Karnal wrote on Mar 6^th, 2022 at 12:50pm:


... for example, Taiwan, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Tibet, parts of India, and the Spratlys out towards The Philippines and so forth.... all Chinese allies there................

Karnal wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 6:35pm:

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There you go again, falsely accusing me of wanting the age-old might is right solution. Another instance of  your delusional "freedom" ideology ( and its insistence on "national sovereignty" ) which a priori rules out an international rules based system....   

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hence the need for an ICJ dedicated to upholding the UN UDHR, backed by  UNSC without veto. ANY  battlefield in the age of MAD is an insane failure of diplomacy (caused by your "sovereign freedom" delusions) 

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Every nation, like every individual, has its own point of view, that's the nature of the beast. 

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No, this shows you can't recognize your sovereign freedom delusion.

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It's not a matter of telling fibs: rather, you have to  understand the 'human psychosis', including the insane proposition you have to die to be free (like both Russians and Ukrainians are doing at present). 

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Irrelevant to all of the above. 

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A world without poverty and war is not propaganda, it's a requirement for the sustainable progress of human civilization, and possibly even the survival of the species, if the climate emergency is real.   

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I think a have already made that point, above.

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Like I said, I wrote to the CCP; I'm hoping their Marxist roots will bring them on board  with an international rules based system, especially when they are the most powerful nation in the world; in contrast to hopeless, deluded "sovereign freedom" ideologues who want the "freedom" to die for their "freedom". (The  current war has already cost many lives on both sides - though we are not told the numbers yet -  and the outcome of the war remains to be seen). 

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Unfortunately, you are no doubt correct. Doc Evatt's vision  has certainly been repudiated by the ALP, and the Right's motto is of course 'freedom or death'....since the Right always insist on grabbing the resources needed to serve their own self-interests.

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People in Oz are content to hide behind imperialist/hegemonic Uncle's nuclear shield.

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Refuted above. 

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I'm for life, not death.

You are content, since your children have not died, and are not likely to die,  unlike the children already uselessly slaughtered in Ukraine.....for their "freedom" ....MAD.....

 

So all workers should unite in equal low pay and conditions?  Is that it?

We can do that by adhering to the mythical global economy... that mirage that keeps drifting further way or vanishing into thin air when the tax man comes calling ... that pot of gold at the end of the rainbow that always stays just ahead of the pursuer whenever that pursuer begins to get close...

One day all will be equal... equally poor and struggling while the SAE live like kings in their Offshore palaces... rather than bomb Pearl Harbour, perhaps there is a need to bomb Taxenhaven.....

Abandon globalisation, the global economy, internationalism, and privatisation..... even Ireland has betrayed the principles of Sinn Fein... Stand Together Alone .. to become just another cog in the 'global economy' in return for thirty pieces of silver....

Karnal wrote on Mar 6^th, 2022 at 1:46pm:


Already answered in post#717.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 6^th, 2022 at 2:03pm:


Of course not, an ILO will designate above poverty wages and good conditions in ALL nations, after the imperialist wars (whether US-led, or otherwise) have finally been outlawed by a reformed UN.

Note: there is no shortage of resources  which would prevent such an outcome, only plenty of self-interest (especially among greedy private financiers currently gifted with the sole right to lend money) which stands in the way.   

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Addressed and explained above, you are deluded by the current system based on greedy private financiers who prevent currency-issuing governments from spending their own money without taxing or borrowing.

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Solution shown above: grant currency-issuing governments - at a minimum -  the right to ensure ILO approved above-poverty wages for all.

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It's the nature of 'globalization' which must be reformed as, outlined above. Globalization depending on its manifestation has benefits, we don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.   

All nations ought to be growing their own food, as much as possible,  and have at least some basic manufacturing for necessities.

China might yet save the world, when its Marxist roots will promote the economic development of all countries unlike the greedy, survival of the fittest, Western economies. 

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 6^th, 2022 at 1:55pm:
 

Will the international community make better music when all are playing, without fighting?

(Just to carry the analogy, for another page turner)

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 6^th, 2022 at 2:10pm:


Don't want to say, eh?

No worries. How about I join the ALP and post on Chinese political sites, spruiking the benefits of vetocracy?

Oh. They'll ban me. Too bad, too sad, no?

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 6^th, 2022 at 2:36pm:


Great, I hate to break it to you, dear. Socialism with Chinese characteristics does not mean Marxism.

No more pesky letters to the Central Committee, okay? They'll send you for re-education.

But I'm curious - where are you posting from? If you said these things in China, you'd be in big trouble.