe current stats is up to you.

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https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/millions-dead-from-coronavirus-i
n-china-separating-fact-from-fiction--c-978217

But the true extent of the country’s infection and death toll remains unknown.

“President Xi Jinping told his party officials that this is a peoples’ war against COVID-19, and they would fail if cases rose in their local areas,” Shoebridge said.

“He sacked the Hubei party leadership as cases in the province continued to rise.

“After that, the number of reported cases in China magically took a radical drop.

The burden of proof, Shoebridge says, now lies with the Chinese authorities, to explain to the world how the country where the pandemic began became the lucky country in the per capita toll COVID-19 has taken on its citizens.

"Fewer still would be aware it was founded and is run by a group of Chinese Americans associated with the Falun Gong spiritual movement, which the Communist Party of China has outlawed".

See the problem? These 'sovereign individual' ideologue traitors, like Falun Gong, are behind this nonsense.

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Basically, the CCP is again killing large numbers of it's own citizens with propaganda and self delusion. How many Chinese citizens do you think died because the party machine under-reported how bad the situation is, leading to an inadequate response from Beijing (which was also a cause of the Great Chinese Famine).

Certainly this much is certain: crooked Western media supporting its sovereign individual delusion will be the last source to look for the truth about China.

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Do you think that once again, the rural poor are suffering the most from the CCP's brutal indifference and manipulation?

No. Victor's video has it straight from a chinese citizen.

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Reply #297 - Feb 13^th, 2022 at 4:19pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 3:43pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 3:30pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 2:39pm:

Are you talking about the death toll from the Chinese virus?

The virus that is presumed to have originated in a Wuhan wet market? Yes.

Death toll in the US: >900,000.

In China, c.5,000.

Meanwhile the division in the deluded 'sovereign individual' West is reaching breaking point....

1.4 billion and only 5000 deaths!

There’d be 5000 deaths a month from food poisoning alone in China.

The cover up of deaths is so laughable, no where in the world bothers with them, but estimates the true figure is in the millions.

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Reply #299 - Feb 13^th, 2022 at 4:25pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 3:43pm:

1.4 billion and only 5000 deaths!

Yes that's what you can achieve when you lock-down the economy at the first sign of an outbreak.

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There’d be 5000 deaths a month from food poisoning alone in China.

a big number because of the big population, but not covid deaths....

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The cover up of deaths is so laughable, no where in the world bothers with them, but estimates the true figure is in the millions.

Whatever, the breakdown of authority in the democracies with the anti vaxxers etc appears close at hand...

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