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Reply #255 - Feb 25^th, 2022 at 7:48pm

athos wrote on Feb 25^th, 2022 at 7:45pm:

The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine confirms the fact that Russian troops are entering Kiev. Zelensky, like Hitler, demands that children be recruited "for the defense of the fatherland".

While Putin, like Hitler, claims he is only invading to prevent the Sudeten Russians/Ukrainians, from oppressing Russians living there and then invading the Motherland, and he is only responding to a desperate plea from Russian separatists there who are being so badly persecuted by the Ukraine. The Ukraine attacked the Gleiwitz radio station, no??

In other words - utter bullshit.

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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6389 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine Reply #259 - Feb 25^th, 2022 at 7:56pm Ukrainians receive Russian troops in liberated areas. "We've been waiting for this moment for eight years," they said. https://twitter.com/i/status/1497121205408649216
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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #261 - Feb 25^th, 2022 at 8:26pm

Jim Lahey wrote on Feb 25^th, 2022 at 7:37pm:

athos wrote on Feb 25^th, 2022 at 2:54pm:

Jim Lahey wrote on Feb 25^th, 2022 at 2:00pm:

Jasin and Athos would make a good couple

I prefer to screw you.
You are such a feminine chick.
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I dare you to write on this forum that xi jinping is a blood thirsty dictator

He is also a crunt. Our Chinese diplomat said today China is prepared to meet Oz half way in our disputes and Morrison told him to F.U.C.K O.F.F.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #263 - Feb 25^th, 2022 at 8:40pm

Johnnie wrote on Feb 25^th, 2022 at 8:26pm:

Jim Lahey wrote on Feb 25^th, 2022 at 7:37pm:

athos wrote on Feb 25^th, 2022 at 2:54pm:

Jim Lahey wrote on Feb 25^th, 2022 at 2:00pm:

Jasin and Athos would make a good couple

I prefer to screw you.
You are such a feminine chick.
Grin

I dare you to write on this forum that xi jinping is a blood thirsty dictator

He is also a crunt. Our Chinese diplomat said today China is prepared to meet Oz half way in our disputes and Morrison told him to F.U.C.K O.F.F.

It's a sheila thing - invade, strike down Pearl Harbour, bring the tanks within gun range of your capital, and then offer to meet you halfway......

You need it every day in the finer nuances of racism and feminism in this country (and all the other social adventures) - they launch an attack, blame the other side for it, and then offer to negotiate but only on their terms....

No wonder the West is finally beginning to wake up and tell them all to F.U.C.K O.F.F.

Expand to the international arena..... there, my lords ... there is your enemy!! And your Fifth Columns within....

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #264 - Feb 26^th, 2022 at 6:30am

athos wrote on Feb 25^th, 2022 at 7:46pm:

Jim Lahey wrote on Feb 25^th, 2022 at 7:37pm:

athos wrote on Feb 25^th, 2022 at 2:54pm:

Jim Lahey wrote on Feb 25^th, 2022 at 2:00pm:

Jasin and Athos would make a good couple

I prefer to screw you.
You are such a feminine chick.
Grin

I dare you to write on this forum that xi jinping is a blood thirsty dictator

LOL obviously that's one step too far for your masters in bejing?

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #265 - Feb 26^th, 2022 at 7:31am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 14^th, 2022 at 9:51pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 14^th, 2022 at 9:40pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 14^th, 2022 at 9:23pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 14^th, 2022 at 9:05pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 14^th, 2022 at 6:07pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 14^th, 2022 at 5:34pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 14^th, 2022 at 5:13pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 14^th, 2022 at 4:35pm:

Expanding NATO across Eastern Europe was a mistake. They should have made them all militarily neutral, like Switzerland, Austria, Sweden and Finland.

Expansion of NATO:

Had they not joined NATO, most of those ex-Warsaw Pact countries would be back under Russian influence.

Your assumption is nonsense.

Funny how entry into the EU wasn't enough to placate the fears of ex-Warsaw Pact countries.

The EU is not a military organisation

Exactly.

Which is why the ex-Warsaw Pact nations needed membership in NATO (which includes the US) to ensure the Russians wouldn't be back, given an attack on one is an attack on all.

Nonsense. NATO will not, cannot defend these countries. It is inconceivable that the West will go to war with Russia for Latvia or Bulgaria or Romania, let alone for the Ukraine. It's delusional.

It's Stalinesque (or Khrushchevian) that Putin would test NATO resolve.

I agree with Frank, however, I cannot say I am in total disagreement with Eckhart either. One is a Russian perspective, the other one of Western perspective. This is why wars are fought, when there are people who holds to firm views on both sides. And when there is enough money, and life lost, then the sensible ones on both side will sit down and negotiate a compromise.

For Russian, the calculation is more simple. If Ukraine joins the NATO, there will be missiles stations in Ukraine aiming at Moscow. When that happens, Russia will have to strike. And that would be Russia Vs the whole NATO. And by then, NATO would had being prepared. Since, the fight is not avoidable, then mind as well start the fight now when the enemy is not prepared or united.

This had being the way for thousands of years. It did not stop in the past, in will not stop now or into the future.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #266 - Feb 26^th, 2022 at 8:41am

Twelve thousand Chechens volunteers ready to deploy to Ukraine – Kadyrov

Thousands of men from Chechnya are willing to offer assistance to Russia’s armed forces, the southern republic’s leader, Ramzan Kadyrov, has pledged, as Moscow’s military conducted the second day of its attack on Ukraine.
“These are volunteers who are ready to leave for any special operation at any time in order to secure our state and our people,” Kadyrov told the outlet, adding that no troops would be deployed until the “Supreme Commander in Chief” Putin gave the go-ahead.

https://www.rt.com/russia/550649-chechen-soldiers-deploy-ukraine/

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #267 - Feb 26^th, 2022 at 8:44am

Putin tells Ukrainian military to ‘take power into their hands’

Ukraine’s Armed Forces should “take power” in the country and negotiate peace with Moscow, President Vladimir Putin said during a Russian Security Council meeting on Friday. He also accused the Kiev government and “neo-Nazis” of using civilians as “human shields” amid Russia’s offensive in Ukraine.

Putin said the Ukrainian military must not allow their government to use their “children, wives and loved ones as human shields” – tactics he insisted Kiev was using during Moscow’s military operation.

“Take the power into your own hands!” the Russian president said, arguing that the army would be a better negotiating partner than “a bunch of drug addicts and neo-Nazis” who he claimed have “entrenched themselves in Kiev,”
https://www.rt.com/russia/550628-putin-address-ukraine-military-power/

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #268 - Feb 26^th, 2022 at 8:47am

Ukraine proposed talks, then ‘disappeared’

Kiev first agreed to talks with Russia, then went silent and placed artillery amid civilians, the Kremlin claims
Ukraine proposed talks, then ‘disappeared’ – Kremlin
Ukraine had agreed to negotiate with Russia, picking the Polish capital of Warsaw as the site for talks, then “ghosted” Moscow as it began deploying rocket artillery inside civilian neighborhoods of major cities, the Kremlin claimed on Friday.
https://www.rt.com/russia/550655-ukraine-operation-peace-talks-disappeared/

President Volodymyr Zelensky said early in the day he was willing to talk with Russia to stop the “invasion” of Ukraine. The Kremlin had communicated Russia’s terms for ending the military operation aimed at “demilitarizing and denazifying” Kiev.

“The Ukrainian side said it had reconsidered the idea of holding talks in Minsk, chose Warsaw instead, and then disappeared,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Friday evening.
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Putin tells Ukrainian military to ‘take power into their hands’

Peskov pointed out that the sudden pause came as “nationalist elements” began deploying multiple rocket launcher systems in residential areas of major Ukrainian cities, which Russia warned could lead to civilian casualties that Moscow has been trying to avoid.

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