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Reply #765 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 4:54pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 3:30pm:

Aha! He said it!

90% applies to the rest of the world too, eh?

It's always painful debating deluded Western "individual freedom" ideologues, but never give up....

The CCP takes its inspiration from Marxism. You said the CCP doesn't practice Marxism.

I said YOU are not entitled to say whether the CCP considers it is practicing Marxism or not.

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Good to see you finally come clean, Great. Only the CCP define Marxism-Leninism.

No, ANYONE can define Marxism-Leninism as a basis for achieving good governance, as he sees fit, because both Marx and Lenin are historical figures who confronted vastly different circumstances to those in our modern world.

Meanwhile you of course want to define Marxism in negative terms and reject it completely, as if aspects of Marxism cannot be adapted to changing circumstances in the modern world.

A Conservative mind will of course have difficulties with the concept of "changing circumstances".

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Does this include you?

fyi, Marx and Christ (the man, not the mythical god) are two of my heroes, but that shouldn't be of concern in this debate.

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Reply #766 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 4:59pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 3:47pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 3:30pm:

Good to see you finally come clean

No wumao or little pink 'comes clean'.

What the Chinese (who remain within China) cannot know is that, in the west, our political awakening occurs in our mid teens, such that by our mid 20s we have a sophistication about partaking in the political process that the Chinese generally will go to their graves not achieving.

This political maturity is evident in the Taiwanese and formerly the people of Hong Kong, so it's not an ethnic thing, it's the upshot of the human freedom to think and to express political thought, that results in political sophistication.

That is why the wumao / little pinks are unaware of how laughable they are to western and Taiwanese audiences.

True but that doesn’t help when the fools are armed with hypersonic nuclear weapons
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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11869 Gender:	Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine Reply #767 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:00pm Outside China, wumaos and little pinks are, what we would call, political zombies.
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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #768 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:16pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 3:47pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 3:30pm:

Good to see you finally come clean

No wumao or little pink 'comes clean'.

You are incapable/not qualified to talk about "comes clean".

Your 'national sovereignty', "legal war" delusion turns you into the devil incarnate.

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What the Chinese (who remain within China) cannot know is that, in the west, our political awakening occurs in our mid teens, such that by our mid 20s we have a sophistication about partaking in the political process that the Chinese generally will go to their graves not achieving.

Things are changing fast.

Look at the Eric Li videos; he was brought up in China and yet is now completely aware of what is happening in both the 'liberal' democracies, and 'illiberal' China, and is confident that the CCP - recognizing its legitimacy depends on outcomes - will prosper along- side the complacent Liberal democracies who are content to rest their legitimacy on the fact of their 'liberality'.

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This political maturity

..."maturity" marked by insane, divisive political hyperpartisanship

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is evident in the Taiwanese and formerly the people of Hong Kong, so it's not an ethnic thing, it's the upshot of the human freedom to think and to express political thought, that results in political sophistication.

No; the evolution of unthinking individualism represents the adolescenct phase in the development of well-ordered communities , whereas attainment of common prosperity represents adulthood.

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That is why the wumao / little pinks are unaware of how laughable they are to western and Taiwanese audiences.

Unfortunately for you, the people on the mainland are learning about the delusions of Western "individualism".

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12472 Gender:	Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine Reply #769 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:19pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 4:46pm: That's why, when the call comes from our Taiwanese friends, the democratic world will hear the call. Nonsense. Biden won't even put boots on the ground to defend Ukraine now. Nor will the US in a decade, when the instant loss of NY and LA will be on the cards.
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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6396 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine Reply #770 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:19pm Who are Ukrainian Nazis?
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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6396 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine Reply #771 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:25pm Breaking news: Ukrainian militant Nazi racists are holding Chinese citizens hostage.
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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #772 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:26pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:19pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 4:46pm:

That's why, when the call comes from our Taiwanese friends, the democratic world will hear the call.

Nonsense. Biden won't even put boots on the ground to defend Ukraine now.

Nor will the US in a decade, when the instant loss of NY and LA will be on the cards.

Patience little wumao. You don't comprehend our resolve.
It's not that we can't be brutal in our defence, it's just that we need the resolve of the true will of the people.

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12472 Gender:	Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine Reply #773 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:27pm Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 4:59pm: True but that doesn’t help when the fools are armed with hypersonic nuclear weapons[/font][/size][/b]. I assume you understand there are sufficient fools on all sides who are armed with nukes.....but perhaps I shouldn't assume that....
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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #774 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:33pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:27pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 4:59pm:

True but that doesn’t help when the fools are armed with hypersonic nuclear weapons[/font][/size][/b].

I assume you understand there are sufficient fools on all sides who are armed with nukes.....but perhaps I shouldn't assume that....

Confidence with power is hiding that you have a hammer in your hand.

If you have to show everyone you have a hammer in your hand, then you have no right to a hammer - you're not confident in using it.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #775 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:36pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:00pm:

Outside China, wumaos and little pinks are, what we would call, political zombies.

Says the deluded, national sovereignty "legal war" ideologue...'legal war' in the age of MAD, no less, proving you are insane...and even without resort to nukes, your complacency with the ongoing slaughter of children in conventional wars condemns you.

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12472 Gender:	Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine Reply #776 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:37pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:00pm: Outside China, wumaos and little pinks are, what we would call, political zombies. (turn page) and again...
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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #777 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:39pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:36pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:00pm:

Outside China, wumaos and little pinks are, what we would call, political zombies.

Says the deluded, national sovereignty "legal war" ideologue...'legal war' in the age of MAD, no less, proving you are insane...and even without resort to nukes, your complacency with the ongoing necessary slaughter of children in conventional wars condemns you.

Same old stuff with you. Why not apply for a new supervisor?

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #778 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:42pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:26pm:

Patience little wumao. You don't comprehend our resolve.
It's not that we can't be brutal in our defence, it's just that we need the resolve of the true will of the people.

I understand your delusional "freedom" ideology and its associated death wish well enough: the "freedom" to die for "freedom".

Your wish may well be granted one day, just as with those who are dying in Ukraine today ....for "freedom".

Insane.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #779 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:46pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:33pm:

Confidence with power is hiding that you have a hammer in your hand.

"confidence" has nothing to do with 'might is right'.

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If you have to show everyone you have a hammer in your hand, then you have no right to a hammer - you're not confident in using it.

you are reduced to meaningless metaphors, as if a "right" to power has anything to do with "confidence".

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