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Reply #555 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 9:31am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 7:47am:

athos wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 6:08am:

JC Denton wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 11:01pm:

might want to get your clock readjusted re: the pronouncement in this thread title guys

Of course not. The topic is completely legitimate, since Russia did not invade Ukraine, but is conducting a special military operation to liberate Ukraine from NATO occupation and its Nazi elements.

A dickhead like you was kicked out of Q&A last night:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-03/stan-grant-tells-audience-member-to-leave...

Stan handled that quite well.

Shame about the Russian kid in the audience who's been brainwashed - I trust he'll be sent home.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95293 Gender:	Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine Reply #556 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 10:19am athos wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 8:23am: Ukrainian Nazi racism on display - Part3 That's we need process of denazification. That's called Russian propaganda on display, dear. Do they teach critical thinking where you come from?
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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #557 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 10:24am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 9:31am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 7:47am:

athos wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 6:08am:

JC Denton wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 11:01pm:

might want to get your clock readjusted re: the pronouncement in this thread title guys

Of course not. The topic is completely legitimate, since Russia did not invade Ukraine, but is conducting a special military operation to liberate Ukraine from NATO occupation and its Nazi elements.

A dickhead like you was kicked out of Q&A last night:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-03/stan-grant-tells-audience-member-to-leave...

Stan handled that quite well.

Shame about the Russian kid in the audience who's been brainwashed - I trust he'll be sent home.

Thrown out of Q&A for asking a question?

PATHETIC.

At no time did the kid advocate violence. Stan Grant corrected his Russian propaganda on the spot - 30,000 killed in the whole conflict. Well handled.

To then stop the show and give a kid a dressing down like a school prefect was cringeworthy. Stan gave the Russians everything they need to shriek CENSORSHIP.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #558 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 11:53am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 8:38pm:

athos wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 3:21pm:

Braking news:

China's final position: "We will not join you! Your sanctions against Russia have no legal basis!"

What legal basis got to do with anything in war?

Exactly, that is why you are considered uncivilized Barbarians.

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Reply #559 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 11:59am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 8:50pm:

athos wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2022 at 4:28pm:

If Russia takes Ukraine, China will Taiwan. Next, China needs 48 hours to liberate Australia from British occupation. In this case, the United States and mama Britain will impose strong sanctions on China, which is the price that China is ready to pay. These sanctions will be negligible compared to obtaining the Australian natural resources that China so desperately needs.
See you soon Aussies.
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It'll be more than sanctions. ANZUS will be invoked.

That's right, Australia desperately needs Decolonization to start building prosperous equal opportunity multicultural society.

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Reply #560 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 12:04pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 7:22am:

athos wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 5:55am:

Breaking news:

Russia and Ukraine agree on civilian humanitarian corridors

https://cdni.rt.com/files/2022.03/l/622105d42030277f4c292da8.jpg

During the second round of talks in Belarus on Thursday, Moscow and Kiev agreed on mechanisms to establish routes via which to evacuate civilians from combat zones in Ukraine.

“The parties have reached an understanding on the joint establishment of humanitarian corridors with a temporary ceasefire. Russia and Ukraine will soon create channels of communication and cooperation to organize these corridors,” Ukrainian presidential aide Mikhail Podolyak said.

The head of the Russian delegation, Vladimir Medinsky confirmed the development, stating that the two sides had solved the “main issue” of saving the lives of civilians. The negotiators also found common ground on other outstanding matters, namely military and humanitarian issues, and future political reconciliation, he added.
https://www.rt.com/russia/551177-negotiations-with-ukraine/

This is very good news. It will prevent the Ukrainian Nazis from holding civilian hostages as a defensive shield and enable the Russian army to freely apply denazification pest control treatment.
Grin

Are you so totally deluded as to believe your absurd propaganda convinces anyone but yourself and your Russian minders?

What about your perfidious Anglo convictions?

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Reply #561 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 1:17pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:45pm:

Right, so you don't support the invasion, and you don't support the Ukraine defending the invasion.

That's a lose-lose, no?

The loss is the the loss of innocent life when armies start firing at one another in modern civilian-based war arenas. Should have finally been criminalized in 1946.

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So I'm curious. How to give everybody what they want?

I've spent hours patiently explaining it to Frank, but
deluded "freedom" ideologues like yourself are slow learners. Hopefully your own children aren't in the firing line.

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If we took away said veto,

....the UNSC would speak with one voice, to maintain the rulings of an ICJ dedicated to upholding the UNUDHR ie, by majority vote of the permanent members, just as a majority vote of justices in a nation's own Supreme Court is the foundation of rule of law in the nation; individual nations would NOT be free to wage war on the basis of the obsolete concept of national sovereignty.

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Putin would be in the Hague, in a cell next to Bush. That, dear, won't happen, as every schoolboy knows.

Both of them, being free from the burden of maintaining national "security" vis a vis other nations, would only be involved in engendering sustainable prosperity in their own nations.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #562 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 1:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 7:47am:

athos wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 6:08am:

JC Denton wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 11:01pm:

might want to get your clock readjusted re: the pronouncement in this thread title guys

Of course not. The topic is completely legitimate, since Russia did not invade Ukraine, but is conducting a special military operation to liberate Ukraine from NATO occupation and its Nazi elements.

A dickhead like you was kicked out of Q&A last night:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-03/stan-grant-tells-audience-member-to-leave...

I saw that, but I still don't understand why Stan Grant said the audience member was "advocating violence"(which is why Grant said he ejected him).

The audience member said 13000 people had been killed in Donbas since 2014, which is accepted as true by the UN.

Can anyone say how the audience member was "advocating violence"?

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #564 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 1:48pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 9:19am:

Ridiculous. All he did was ask a question. No violence at all. Cunning, no?

I'm still waiting for someone to explain how the audience member "advocated violence". Grant exercising his wannabe-dictator fantasies?

Still, Grant shares your views on China's consensus one- party meritocracy..calls it tyranny, a bit rich coming from a boof-head and a wannabe tyrant.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #565 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 1:58pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 1:17pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:45pm:

Right, so you don't support the invasion, and you don't support the Ukraine defending the invasion.

That's a lose-lose, no?

The loss is the the loss of innocent life when armies start firing at one another in modern civilian-based war arenas. Should have finally been criminalized in 1946.

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So I'm curious. How to give everybody what they want?

I've spent hours patiently explaining it to Frank, but
deluded "freedom" ideologues like yourself are slow learners. Hopefully your own children aren't in the firing line.

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If we took away said veto,

....the UNSC would speak with one voice, to maintain the rulings of an ICJ dedicated to upholding the UNUDHR ie, by majority vote of the permanent members, just as a majority vote of justices in a nation's own Supreme Court is the foundation of rule of law in the nation; individual nations would NOT be free to wage war on the basis of the obsolete concept of national sovereignty.

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Putin would be in the Hague, in a cell next to Bush. That, dear, won't happen, as every schoolboy knows.

Both of them, being free from the burden of maintaining national "security" vis a vis other nations, would only be involved in engendering sustainable prosperity in their own nations.

Sorry, Great, I'm confused. Are you complaining about Ukrainian soldiers murdering innocent Russian troops?

You may have patiently told the old boy, but I haven't seen your explanation. Did you catch the news about the Russian invasion?

Cheers.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #566 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 1:58pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 1:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 7:47am:

athos wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 6:08am:

JC Denton wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 11:01pm:

might want to get your clock readjusted re: the pronouncement in this thread title guys

Of course not. The topic is completely legitimate, since Russia did not invade Ukraine, but is conducting a special military operation to liberate Ukraine from NATO occupation and its Nazi elements.

A dickhead like you was kicked out of Q&A last night:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-03/stan-grant-tells-audience-member-to-leave...

I saw that, but I still don't understand why Stan Grant said the audience member was "advocating violence"(which is why Grant said he ejected him).

The audience member said 13000 people had been killed in Donbas since 2014, which is accepted as true by the UN.

Can anyone say how the audience member was "advocating violence"?

Yes.

The audience member said he supported what Russia was doing.

"Believe it or not, there are a lot of Russians here and around the world that support what Putin is doing in the Ukraine, myself included."

That's advocating violence/murder.

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Reply #567 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 2:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 9:31am:

Stan handled that quite well.

Shame about the Russian kid in the audience who's been brainwashed - I trust he'll be sent home.

Can you explain how that kid was "advocating violence"?

Stan said "people were dying", but I don't see how the kid who pointed out that 13,000 people (all Russians?) had been killed in Donbas since 2014, is "advocating violence" just because he was supporting the Russian view of the invasion as a liberation of Russians living in Ukraine.

Stan adopted the roll of judge and jury, which he is not entitled to do.

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Reply #568 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 2:03pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 1:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 7:47am:

athos wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 6:08am:

JC Denton wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 11:01pm:

might want to get your clock readjusted re: the pronouncement in this thread title guys

Of course not. The topic is completely legitimate, since Russia did not invade Ukraine, but is conducting a special military operation to liberate Ukraine from NATO occupation and its Nazi elements.

A dickhead like you was kicked out of Q&A last night:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-03/stan-grant-tells-audience-member-to-leave...

I saw that, but I still don't understand why Stan Grant said the audience member was "advocating violence"(which is why Grant said he ejected him).

The audience member said 13000 people had been killed in Donbas since 2014, which is accepted as true by the UN.

Can anyone say how the audience member was "advocating violence"?

He wasn't. Stan didn't need to throw him out, he had no further questions and was sitting quietly in the audience.

Consider it typical Deep State CENSORSHIP on behalf of "our ABC".

Maybe if Putin invades us, we'll get a more free and open media, no?

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #569 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 2:03pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 2:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 9:31am:

Stan handled that quite well.

Shame about the Russian kid in the audience who's been brainwashed - I trust he'll be sent home.

Can you explain how that kid was "advocating violence"?

Yes.

The audience member said he supported what Russia was doing.

"Believe it or not, there are a lot of Russians here and around the world that support what Putin is doing in the Ukraine, myself included."

That's advocating violence/murder.

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