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Reply #495 - Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:14am

Karnal wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2022 at 7:03pm:

Russia was already occupying the territories you're suggesting the Ukraine should have compromised. Putin wanted the lot. I'm asking you why Russians should feel entitled to the Ukraine.

Do you want to say?

History has left Russians living in certain parts of Ukraine. Putin believes Ukraine shouldn't exist, no doubt a view not held by most Russians.

But why have Russians - who Putin feels need defending from attack by Ukrainians - been fighting Ukrainians in Ukraine, since 2014?

My solution is a compromise with history:

Putin should have whipped up enough support in the UNGA for a Crimea settlement (ie rejoining Russia, since Crimea is overwhelmingly populated by Russians who voted to rejoin Russia) , with the option of Russians from East Ukraine allowed to settle in Russian Crimea.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #496 - Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:15am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2022 at 7:10pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2022 at 6:11pm:

Ouch...I recall Ronnie started making those sorts of mistakes...

That would put you at about 50.

So you were born within the years of the cultural revolution.

Another irrelevant post which will make a useful page turner

Edit: done, see post#495.

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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6396 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine Reply #497 - Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:17am wombatwoody wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2022 at 6:04pm: Russia blows up a propaganda station in Kiev: https://twitter.com/intel_sky/status/1498688917524172800 Ukrainians shouldn't worry, the USA and the UK will fight against the Russians to the last Ukrainian.
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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #498 - Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:17am

Dnarever wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2022 at 8:00pm:

Jasin wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 9:14pm:

Someone's thinking like me.https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/no-russia-will-not-invade-ukraine/ar-AATDLf...

My original thought was no that's not possible - But I do see what you mean but I suspect that thinking like you is still not the reason as it is still not possible.

We all thought the invasion wouldn't happen.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #499 - Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:19am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2022 at 7:10pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2022 at 6:11pm:

Ouch...I recall Ronnie started making those sorts of mistakes...

That would put you at about 50.

So you were born within the years of the cultural revolution.

😂🤣😆

It's amazing how easily multi trolls like greatdhead get caught out.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #500 - Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:20am

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:14am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2022 at 7:03pm:

Russia was already occupying the territories you're suggesting the Ukraine should have compromised. Putin wanted the lot. I'm asking you why Russians should feel entitled to the Ukraine.

Do you want to say?

History has left Russians living in certain parts of Ukraine. Putin believes Ukraine shouldn't exist, no doubt a view not held by most Russians.

But why have Russians - who Putin feels need defending from attack by Ukrainians - been fighting Ukrainians since 2014?

My solution is a compromise a stated in #

Putin should have whipped up enough support in the UNGA for a Crimea settlement (ie rejoining Russia, since Crimea is overwhelmingly populated by Russians who voted to rejoin Russia) , with the option of Russians from East Ukraine allowed to settle in Russian Crimea.

That's not a solution. Putin invaded the WHOLE Ukraine. Do you support this action?

Why or why not?

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #501 - Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:22am

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:17am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2022 at 8:00pm:

Jasin wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 9:14pm:

Someone's thinking like me.https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/no-russia-will-not-invade-ukraine/ar-AATDLf...

My original thought was no that's not possible - But I do see what you mean but I suspect that thinking like you is still not the reason as it is still not possible.

We all thought the invasion wouldn't happen.

We all?

No we didn't.

Unless of course you're referring to yourself and your troll multi ids.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #502 - Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:27am

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:15am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2022 at 7:10pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2022 at 6:11pm:

Ouch...I recall Ronnie started making those sorts of mistakes...

That would put you at about 50.

So you were born within the years of the cultural revolution.

Another irrelevant post which will make a useful page turner

Edit: done, see post#495.

All you've done in editing your post no: 495 is pathetically attempt to hide the fact that you're a 50+ year old multi troll.

It's a tad too late for that. You've been sprung.

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If I let myself be bought then I am no longer free.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #503 - Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:36am

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:19am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2022 at 7:10pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2022 at 6:11pm:

Ouch...I recall Ronnie started making those sorts of mistakes...

That would put you at about 50.

So you were born within the years of the cultural revolution.

😂🤣😆

It's amazing how easily multi trolls like greatdhead get caught out.

What exactly was "caught out" by Eckhart's erroneous assumptions?

Edit: another of your irrelevant page turners will appear soon.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #504 - Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:40am

Karnal wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:20am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:14am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2022 at 7:03pm:

Russia was already occupying the territories you're suggesting the Ukraine should have compromised. Putin wanted the lot. I'm asking you why Russians should feel entitled to the Ukraine.

Do you want to say?

History has left Russians living in certain parts of Ukraine. Putin believes Ukraine shouldn't exist, no doubt a view not held by most Russians.

But why have Russians - who Putin feels need defending from attack by Ukrainians - been fighting Ukrainians since 2014?

My solution is a compromise a stated in #

Putin should have whipped up enough support in the UNGA for a Crimea settlement (ie rejoining Russia, since Crimea is overwhelmingly populated by Russians who voted to rejoin Russia) , with the option of Russians from East Ukraine allowed to settle in Russian Crimea.

That's not a solution. Putin invaded the WHOLE Ukraine. Do you support this action?

No.

Quote:

Why or why not?

Putin made a mistake, he considers the Ukraine shouldn't exist.

I offered a solution based on dealing with historical realities which you are content to ignore.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #505 - Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:44am

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:22am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:17am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2022 at 8:00pm:

Jasin wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 9:14pm:

Someone's thinking like me.https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/no-russia-will-not-invade-ukraine/ar-AATDLf...

My original thought was no that's not possible - But I do see what you mean but I suspect that thinking like you is still not the reason as it is still not possible.

We all thought the invasion wouldn't happen.

We all?

No we didn't.

Unless of course you're referring to yourself and your troll multi ids.

Biden - with good intelligence (for once) - only started claiming it two weeks before the invasion happened.

No doubt you knew it would happen much earlier than Biden.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #506 - Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:45am

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:27am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:15am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2022 at 7:10pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2022 at 6:11pm:

Ouch...I recall Ronnie started making those sorts of mistakes...

That would put you at about 50.

So you were born within the years of the cultural revolution.

Another irrelevant post which will make a useful page turner

Edit: done, see post#495.

All you've done in editing your post no: 495 is pathetically attempt to hide the fact that you're a 50+ year old multi troll.

It's a tad too late for that. You've been sprung.

Thanks for another irrelevant post, it too will make a good page turner.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #507 - Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 11:12am

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:17am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2022 at 8:00pm:

Jasin wrote on Feb 9^th, 2022 at 9:14pm:

Someone's thinking like me.https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/no-russia-will-not-invade-ukraine/ar-AATDLf...

My original thought was no that's not possible - But I do see what you mean but I suspect that thinking like you is still not the reason as it is still not possible.

We all thought the invasion wouldn't happen.

The US didn't and asked the CCP to negotiate with Putin.

The CCP disregarded the request and passed it on to Putin as the US 'causing trouble'.

Then Putin invaded Ukraine.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #508 - Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 1:31pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:40am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:20am:

[quote author=AusbetterWorld link=1644405253/495#495 date=1646266462][quote author=Karnal link=1644405253/491#491 date=1646211828]
Russia was already occupying the territories you're suggesting the Ukraine should have compromised. Putin wanted the lot. I'm asking you why Russians should feel entitled to the Ukraine.

Do you want to say?

History has left Russians living in certain parts of Ukraine. Putin believes Ukraine shouldn't exist, no doubt a view not held by most Russians.

But why have Russians - who Putin feels need defending from attack by Ukrainians - been fighting Ukrainians since 2014?

My solution is a compromise a stated in #

Putin should have whipped up enough support in the UNGA for a Crimea settlement (ie rejoining Russia, since Crimea is overwhelmingly populated by Russians who voted to rejoin Russia) , with the option of Russians from East Ukraine allowed to settle in Russian Crimea.

That's not a solution. Putin invaded the WHOLE Ukraine. Do you support this action? Quote:

No.

Quote:

Why or why not?

Putin made a mistake, he considers the Ukraine shouldn't exist.

I offered a solution based on dealing with historical realities which you are content to ignore.

A mistake? How is invading a country with a population of 44 million people a mistake?

Your compromise is not a solution. How can the Ukraine offer Putin the Crimea now? Putin wants the whole country. He's said it: the Ukraine, he said, is spiritually Russian.

Let's start again. Do you support Putin remaining in the Ukraine after his mistake?

Why or why not?

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #509 - Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 2:57pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:36am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:19am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2022 at 7:10pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2022 at 6:11pm:

Ouch...I recall Ronnie started making those sorts of mistakes...

That would put you at about 50.

So you were born within the years of the cultural revolution.

😂🤣😆

It's amazing how easily multi trolls like greatdhead get caught out.

What exactly was "caught out" by Eckhart's erroneous assumptions?

Edit: another of your irrelevant page turners will appear soon.

"Do not cast your pearls before swines"
Matthew 7 12

Yep, this topic needs people with intellect and knowledge.

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