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Reply #585 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:12pm

athos wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 2:53pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 2:09pm:

Wow - so the claim is that 13000 Russian people have been killed by the Ukrainians? What a story that nobody has heard until now....

The persecution of the Sudeten Germans and the Ukrainian provocation must be stopped!!!!!

What an absolute load of bullshit.

Ukrainian forces captured by DPR were brought to see their crimes and pay tribute to the "Allley Angels" in Donetsk,
Where thousands of Russian children were killed in their homes, kindergartens and schools.

Well I’ve often thought of you as an idiot in the pay of the Russian state but after that piece of nonsense I’m sure you’re no more than a very bad piece of software produced originally in Russian before being sloppily translated into what is supposed to pass as English. Either way you MUST TRY BETTER.

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Reply #586 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:23pm

Chechnya leader Ramzan Kadyrov promised $500 000 for "Ukrainian nationalists commanders heads"

Chechnya leader Ramzan Kadyrov promised a 500 000 $ reward for the chairman`s head of every Ukrainian nationalists commander.
That statement Kadyrov made in his telegram channel.

“A reward is being announced for the heads of the Ukrainian nationalists commander: Bandera, Azov, Dudayev’s battalion of shaitans (devils). I say this not as an official, but as a volunteer on behalf of Russian patriots, the same volunteers who have financial capabilities and have expressed a desire to pay 500 000 dollars for the head of each commander," he said.
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine Reply #588 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:27pm 1 guy with many multi ids chatting to himself 😂😆🤣
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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6396 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine Reply #589 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:27pm
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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #590 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:31pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:12pm:

athos wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 2:53pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 2:09pm:

Wow - so the claim is that 13000 Russian people have been killed by the Ukrainians? What a story that nobody has heard until now....

The persecution of the Sudeten Germans and the Ukrainian provocation must be stopped!!!!!

What an absolute load of bullshit.

Ukrainian forces captured by DPR were brought to see their crimes and pay tribute to the "Allley Angels" in Donetsk,
Where thousands of Russian children were killed in their homes, kindergartens and schools.

Well I’ve often thought of you as an idiot in the pay of the Russian state but after that piece of nonsense I’m sure you’re no more than a very bad piece of software produced originally in Russian before being sloppily translated into what is supposed to pass as English. Either way you MUST TRY BETTER.

It's very difficult to deny an evidence.
Isn't it.
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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #591 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:51pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 2:22pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 2:16pm:

It's not Stan Grant's job as Q&A host to be comfortable, Greggery. The whole point of Q&A is that people aska da hard questions.

Watch Russians call the ABC Pravda, you'll see.

Stan came out looking like the Thought Police, it was embarrassing and unnecessary.

I lost respect for Stan Grant after his interview Liu Xin (one of the CCP's mouthpieces on CGTN).

Stan got my respect for that one, so what to do?

He can't please everybody, no?

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #592 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:55pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 2:22pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 1:58pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 1:17pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2022 at 10:45pm:

Right, so you don't support the invasion, and you don't support the Ukraine defending the invasion.

That's a lose-lose, no?

The loss is the the loss of innocent life when armies start firing at one another in modern civilian-based war arenas. Should have finally been criminalized in 1946.

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So I'm curious. How to give everybody what they want?

I've spent hours patiently explaining it to Frank, but
deluded "freedom" ideologues like yourself are slow learners. Hopefully your own children aren't in the firing line.

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If we took away said veto,

....the UNSC would speak with one voice, to maintain the rulings of an ICJ dedicated to upholding the UNUDHR ie, by majority vote of the permanent members, just as a majority vote of justices in a nation's own Supreme Court is the foundation of rule of law in the nation; individual nations would NOT be free to wage war on the basis of the obsolete concept of national sovereignty.

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Putin would be in the Hague, in a cell next to Bush. That, dear, won't happen, as every schoolboy knows.

Both of them, being free from the burden of maintaining national "security" vis a vis other nations, would only be involved in engendering sustainable prosperity in their own nations.

Sorry, Great, I'm confused. Are you complaining about Ukrainian soldiers murdering innocent Russian troops?

Complaining about (dis-)organized mass murder by all and sundry? YES.

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You may have patiently told the old boy, but I haven't seen your explanation. Did you catch the news about the Russian invasion?

Boring.... more avoidable mass murder - old as recorded history itself; meanwhile listening to deluded media "freedom" ideologues frantically exploiting every individual tragedy for its impact is disgusting and sick, as to be expected.....exhibiting the "human psychosis", which biologist Jeremy Griffiths points out is the result of an unconscious conflict - specific to humans - between instinct-guided behaviour, and behaviour directed by conscious awareness of the desires of self and others.

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Yes..hopefully your children aren't in the firing line.

A sovereign country defending itself against invaders is not murder, Great. We call this self defence.

So I'm curious. How would you expect the Ukraine to compromise with Russia?

Should they lay down their arms quicker? Ask to be shot? Put out their women and children to be raped? How should this compromise work, exactly?

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #593 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:57pm

athos wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:23pm:

Chechnya leader Ramzan Kadyrov promised $500 000 for "Ukrainian nationalists commanders heads"

Chechnya leader Ramzan Kadyrov promised a 500 000 $ reward for the chairman`s head of every Ukrainian nationalists commander.
That statement Kadyrov made in his telegram channel.

“A reward is being announced for the heads of the Ukrainian nationalists commander: Bandera, Azov, Dudayev’s battalion of shaitans (devils). I say this not as an official, but as a volunteer on behalf of Russian patriots, the same volunteers who have financial capabilities and have expressed a desire to pay 500 000 dollars for the head of each commander," he said.
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I say, Athos, you still haven't said why we should support Putin. What is it, exactly?

Is it his charisma? His charm?

Please explain?

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83792 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine Reply #594 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 4:01pm Ya godda link there Pilgrim - a reliable one, that is - or are ya just shootin' the breeze? Thousands of women and children were killed in Donetsk?
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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #595 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 4:04pm

athos wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:23pm:

Take up a rifle and stand a watch then, pilgrim- tha Ukraines'd love to drill yer ass all the way back to Beijing.... maybe ya could end up like the foreign jihad fighters in Afghanistan - not even a decent burial but left out by everybody as 'outsiders' for the dogs ... now if that don't give yez all a clue to the Afghan way - I can't help ya.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #596 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 4:05pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:51pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 2:22pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 2:16pm:

It's not Stan Grant's job as Q&A host to be comfortable, Greggery. The whole point of Q&A is that people aska da hard questions.

Watch Russians call the ABC Pravda, you'll see.

Stan came out looking like the Thought Police, it was embarrassing and unnecessary.

I lost respect for Stan Grant after his interview Liu Xin (one of the CCP's mouthpieces on CGTN).

Stan got my respect for that one, so what to do?

He can't please everybody, no?

Liu Xin's malevolent subtext regarding disappeared Australian journalist Cheng Lei... Stanley wasn't about to break that down.

And Liu Xin's insistence that she spoke freely and independently at CGTN in China? Not even a spitting of his coffee from the Stan.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #597 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 4:07pm

athos wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:23pm:

Chechnya leader Ramzan Kadyrov promised $500 000 for "Ukrainian nationalists commanders heads"

Chechnya leader Ramzan Kadyrov promised a 500 000 $ reward for the chairman`s head of every Ukrainian nationalists commander.
That statement Kadyrov made in his telegram channel.

“A reward is being announced for the heads of the Ukrainian nationalists commander: Bandera, Azov, Dudayev’s battalion of shaitans (devils). I say this not as an official, but as a volunteer on behalf of Russian patriots, the same volunteers who have financial capabilities and have expressed a desire to pay 500 000 dollars for the head of each commander," he said.
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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #598 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 4:40pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:57pm:

athos wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:23pm:

Chechnya leader Ramzan Kadyrov promised $500 000 for "Ukrainian nationalists commanders heads"

Chechnya leader Ramzan Kadyrov promised a 500 000 $ reward for the chairman`s head of every Ukrainian nationalists commander.
That statement Kadyrov made in his telegram channel.

“A reward is being announced for the heads of the Ukrainian nationalists commander: Bandera, Azov, Dudayev’s battalion of shaitans (devils). I say this not as an official, but as a volunteer on behalf of Russian patriots, the same volunteers who have financial capabilities and have expressed a desire to pay 500 000 dollars for the head of each commander," he said.
Cheesy

I say, Athos, you still haven't said why we should support Putin. What is it, exactly?
Is it his charisma? His charm?
Please explain?

You don't have to support anyone. Just try to be reasonably objective and not be so ignorant.

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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6396 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine Reply #599 - Mar 4^th, 2022 at 5:22pm Zelenski is obviously in a panic while reading the prepared text in Ukrainian with great difficulty, because he speaks only Russian.
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