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Reply #617 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 11:52am

athos wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 11:14am:

Russia and China are trying to save the world from Anglo-Khazarian globalist banksters fascism.

There, poppets, speaks the voice of true insanity.... is this a precursor propaganda campaign to justify invading peaceful Kazakhstan or something? You reckon any form of capitalism is worse that Russia's gangster capitalism?

Ukraine is not Russia's backyard any more than the South China Sea is China's backyard... if that kind of claim were valid, the United States could claim from their west coast all the way to Guam as their own backyard...

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Reply #618 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 12:00pm

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Ya godda link there Pilgrim - a reliable one, that is - or are ya just shootin' the breeze?

Thousands of women and children were killed in Donetsk?

https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/conflict-ukraine

"Violence in eastern Ukraine between Russian-backed separatist forces and the Ukrainian military has by conservative estimates killed more than 10,300 people and injured nearly 24,000 since April 2014".

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Reply #619 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 12:23pm

Clowns to the left of me - jokers to the right...

An act of aggression that is left unchallenged will lead to further acts of aggression. There are significant Russian minorities in Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Finland and so forth - they will soon start 'pleading' for help from the persecution of the governments there and Uncle Vlad will be forced to act.... triggering WW III.

The man is a psychopath...

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Reply #620 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 12:37pm

capitosinora wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 11:09am:

There’s something that MUST be said: America has a price we’re not willing to pay in return for Ukraine’s freedom. We’re not willing to risk U.S. troops or to start a nuclear war. It doesn’t mean we’re not compassionate but sadly we cannot save them.

Another "great" interview; he says the US can't help Ukraine much more (without risking nuclear war) because extended sanctions against Russia and Iran will collapse the US economy, because oil will go to $150/pb and stay there (hence US negotiations with Iran over oil; but who is worse, Putin or the Ayatollah?)

Solution: maximize N. American oil ASAP (inc. Canadian oil sands and US fracking....

I love it; you deluded "freedom" ideologues, including that clown Zelensky who is demanding his own countrymen die for "freedom", are all stuffed, especially if an AGW emergency is real....

Anyone for an ICJ dedicated to upholding the principles of the UN UDHR (life, prosperity and security) backed by a UNSC minus veto?

Or do you prefer to be "free" to die in nationalist fervor, as war and the impending climate collapse (with business as usual) result in extinction of the species.

That's the outcome of your "freedom" delusion.

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Reply #621 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 12:42pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 10:11pm:

athos wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 4:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:57pm:

athos wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:23pm:

Chechnya leader Ramzan Kadyrov promised $500 000 for "Ukrainian nationalists commanders heads"

Chechnya leader Ramzan Kadyrov promised a 500 000 $ reward for the chairman`s head of every Ukrainian nationalists commander.
That statement Kadyrov made in his telegram channel.

“A reward is being announced for the heads of the Ukrainian nationalists commander: Bandera, Azov, Dudayev’s battalion of shaitans (devils). I say this not as an official, but as a volunteer on behalf of Russian patriots, the same volunteers who have financial capabilities and have expressed a desire to pay 500 000 dollars for the head of each commander," he said.
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I say, Athos, you still haven't said why we should support Putin. What is it, exactly?
Is it his charisma? His charm?
Please explain?

You don't have to support anyone. Just try to be reasonably objective and not be so ignorant.

I see, so let's get this straight.

Do you support the Russian invasion of the Ukraine?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

I see, so let's get this straight.

Do you want to be The Grand Inquisitor?
Do you want to be a like him***?
Simply yes or no.

*** I understand that this is most likely beyond the capacity of your limited Anglo Yobbo brain,
but still try to understand what it is about. You never know, miracles can always happen.

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Reply #622 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 12:42pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 11:52am:

athos wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 11:14am:

Russia and China are trying to save the world from Anglo-Khazarian globalist banksters fascism.

There, poppets, speaks the voice of true insanity.... is this a precursor propaganda campaign to justify invading peaceful Kazakhstan or something? You reckon any form of capitalism is worse that Russia's gangster capitalism?

Certainly the current neoliberal monetarist economic orthodoxy is responsible for entrenching poverty in the world.

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Ukraine is not Russia's backyard any more than the South China Sea is China's backyard... if that kind of claim were valid, the United States could claim from their west coast all the way to Guam as their own backyard...

Hang on there: I haven't looked at the map... but I suspect the limit of the SCS is closer to China than Guam is to the US.

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Reply #623 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 12:46pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 12:23pm:

Clowns to the left of me - jokers to the right...

An act of aggression that is left unchallenged will lead to further acts of aggression. There are significant Russian minorities in Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Finland and so forth - they will soon start 'pleading' for help from the persecution of the governments there and Uncle Vlad will be forced to act.... triggering WW III.

The man is a psychopath...

Should have been prevented by diplomacy.

For example, abolish NATO, it's a relic of the Cold War.

Putin has already said he would leave Ukraine alone if the threat from NATO is removed.

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Reply #624 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 1:11pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 11:52am:

athos wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 11:14am:

Russia and China are trying to save the world from Anglo-Khazarian globalist banksters fascism.

There, poppets, speaks the voice of true insanity.... is this a precursor propaganda campaign to justify invading peaceful Kazakhstan or something? You reckon any form of capitalism is worse that Russia's gangster capitalism?

Ukraine is not Russia's backyard any more than the South China Sea is China's backyard... if that kind of claim were valid, the United States could claim from their west coast all the way to Guam as their own backyard...

Yes, you are right, this is the "South China Sea" and not the "South American Sea" and in Taiwan live 97% Han Chinese not without reason, so they can only be a Chinese backyard. Uneducated moron Go back to primary school and study geography again.
In Ukraine live Russians, not aggressive Anglo reptiles. Ukraine is not and will never be Anglobrotherhood's, but only a Russian backyard. Ignorant idiots" Украина" in Russian means literally backyard ('borderland', 'frontier region' of Russia).
Try to suppress your sick Anglo-colonial ambitions before you start thinking logically. If you were born as a mentally disabled without common sense, then try to learn mathematical logic or Aristotelian's syllogism.

"Ignorance and arrogance are twins who like to be together"
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Reply #625 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 1:21pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 12:37pm:

capitosinora wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 11:09am:

There’s something that MUST be said: America has a price we’re not willing to pay in return for Ukraine’s freedom. We’re not willing to risk U.S. troops or to start a nuclear war. It doesn’t mean we’re not compassionate but sadly we cannot save them.

Another "great" interview; he says the US can't help Ukraine much more (without risking nuclear war) because extended sanctions against Russia and Iran will collapse the US economy, because oil will go to $150/pb and stay there (hence US negotiations with Iran over oil; but who is worse, Putin or the Ayatollah?)

Solution: maximize N. American oil ASAP (inc. Canadian oil sands and US fracking....

I love it; you deluded "freedom" ideologues, including that clown Zelensky who is demanding his own countrymen die for "freedom", are all stuffed, especially if an AGW emergency is real....

Anyone for an ICJ dedicated to upholding the principles of the UN UDHR (life, prosperity and security) backed by a UNSC minus veto?

Or do you prefer to be "free" to die in nationalist fervor, as war and the impending climate collapse (with business as usual) result in extinction of the species.

That's the outcome of your "freedom" delusion.

That is exactly my argument all the time. It's like jumping into the water to save a drowning man when you can't swim. Unfortunately America is over. Many cannot understand that the end of Trump was the end of America.

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Reply #626 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 1:33pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 1:02am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 10:11pm:

athos wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 4:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:57pm:

athos wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:23pm:

Chechnya leader Ramzan Kadyrov promised $500 000 for "Ukrainian nationalists commanders heads"

Chechnya leader Ramzan Kadyrov promised a 500 000 $ reward for the chairman`s head of every Ukrainian nationalists commander.
That statement Kadyrov made in his telegram channel.

“A reward is being announced for the heads of the Ukrainian nationalists commander: Bandera, Azov, Dudayev’s battalion of shaitans (devils). I say this not as an official, but as a volunteer on behalf of Russian patriots, the same volunteers who have financial capabilities and have expressed a desire to pay 500 000 dollars for the head of each commander," he said.
Cheesy

I say, Athos, you still haven't said why we should support Putin. What is it, exactly?
Is it his charisma? His charm?
Please explain?

You don't have to support anyone. Just try to be reasonably objective and not be so ignorant.

I see, so let's get this straight.

Do you support the Russian invasion of the Ukraine?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

That's a very Brian Peccary phrase ya got there, Pilgrim...... you won;t get a yes or no from that schill... so called because someone would pay them a schilling to get in a crowd and make out the wonder elixir cured their broken back and wall to wall lung cancer... buy Dr Vlad's Miracle Cure-All Elixir... one country will get you a bottle guaranteed to cure rigor mortis and dandruff.... for a second country you get a whole case....

I think you'll find it's a very FD phrase, dear.

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Reply #627 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 1:33pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 12:42pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 11:52am:

athos wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 11:14am:

Russia and China are trying to save the world from Anglo-Khazarian globalist banksters fascism.

There, poppets, speaks the voice of true insanity.... is this a precursor propaganda campaign to justify invading peaceful Kazakhstan or something? You reckon any form of capitalism is worse that Russia's gangster capitalism?

Certainly the current neoliberal monetarist economic orthodoxy is responsible for entrenching poverty in the world.

Quote:

Ukraine is not Russia's backyard any more than the South China Sea is China's backyard... if that kind of claim were valid, the United States could claim from their west coast all the way to Guam as their own backyard...

Hang on there: I haven't looked at the map... but I suspect the limit of the SCS is closer to China than Guam is to the US.

Unfortunately, the idea of Anglo-Saxon exceptionalism (superiority) creates madness in the minds of many, preventing them from thinking in accordance with common sense.
Cheesy

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Reply #628 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 1:34pm

athos wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 11:14am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 10:11pm:

athos wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 4:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:57pm:

athos wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:23pm:

Chechnya leader Ramzan Kadyrov promised $500 000 for "Ukrainian nationalists commanders heads"

Chechnya leader Ramzan Kadyrov promised a 500 000 $ reward for the chairman`s head of every Ukrainian nationalists commander.
That statement Kadyrov made in his telegram channel.

“A reward is being announced for the heads of the Ukrainian nationalists commander: Bandera, Azov, Dudayev’s battalion of shaitans (devils). I say this not as an official, but as a volunteer on behalf of Russian patriots, the same volunteers who have financial capabilities and have expressed a desire to pay 500 000 dollars for the head of each commander," he said.
Cheesy

I say, Athos, you still haven't said why we should support Putin. What is it, exactly?
Is it his charisma? His charm?
Please explain?

You don't have to support anyone. Just try to be reasonably objective and not be so ignorant.

I see, so let's get this straight.

Do you support the Russian invasion of the Ukraine?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Russia and China are trying to save the world from Anglo-Khazarian globalist banksters fascism.

The Ukraine is led by a Russian-speaking Jew, dear.

But I'm curious. Why have you mentioned China?

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Reply #629 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 1:37pm

athos wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 12:42pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 10:11pm:

athos wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 4:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:57pm:

athos wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 3:23pm:

Chechnya leader Ramzan Kadyrov promised $500 000 for "Ukrainian nationalists commanders heads"

Chechnya leader Ramzan Kadyrov promised a 500 000 $ reward for the chairman`s head of every Ukrainian nationalists commander.
That statement Kadyrov made in his telegram channel.

“A reward is being announced for the heads of the Ukrainian nationalists commander: Bandera, Azov, Dudayev’s battalion of shaitans (devils). I say this not as an official, but as a volunteer on behalf of Russian patriots, the same volunteers who have financial capabilities and have expressed a desire to pay 500 000 dollars for the head of each commander," he said.
Cheesy

I say, Athos, you still haven't said why we should support Putin. What is it, exactly?
Is it his charisma? His charm?
Please explain?

You don't have to support anyone. Just try to be reasonably objective and not be so ignorant.

I see, so let's get this straight.

Do you support the Russian invasion of the Ukraine?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

I see, so let's get this straight.

Do you want to be The Grand Inquisitor?
Do you want to be a like him***?
Simply yes or no.

No, dear. Do you want to express yourself?

Here's your opportunity. Why do you support the invasion of a sovereign country?

You still haven't said

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