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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #750 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 2:16pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 1:10pm:

Watch out for that admission!

The wumao and little pinks have been instructed to take another tack.

What's that got to do with a debate about governance, national sovereignty, and "legal war"?

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Since the CCP, as usual, has backed the wrong horse in the race, it's tack is, not to be seen to be siding with Putin, but promote itself as the only 'government' that can save the day.

That's your narrative; China wants good relations with Russia, Ukraine and EU. (NATO should be disbanded).

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It's the CCP's subtle pivot to trying to extricate itself from aiding and abetting Putin in the first place.

The CCP knew moths before that Russia was going to invade. Did the CCP actively try to stop Putin? Of course not. They, like Putin, though Putin would win within a day or two. [/quote]

And meanwhile it is still amazing to see Blinken telling Zelensky he can't have a no-fly zone over Ukraine, and Ukrainians must fight and die in their own country for their "freedom".

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #751 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 2:22pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 1:53pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 12:37pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 12:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 6^th, 2022 at 3:11pm:

Great, I hate to break it to you, dear. Socialism with Chinese characteristics does not mean Marxism.

I hate to break it to you, you are not entitled to define Marxism as YOU see fit.

Why not?

The Marxist concepts which the CCP draws on for inspiration are defined by the CCP, not you.

Very well said.

China represent concept of Meritocracy, equal opportunity and mutual respect.

Anglo Khazarian barbarians and their banksters represent Exceptionalism, arrogance and imposed colonial slavery.

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11876 Gender:	Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine Reply #752 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 2:49pm athos wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 2:16pm: Australian puppets should read this: "To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal." Henry Kissinger: Kannen Sie Englisch lesen?
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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11876 Gender:	Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine Reply #753 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 2:51pm Karnal wrote on Mar 6^th, 2022 at 3:11pm: Socialism with Chinese characteristics does not mean Marxism. It doesn't even mean socialism; it's oligarchic kleptocracy.
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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #754 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 2:51pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 12:37pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 11:40am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 6^th, 2022 at 2:49pm:

Don't want to say, eh?

It's irrelevant.
Meanwhile I have answered all your questions, which you have yet to debate....no doubt, are unable to deabte, hence your silly divergence into irrelevancies.

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No worries. How about I join the ALP and post on Chinese political sites, spruiking the benefits of vetocracy?

Oh. They'll ban me. Too bad, too sad, no?

I'm offering you the chance to spruik the "benefits" of your adversarial multiparty vetocacries here, and you are unable to do so.

As for the CCP, they are quite content to let you practice your losing system of government, based on a delusional "freedom" ideology.

It's the triumphalist, exceptionalist West which wants to enforce its system responsible for the chronic, evasive, and generational poverty in the West, onto China. They aren't buying.

Get your own house in order. Can you eradicate the aboriginal gap, and eradicate poverty among Oz kids in the next five years?

Why would I spruik the benefits of democracy? The Ukraine is a sovereign country. The Ukraine elected Zalensky. UN observers endorsed the result.

Not so in Russia, but we recognise the Russian government too. Russia is a sovereign country. Russians elected Putin, but only because he killed or banned all opponents from running.

China has Xi. 90% of Chinese support that (apparently). No one wants to invade China. We respect the sovereignty.

We're not discussing Aboriginal poverty. Would you like to start a thread on it? We can compare Aboriginal poverty with the Tibetans or Uighurs if you like.

After Nazi organised coup d'état in 2014 Ukraine became AngloKhazarian colony without oportunity to have legitimate democratic elections. Therefore Ukrainian Denazification and DeAnglonization is urgently needed.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #755 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 3:02pm

athos wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 2:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 12:37pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 11:40am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 6^th, 2022 at 2:49pm:

Don't want to say, eh?

It's irrelevant.
Meanwhile I have answered all your questions, which you have yet to debate....no doubt, are unable to deabte, hence your silly divergence into irrelevancies.

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No worries. How about I join the ALP and post on Chinese political sites, spruiking the benefits of vetocracy?

Oh. They'll ban me. Too bad, too sad, no?

I'm offering you the chance to spruik the "benefits" of your adversarial multiparty vetocacries here, and you are unable to do so.

As for the CCP, they are quite content to let you practice your losing system of government, based on a delusional "freedom" ideology.

It's the triumphalist, exceptionalist West which wants to enforce its system responsible for the chronic, evasive, and generational poverty in the West, onto China. They aren't buying.

Get your own house in order. Can you eradicate the aboriginal gap, and eradicate poverty among Oz kids in the next five years?

Why would I spruik the benefits of democracy? The Ukraine is a sovereign country. The Ukraine elected Zalensky. UN observers endorsed the result.

Not so in Russia, but we recognise the Russian government too. Russia is a sovereign country. Russians elected Putin, but only because he killed or banned all opponents from running.

China has Xi. 90% of Chinese support that (apparently). No one wants to invade China. We respect the sovereignty.

We're not discussing Aboriginal poverty. Would you like to start a thread on it? We can compare Aboriginal poverty with the Tibetans or Uighurs if you like.

After Nazi organised coup d'état in 2014 Ukraine became AngloKhazarian colony without oportunity to have legitimate democratic elections. Therefore Ukrainian Denazification and DeAnglonization is urgently needed.

I agree.

Let me help Russia please.

I am good cook. I have plenty experience in kitchen and cooking.

I want cook for the Putin. Help me get job to be number 1 cook for him. Ok? Good. I wait for you to help me get into the Putin kitchen. I wait for you to tell me how I get this job. Keep this secret ok?

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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6396 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine Reply #756 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 3:29pm The Rothschild family seems to be unhappy with Putin https://www.bitchute.com/video/L4lkGHsby61O/
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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #757 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 3:30pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 1:53pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 12:37pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 12:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 6^th, 2022 at 3:11pm:

Great, I hate to break it to you, dear. Socialism with Chinese characteristics does not mean Marxism.

I hate to break it to you, you are not entitled to define Marxism as YOU see fit.

Why not?

The Marxist concepts which the CCP draws on for inspiration are defined by the CCP, not you.

Aha! He said it!

90% applies to the rest of the world too, eh?

Good to see you finally come clean, Great. Only the CCP define Marxism-Leninism.

Does this include you?

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #758 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 3:33pm

athos wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 2:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 12:37pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 11:40am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 6^th, 2022 at 2:49pm:

Don't want to say, eh?

It's irrelevant.
Meanwhile I have answered all your questions, which you have yet to debate....no doubt, are unable to deabte, hence your silly divergence into irrelevancies.

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No worries. How about I join the ALP and post on Chinese political sites, spruiking the benefits of vetocracy?

Oh. They'll ban me. Too bad, too sad, no?

I'm offering you the chance to spruik the "benefits" of your adversarial multiparty vetocacries here, and you are unable to do so.

As for the CCP, they are quite content to let you practice your losing system of government, based on a delusional "freedom" ideology.

It's the triumphalist, exceptionalist West which wants to enforce its system responsible for the chronic, evasive, and generational poverty in the West, onto China. They aren't buying.

Get your own house in order. Can you eradicate the aboriginal gap, and eradicate poverty among Oz kids in the next five years?

Why would I spruik the benefits of democracy? The Ukraine is a sovereign country. The Ukraine elected Zalensky. UN observers endorsed the result.

Not so in Russia, but we recognise the Russian government too. Russia is a sovereign country. Russians elected Putin, but only because he killed or banned all opponents from running.

China has Xi. 90% of Chinese support that (apparently). No one wants to invade China. We respect the sovereignty.

We're not discussing Aboriginal poverty. Would you like to start a thread on it? We can compare Aboriginal poverty with the Tibetans or Uighurs if you like.

After Nazi organised coup d'état in 2014 Ukraine became AngloKhazarian colony without oportunity to have legitimate democratic elections. Therefore Ukrainian Denazification and DeAnglonization is urgently needed.

Oh? Great believes in the UN, Athos.

Or maybe he's just saying that. Hard to tell, no?

Xi could change policy tomorrow.

You?

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #759 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 3:33pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 1:53pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 12:37pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 12:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 6^th, 2022 at 3:11pm:

Great, I hate to break it to you, dear. Socialism with Chinese characteristics does not mean Marxism.

I hate to break it to you, you are not entitled to define Marxism as YOU see fit.

Why not?

The Marxist concepts which the CCP draws on for inspiration are defined by the CCP, not you.

This is a debate where a well-versed educated scholar ERIC LI explaining China's perspectives and achievements.
Eric Li is right, the Western countries should reform their own institutions to compete with China instead of wasting their energy
and resources on trying to contain China.

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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6396 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine Reply #760 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 3:35pm A roundtable of western scholars couldn't even hold a candle next to Eric Li, and English is his 2nd language. Eric Li is absolutely awesome! He successfully exposes the hypocrisy of these western clowns.
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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6396 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine Reply #761 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 3:47pm War in Ukraine: Poland denies US media reports of warplane deliveries Poland has denied US media reports that the country wants to equip Ukraine with Soviet-designed fighter jets. Poland will not send its fighter jets to Ukraine and will not allow Ukraine to use its airports, a government spokeswoman said in Warsaw.
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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #762 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 3:47pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 3:30pm:

Good to see you finally come clean

No wumao or little pink 'comes clean'.

What the Chinese (who remain within China) cannot know is that, in the west, our political awakening occurs in our mid teens, such that by our mid 20s we have a sophistication about partaking in the political process that the Chinese generally will go to their graves not achieving.

This political maturity is evident in the Taiwanese and formerly the people of Hong Kong, so it's not an ethnic thing, it's the upshot of the human freedom to think and to express political thought, that results in political sophistication.

That is why the wumao / little pinks are unaware of how laughable they are to western and Taiwanese audiences.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #763 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 4:39pm

athos wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 3:33pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 1:53pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 12:37pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 12:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 6^th, 2022 at 3:11pm:

Great, I hate to break it to you, dear. Socialism with Chinese characteristics does not mean Marxism.

I hate to break it to you, you are not entitled to define Marxism as YOU see fit.

Why not?

The Marxist concepts which the CCP draws on for inspiration are defined by the CCP, not you.

This is a debate where a well-versed educated scholar ERIC LI explaining China's perspectives and achievements.
Eric Li is right, the Western countries should reform their own institutions to compete with China instead of wasting their energy
and resources on trying to contain China.

Brilliant debate, the deluded 'sovereign individual'/individual "freedom" ideologues were outclassed by Eric Li.

Thanks.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #764 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 4:46pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 3:47pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 3:30pm:

Good to see you finally come clean

No wumao or little pink 'comes clean'.

What the Chinese (who remain within China) cannot know is that, in the west, our political awakening occurs in our mid teens, such that by our mid 20s we have a sophistication about partaking in the political process that the Chinese generally will go to their graves not achieving.

This political maturity is evident in the Taiwanese and formerly the people of Hong Kong, so it's not an ethnic thing, it's the upshot of the human freedom to think and to express political thought, that results in political sophistication.

That is why the wumao / little pinks are unaware of how laughable they are to western and Taiwanese audiences.

That's why, when the call comes from our Taiwanese friends, the democratic world will hear the call.

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