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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20530 Gordon Gender:	Whoopie Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 9:27am DO NOT FIRE HER Leave her there so we know what the bobbleheads actually think. Insiders claim Whoopi Goldberg should be fired after Holocaust comments and her apology is not enough https://celebrity.nine.com.au/latest/whoopi-goldberg-holocaust-claims-abc-inside...
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Valkie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16138 Central Coast Gender:	Re: Whoopie Reply #1 - Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 10:06am Of course her comments are life altering. No apology will ever sate the vicious appetite of the politically correct virtue signallers.
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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12160 Gender:	Re: Whoopie Reply #2 - Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:13am Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race. Its subjective nature. What does someone mean when they discuss race? Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did.
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35323 Gender:	Re: Whoopie Reply #3 - Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:30am "Insiders claim". Just lol. Gordy, once again falling over himself to swing his relentless bat brings us only the best of possible sources.
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Reply #4 - Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:31am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:13am:

Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race.

Its subjective nature.

What does someone mean when they discuss race?

Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did.

You've missed the point. Whether Judaism is a race or not can be argued infinitely, but the fact is the Nazis regarded them to be a race and made all kinds of tests and enlisted science to backup their belief that it was.

So the holocaust was about race, or the Nazis perception of...

Don't cancel her, she and The View are a useful window into the brains of Bobblehead central.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35323 Gender:	Re: Whoopie Reply #5 - Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:32am Valkie wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 10:06am: Of course her comments are life altering. No apology will ever sate the vicious appetite of the politically correct virtue signallers. You've swung Valkiw though, Gordy. You've got to be happy with that.
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Reply #6 - Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:35am

Gordon wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:31am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:13am:

Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race.

Its subjective nature.

What does someone mean when they discuss race?

Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did.

You've missed the point. Whether Judaism is a race or not can be argued infinitely, but the fact is the Nazis regarded them to be a race and made all kinds of tests and enlisted science to backup their belief that it was.

So the holocaust was about race, or the Nazis perception of...

Don't cancel her, she and The View are a useful window into the brains of Bobblehead central.

That was my point.

The terms: race and racism come with significant subjective baggage and sometimes that baggage is so great, it warps the terms to the point that the subjective definition must be subsumed into them without any further debate.

Islamic / Muslim also warp the terms.

Of course don't cancel her; she wasn't trying to trivialise or deny the significance of the Holocaust.

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Reply #7 - Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:38am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:13am:

Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race.

Its subjective nature.

What does someone mean when they discuss race?

Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did.

I think this sums it up perfectly.

It's like how all the Islamophobes on here deny that Islam is a race, therefore they are not racist. As though their comments on every other demographic don't give them away in any event.

I prefer to apply the term 'bigot'.

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Reply #8 - Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:38am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:35am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:31am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:13am:

Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race.

Its subjective nature.

What does someone mean when they discuss race?

Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did.

You've missed the point. Whether Judaism is a race or not can be argued infinitely, but the fact is the Nazis regarded them to be a race and made all kinds of tests and enlisted science to backup their belief that it was.

So the holocaust was about race, or the Nazis perception of...

Don't cancel her, she and The View are a useful window into the brains of Bobblehead central.

That was my point.

The terms race and racism come with significant subjective baggage and sometimes that baggage is so great, it warps the terms to the point that the subjective definition must be subsumed into them.

Islamic / Muslim also warp the terms.

Of course don't cancel her; she wasn't trying to trivialise or deny the significance of the Holocaust.

I don't think she was trivialising it, and I don't believe she's antisemitic above the level that left are turning towards antisemitism, but she is a total idiot, and it looks like the left are after her scalp.

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Reply #9 - Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:40am

mothra wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:38am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:13am:

Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race.

Its subjective nature.

What does someone mean when they discuss race?

Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did.

I think this sums it up perfectly.

It's like how all the Islamophobes on here deny that Islam is a race, therefore they are not racist. As though their comments on every other demographic don't give them away in any event.

I prefer to apply the term 'bigot'.

Are bogans in the airport on their way to Bali a race?

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35323 Gender:	Re: Whoopie Reply #10 - Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:40am Gordon wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:31am: Don't cancel her, she and The View are a useful window into the brains of Bobblehead central. Says the Joe Rogan fan boi.
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Reply #11 - Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:41am

Gordon wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:40am:

mothra wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:38am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:13am:

Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race.

Its subjective nature.

What does someone mean when they discuss race?

Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did.

I think this sums it up perfectly.

It's like how all the Islamophobes on here deny that Islam is a race, therefore they are not racist. As though their comments on every other demographic don't give them away in any event.

I prefer to apply the term 'bigot'.

Are bogans in the airport on their way to Bali a race?

No.

Are overweight people?

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95395 Gender:	Re: Whoopie Reply #12 - Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 12:10pm Valkie wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 10:06am: Of course her comments are life altering. No apology will ever sate the vicious appetite of the politically correct virtue signallers. Er, Gordon's trying to virtue signal.you, Valkie. Good on you for taking him up on that. Most virtuous of you.
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Reply #13 - Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 12:15pm

mothra wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:41am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:40am:

mothra wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:38am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 11:13am:

Whoopi Goldberg accidentally threw light on an obvious problem when discussing race.

Its subjective nature.

What does someone mean when they discuss race?

Through the lens of Goldberg's experience, it was black vs white and was likely so obvious to her, she'd never felt she needed to define the term, until she did.

I think this sums it up perfectly.

It's like how all the Islamophobes on here deny that Islam is a race, therefore they are not racist. As though their comments on every other demographic don't give them away in any event.

I prefer to apply the term 'bigot'.

Are bogans in the airport on their way to Bali a race?

No.

Are overweight people?

I don't give a schit about overweight people, just as long as their fat bodies don't spill across from their seat to mine. I certainly don't mind sharing an airport with them, like you do with bogans going to Bali.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83994 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Whoopie Reply #14 - Feb 2^nd, 2022 at 12:17pm drops into his best Bogie voice - Honey - that wasn't the kind of bat he was considering swinging.... Doesn't matter if Islam is a race - too many bad apples in it..... same as Abos with their massive over-representation in violence of all kinds. Those are the fig-yures, Major Kong...
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