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Reply #645 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:35pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:33pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:17pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:11pm:

Maybe, but Athos is a fellow poster here. He has his own thoughts.

Bots don't have their own thoughts. They're AI. Try a Turing test on him. Write in another language (that's easily translatable) or write phonetically. See what happens.

Athos is not a bot, see post #621, a brilliant examination of 'freedom' by the Chief Inquisitor...

And likely repeated word for word on other sites as taken from a database of possible responses.

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Reply #646 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:38pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:18pm:

Great, you've missed the news, dear. Russia has invaded the Ukraine. Putin's not talking to anybody, he's going for the capital.

So again, I'm curious. Athos appears to support this invasion in the interest of another country's geopolitical moves.

You?

'Athos' is programmed to post scripts about Anglos this and that in the only English its developers can handle and post RT youtube clips.

Did you see #621? It's brilliant, and not RT.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #648 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:40pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:38pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:18pm:

Great, you've missed the news, dear. Russia has invaded the Ukraine. Putin's not talking to anybody, he's going for the capital.

So again, I'm curious. Athos appears to support this invasion in the interest of another country's geopolitical moves.

You?

'Athos' is programmed to post scripts about Anglos this and that in the only English its developers can handle and post RT youtube clips.

Did you see #621? It's brilliant, and not RT.

So you're saying the data information providers provide links beyond just RT? Not exactly high-tech.

Do you think the movie 'The Grand Inquisitor' is new to us?

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #649 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:40pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:15pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:11pm:

Yet the Russians living in Ukraine call it liberation.

Something for you to remember when thinking about Tibet, Xinjiang (East Turkestan) and inner Mongolia.

Ah - good point, Meister.

What do you think about the people of Taiwan, Great? Would you support a US invasion to liberate them from the Taiwanese government?

Would you ask them to compromise while they were being bombed and promise not to seek help from East Asia?

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #650 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:43pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:40pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:15pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:11pm:

Yet the Russians living in Ukraine call it liberation.

Something for you to remember when thinking about Tibet, Xinjiang (East Turkestan) and inner Mongolia.

Ah - good point, Meister.

What do you think about the people of Taiwan, Great? Would you support a US invasion to liberate them from the Taiwanese government?

Would you ask them to compromise while they were being bombed and promise not to seek help from East Asia?

I would support a US and its allies assisting with Taiwan's defense. The world's democracies' troops on the ground in Taiwan.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #651 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:44pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:29pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:15pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:11pm:

Yet the Russians living in Ukraine call it liberation.

Something for you to remember when thinking about Tibet, Xinjiang (East Turkestan) and inner Mongolia.

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These are already autonomous regions of China, with freedom of culture, language and religion (but not freedom to secede).

That's not what the Tibetans, Uighurs or inner Mongolians say.

Many are satisfied with the autonomy arrangements, understanding the considerable benefits for their regions' development.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #652 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:45pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:29pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:15pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:11pm:

Yet the Russians living in Ukraine call it liberation.

Something for you to remember when thinking about Tibet, Xinjiang (East Turkestan) and inner Mongolia.

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These are already autonomous regions of China, with freedom of culture, language and religion (but not freedom to secede).

That's not what the Tibetans, Uighurs or inner Mongolians say.

Many are satisfied with the autonomy arrangements, understanding the considerable benefits for their regions' development.

'Many' eh?

How many?

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #653 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:47pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:40pm:

[quote author=AusbetterWorld link=1644405253/646#646 date=1646455104]
So you're saying the data information providers provide links beyond just RT? Not exactly high-tech.

Do you think the movie 'The Grand Inquisitor' is new to us?

Whatever, Athos is not a bot, that proposition is as absurd as Lisa's multi-ID theory.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #654 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:49pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:43pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:40pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:15pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:11pm:

Yet the Russians living in Ukraine call it liberation.

Something for you to remember when thinking about Tibet, Xinjiang (East Turkestan) and inner Mongolia.

Ah - good point, Meister.

What do you think about the people of Taiwan, Great? Would you support a US invasion to liberate them from the Taiwanese government?

Would you ask them to compromise while they were being bombed and promise not to seek help from East Asia?

I would support a US and its allies assisting with Taiwan's defense. The world's democracies' troops on the ground in Taiwan.

I wonder if Great would feel the same way. It is, after all, his argument on the Ukraine.

If a minority of Russians in a country are entitled to have Russia invade to put them in power, a handful of pro-American Taiwanners are entitled to the same.

But I'm curious. Why do all these people need foreign invasions to seize power? Why can't they use the ballot box like everybody else?

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #655 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:51pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:47pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:40pm:

[quote author=AusbetterWorld link=1644405253/646#646 date=1646455104]
So you're saying the data information providers provide links beyond just RT? Not exactly high-tech.

Do you think the movie 'The Grand Inquisitor' is new to us?

Whatever, Athos is not a bot, that proposition is as absurd as Lisa's multi-ID theory.

The multi-id theory is an unprovable rant.

'Athos' has stock answers and posts. It's easy to demonstrate. But I will admit that the few human wumao / little pinks on this site are definitely pig-ignorant. My guess is that they're rural Chinese or migrant workers who make a yuan or two on the side posting in a click farm.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #656 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:52pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:29pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:15pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:11pm:

Yet the Russians living in Ukraine call it liberation.

Something for you to remember when thinking about Tibet, Xinjiang (East Turkestan) and inner Mongolia.

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These are already autonomous regions of China, with freedom of culture, language and religion (but not freedom to secede).

That's not what the Tibetans, Uighurs or inner Mongolians say.

Many are satisfied with the autonomy arrangements, understanding the considerable benefits for their regions' development.

You said something similar about Russian Ukrainians, Great. I think I'm beginning to see a paralel, dear.

Are you arguing Russia's case on behalf of China?

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #657 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:53pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:47pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:40pm:

[quote author=AusbetterWorld link=1644405253/646#646 date=1646455104]
So you're saying the data information providers provide links beyond just RT? Not exactly high-tech.

Do you think the movie 'The Grand Inquisitor' is new to us?

Whatever, Athos is not a bot, that proposition is as absurd as Lisa's multi-ID theory.

Give it a rest Greggary/Bwian/etc.

No one cares about you or your silly multi ids which make YOU look stupid and bored shitless with your pathetic existence. We have real lives. You don't. That's why we don't give a shyte!

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #658 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 3:00pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:45pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:29pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:15pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:11pm:

Yet the Russians living in Ukraine call it liberation.

Something for you to remember when thinking about Tibet, Xinjiang (East Turkestan) and inner Mongolia.

.

These are already autonomous regions of China, with freedom of culture, language and religion (but not freedom to secede).

That's not what the Tibetans, Uighurs or inner Mongolians say.

Many are satisfied with the autonomy arrangements, understanding the considerable benefits for their regions' development.

'Many' eh?

How many?

Oh, you know, all the ones who aren't in re-education camps or monitored by police security cameras, presumably.

You know, the ones who are happy not speaking in Tibetan, Uighur or Mongol, happy not having any Tibetan, Uighur or Mongol representatives in the local administration and try their hardest to speak and look Han Chinese and live out their lives in relative poverty.

You?

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #659 - Mar 5^th, 2022 at 3:02pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:40pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:15pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 2:11pm:

Yet the Russians living in Ukraine call it liberation.

Something for you to remember when thinking about Tibet, Xinjiang (East Turkestan) and inner Mongolia.

Ah - good point, Meister.

What do you think about the people of Taiwan, Great? Would you support a US invasion to liberate them from the Taiwanese government?

Would you ask them to compromise while they were being bombed and promise not to seek help from East Asia?

Already answered. Many in China's autonomous regions accept the development and infrastructure benefits flowing from Chinese sovereignty.

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What do you think about the people of Taiwan, Great?

I think they are ideological losers determined to hold onto an outmoded "freedom' delusion.

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Would you support a US invasion to liberate them from the Taiwanese government?

??? The US and the Taiwanese government (DPP) share the same delusional "freedom" ideology.

Whereas the other main party in Taiwan, the KMT still believe in One China.

And within a decade China will be powerful enough to liberate the Taiwanese in a manner consistent with the ancient Chinese tenet: " the best way to win a war is without firing a shot".

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