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Reply #75 - Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:30pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:28pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:21pm:
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1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity.



1. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition.

2. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice.


1. Who told you that grubby lie? What you have just done is this : you've proven that you're Anti Semitic.

2. That's not true at all. Ever heard of the Holocaust Studies Dept of Sydney Uni? I was one of its students.

We covered in meticulous detail what happened and why. And what you've just stated has shown me that you've just made that cr@p up.  I mean it's serious and high level cr@p.

Look perhaps it's time you gave that id a rest. Come out with your other one. Start again. Yeah?

What race are Jews?


Jewish.

So, genetically there's a Jewish race? How are Ethiopians Jews the same by race as Turkic/Slavic Ashkenazi Jews?


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Reply #76 - Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:31pm
 
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Reply #77 - Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:31pm
 
Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:27pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:21pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm:
1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity.



1. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition.

2. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice.


1. Who told you that grubby lie? What you have just done is this : you've proven that you're Anti Semitic.

2. That's not true at all. Ever heard of the Holocaust Studies Dept of Sydney Uni? I was one of its students.

We covered in meticulous detail what happened and why. And what you've just stated has shown me that you've just made that cr@p up.  I mean it's serious and high level cr@p.

Look perhaps it's time you gave that id a rest. Come out with your other one. Start again. Yeah?

What race are Jews?


DNA testing says that they all have Levant DNA. I don't know if that goes the same for Ethiopians.


Ethiopians and all dark races descended from Ham the second son of Noah.

The Jews descended from Shem the eldest son of Noah.

The Arabs didn't descend from Shem. They were descended from a mix of Shem and Ham.

Nth and Sth Europeans and British etc descended from Japheth the youngest son of Noah.
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Reply #78 - Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:31pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:28pm:
Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:12pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:02pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm:
1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity.


There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition.

It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice.


In very much the same way as Islam has in the current clime.

Yes.


Which is why I never say Arab when speaking about Islam. Islam is an ideology and as such there can never be racism involved. It's an abhorrent ideology, the people sucked forcefully into it are victims of violent coercion and may never leave it without death hanging over their heads. No matter where it lives, it's a cancer.

Ironically it's Islam's blindness to race that was its catapult to popularity. By tradition. the original call to prayer was first uttered by a black African.

It was this blindness to race that turned Malcom X after his Haj against Elijah Muhammad and his Nation of Islam.

Muhammed Ali had the same experience.


If that's really the case, perhaps racism has a real place in the world. Getting it on with neighbouring people has never been a problem, from Neaderthals to, well anyone with feelings and a sex drive, the things that divide people are mind viruses, religions, cultures not the people themselves.
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Reply #79 - Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:32pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:28pm:
Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:12pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:02pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm:
1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity.


There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition.

It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice.


In very much the same way as Islam has in the current clime.

Yes.


Which is why I never say Arab when speaking about Islam. Islam is an ideology and as such there can never be racism involved. It's an abhorrent ideology, the people sucked forcefully into it are victims of violent coercion and may never leave it without death hanging over their heads. No matter where it lives, it's a cancer.

Ironically it's Islam's blindness to race that was its catapult to popularity. By tradition. the original call to prayer was first uttered by a black African.

It was this blindness to race that turned Malcom X after his Haj against Elijah Muhammad and his Nation of Islam.

Muhammed Ali had the same experience.



I don't know if you're meaning to be misleading or not but Malcolm X never turned agaisnt Islam when he spurned Elijah Muhammad.
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Re: Whoopie
Reply #80 - Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:32pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:30pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:28pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:21pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm:
1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity.



1. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition.

2. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice.


1. Who told you that grubby lie? What you have just done is this : you've proven that you're Anti Semitic.

2. That's not true at all. Ever heard of the Holocaust Studies Dept of Sydney Uni? I was one of its students.

We covered in meticulous detail what happened and why. And what you've just stated has shown me that you've just made that cr@p up.  I mean it's serious and high level cr@p.

Look perhaps it's time you gave that id a rest. Come out with your other one. Start again. Yeah?

What race are Jews?


Jewish.

So, genetically there's a Jewish race? How are Ethiopians Jews the same by race as Turkic/Slavic Ashkenazi Jews?




Refer previous post.

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Re: Whoopie
Reply #81 - Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:33pm
 
mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:32pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:28pm:
Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:12pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:02pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm:
1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity.


There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition.

It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice.


In very much the same way as Islam has in the current clime.

Yes.


Which is why I never say Arab when speaking about Islam. Islam is an ideology and as such there can never be racism involved. It's an abhorrent ideology, the people sucked forcefully into it are victims of violent coercion and may never leave it without death hanging over their heads. No matter where it lives, it's a cancer.

Ironically it's Islam's blindness to race that was its catapult to popularity. By tradition. the original call to prayer was first uttered by a black African.

It was this blindness to race that turned Malcom X after his Haj against Elijah Muhammad and his Nation of Islam.

Muhammed Ali had the same experience.



I don't know if you're meaning to be misleading or not but Malcolm X never turned agaisnt Islam when he spurned Elijah Muhammad.


Spurned? Oh, do tell!
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Reply #82 - Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:33pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:31pm:
Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:27pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:21pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm:
1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity.



1. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition.

2. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice.


1. Who told you that grubby lie? What you have just done is this : you've proven that you're Anti Semitic.

2. That's not true at all. Ever heard of the Holocaust Studies Dept of Sydney Uni? I was one of its students.

We covered in meticulous detail what happened and why. And what you've just stated has shown me that you've just made that cr@p up.  I mean it's serious and high level cr@p.

Look perhaps it's time you gave that id a rest. Come out with your other one. Start again. Yeah?

What race are Jews?


DNA testing says that they all have Levant DNA. I don't know if that goes the same for Ethiopians.


Ethiopians and all dark races descended from Ham the second son of Noah.

The Jews descended from Shem the eldest son of Noah.

The Arabs didn't descend from Shem. They were descended from a mix of Shem and Ham.

Nth and Sth Europeans and British etc descended from Japheth the youngest son of Noah.



Oh for crying out loud.
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Re: Whoopie
Reply #83 - Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:33pm
 
mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:32pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:28pm:
Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:12pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:02pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm:
1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity.


There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition.

It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice.


In very much the same way as Islam has in the current clime.

Yes.


Which is why I never say Arab when speaking about Islam. Islam is an ideology and as such there can never be racism involved. It's an abhorrent ideology, the people sucked forcefully into it are victims of violent coercion and may never leave it without death hanging over their heads. No matter where it lives, it's a cancer.

Ironically it's Islam's blindness to race that was its catapult to popularity. By tradition. the original call to prayer was first uttered by a black African.

It was this blindness to race that turned Malcom X after his Haj against Elijah Muhammad and his Nation of Islam.

Muhammed Ali had the same experience.



I don't know if you're meaning to be misleading or not but Malcolm X never turned agaisnt Islam when he spurned Elijah Muhammad.

No. His understanding of Islam was radically transformed after his Haj such that he saw Elijah Muhammed as a fraud.
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Reply #84 - Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:34pm
 
mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:33pm:
Oh for crying out loud.

It's the problem of confusing religious myth as history.
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Reply #85 - Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:35pm
 
Dear God I was wondering when Malcolm ax's name turned up.

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Reply #86 - Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:36pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:34pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:33pm:
Oh for crying out loud.

It's the problem of confusing religious myth as history.


Who told you that?

It's not true at all.
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Reply #87 - Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:37pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:30pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:28pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:21pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm:
1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity.



1. There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition.

2. It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice.


1. Who told you that grubby lie? What you have just done is this : you've proven that you're Anti Semitic.

2. That's not true at all. Ever heard of the Holocaust Studies Dept of Sydney Uni? I was one of its students.

We covered in meticulous detail what happened and why. And what you've just stated has shown me that you've just made that cr@p up.  I mean it's serious and high level cr@p.

Look perhaps it's time you gave that id a rest. Come out with your other one. Start again. Yeah?

What race are Jews?


Jewish.

So, genetically there's a Jewish race? How are Ethiopians Jews the same by race as Turkic/Slavic Ashkenazi Jews?




Ever heard of the diaspora?

Look it up. It will help explain why.
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Re: Whoopie
Reply #88 - Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:37pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:33pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:32pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:28pm:
Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:24pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:12pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:02pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:59pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 1:47pm:
1. I disagree with how you choose to define Jewish ethnicity.


There is no such thing as Jewish ethnicity. It is a religious and cultural definition.

It has been crudely subsumed into the definition of race due to the Nazis, not by their own choice.


In very much the same way as Islam has in the current clime.

Yes.


Which is why I never say Arab when speaking about Islam. Islam is an ideology and as such there can never be racism involved. It's an abhorrent ideology, the people sucked forcefully into it are victims of violent coercion and may never leave it without death hanging over their heads. No matter where it lives, it's a cancer.

Ironically it's Islam's blindness to race that was its catapult to popularity. By tradition. the original call to prayer was first uttered by a black African.

It was this blindness to race that turned Malcom X after his Haj against Elijah Muhammad and his Nation of Islam.

Muhammed Ali had the same experience.



I don't know if you're meaning to be misleading or not but Malcolm X never turned agaisnt Islam when he spurned Elijah Muhammad.

No. His understanding of Islam was radically transformed after his Haj such that he saw Elijah Muhammed as a fraud.



There was much more to it. You cannot simplify it to that single event. For example, Elijah was critical of Malcolm's militancy. It was a long brewing battle.
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Reply #89 - Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:38pm
 
Setanta wrote on Feb 2nd, 2022 at 2:27pm:
DNA testing says that they all have Levant DNA. I don't know if that goes the same for Ethiopians.

Oh really?

Ashkenazi jews are of Iranian/Turkic/Slavic descent.

Ethiopians claim Judaism was introduced to the land now called Ethiopia by Solomon.

And those Jews who are descended from converts to Judaism across Europe over the centuries?

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